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DADT Repeal & DREAM Act Get Their Day In The Senate Today (Limited Debate & Cloture Live Thread)
tpm ^ | December 18, 2010, 8:44AM | Evan McMorris-Santoro

Posted on 12/18/2010 7:35:51 AM PST by Red Steel

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To: OSHA; pulaskibush
FIRE PRYOR!

He was already a target and will be shown the same door Blanche Lincoln was. Trust me on this one!

241 posted on 12/18/2010 2:15:42 PM PST by southernsunshine
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To: dfwgator
And I expect the JAG ranks to become full of gays who will do everything to give homosexuals preferential treatment in the military.

Goes without saying. In the works right now.

242 posted on 12/18/2010 2:17:43 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: manc

Manc, IMO things will not stay this way. There will be repercussions, shakeups, and who knows what else.

Your boys may still have a chance to serve in an honorable US military.


243 posted on 12/18/2010 2:20:03 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: Longbow1969

For a short while.


244 posted on 12/18/2010 2:20:53 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: Red Steel

This is very dark.

I am afraid for our nation.

First Lakin’s kangaroo court, now this.

One of the laws of nature is the law of karma - what is sown, is reaped.

Bad days ahead.


245 posted on 12/18/2010 2:23:33 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: bacal
This was a done deal a while ago. I had to complete a sex offender form a few months ago. I live inbase housing.

Thank you for your service. Are you saying that a requisite to live in base housing is completion of sex offender forms?! Please, say it ain't so!

246 posted on 12/18/2010 2:25:08 PM PST by southernsunshine
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To: All
frag a fag

thank you congress,you anti american vermin

247 posted on 12/18/2010 2:29:22 PM PST by Charlespg
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To: little jeremiah

I hope so as my dream to see them on their final training parade has been taken away as has their futures of serving.

I despise the homosexual agenda and anyone who supports it along with those who say they’re conservative but have no problem due to them knowing a couple of them.


248 posted on 12/18/2010 2:34:09 PM PST by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: southernsunshine

23 Dems/Independents are up for election in 2012. I believe 14 are *beatable.

Dianne Feinstein of California
Tom Carper of Delaware
*Bill Nelson of Florida
Daniel Akaka of Hawaii
Ben Cardin of Maryland
*Debbie Stabenow of Michigan
*Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota
*Claire McCaskill of Missouri
*Jon Tester of Montana
*Ben Nelson of Nebraska
Bob Menendez of New Jersey
*Jeff Bingaman of New Mexico
Kirsten Gillibrand of New York
*Kent Conrad of North Dakota
*Sherrod Brown of Ohio
*Bob Casey, Jr. of Pennsylvania
Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island
*Jim Webb of Virginia
*Maria Cantwell of Washington
*Joe Manchin of West Virginia <—(Skipped out on DADT vote)
*Herb Kohl of Wisconsin
Joe Lieberman of Connecticut
Bernie Sanders of Vermont


249 posted on 12/18/2010 2:51:25 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: manc

It has to be changed. Cannot stay this way or on this track.


250 posted on 12/18/2010 3:16:55 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: roses of sharon

Fascinating glimpse of history there- thanks for taking the time to find and post it.

I’ve struggled with this issue for years- two members of my family (distant family, now deceased)were gay and I’ve several friends who are gay or lesbian. More decent, hardworking citizens you will not find, nor better friends.

I know there are plenty who are militant, in-your-face with their preferences but not the ones I’ve known. In discussing DADT with a couple of them they ALSO are very conflicted about it- they doubt the wisdom of repeal.

I have a deep belief in the equal rights of all citizens. On the one hand I understand how/why gay people feel like second-class citizens. I also know there are sound reasons why the morality of the issue has always played a powerful role in how various cultures and societies have viewed and treated gay people.

While it’s up to God to judge what’s in the heart of us all- I feel as though we lost something today that made us a stronger people. Something that says we don’t HAVE to give in to every impulse, every desire or every instinct in order to be true and real. Sometimes it’s best to keep the door closed. Best for everyone.


251 posted on 12/18/2010 3:37:54 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: bacal
This was a done deal a while ago. I had to complete a sex offender form a few months ago. I live inbase housing. (bacal post 240)

Thank you for your service. Are you saying that a requisite to live in base housing is completion of sex offender forms?! Please, say it ain't so! (SSS post 246)

I need to amend my post 246. It should read:

Thank you for your service. Are you saying that a requisite for NON-HOMOSEXUALS to live in base housing is completion of sex offeder forms?! Please, say it ain't so!

252 posted on 12/18/2010 3:51:02 PM PST by southernsunshine
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To: Red Steel
23 Dems/Independents are up for election in 2012. I believe 14 are *beatable.

Much obliged for the list:) It looks like I'd better rest up.....I've got alot of traveling ahead of me to make sure that all 14 are beaten! If I have to do it singlehandedly, I'm game! (Yes, I'm a tad worked up today.)

253 posted on 12/18/2010 3:54:15 PM PST by southernsunshine
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To: SE Mom
Sometimes it’s best to keep the door closed. Best for everyone.

Very well put. Your entire post.

The tragedy of this particular occasion is that morality had nothing to do with it. Nor did practicality.

It was all about politics. And nothing else.

254 posted on 12/18/2010 3:55:06 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: little jeremiah

USMJ
the marines good for them, look a here.

a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration , however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense.

(b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

YOU BET THEY CAN STILL BE CHARGED SO PISS OFF HOMOSEXUALS AND YOU MSM


255 posted on 12/18/2010 4:20:04 PM PST by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: Red Steel; All

I got a number of questions that may arise:

1. Will any unmarried gay serviceperson be able to demand military benefits [ie: healthcare] for their partner?

2. If so, could unmarried heterosexual servicepersons then claim the same for their partner?

3. If a gay serviceperson got married - say in Massachusetts, will the military have to honor it as a marriage?

4. If a unmarried gay serviceperson gets a PCS {Permanant Change of Station] - will the partner get moving allowance to follow?

5. Same question as #4, but for married gay serviceperson.

6. Same question as #4, but for unmarried heterosexual serviceperson.

7. If an unmarried gay service person is together with the partner for ten years [then they split], could the partner claim 1/2 of the serviceperson’s pension when they retire after 20 [current law allows ex-spouses to claim this]?

8. Same question as #7, but for married gay serviceperson.

9. Same question as #7, but for unmarried heterosexual serviceperson.


256 posted on 12/18/2010 5:08:51 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...</i><p>)
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To: manc

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If a little ol’ lady like me can feel this outrage, angry and in a fighting mood, I can only imagine what real warriors are thinking and feeling.

It’s NOT OVER!!!


257 posted on 12/18/2010 5:12:14 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: Lazamataz

Merry Christmas


258 posted on 12/18/2010 5:41:11 PM PST by ballplayer
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To: Red Steel

Give it 2-3 years - they will have PINK TANKS!!! Believe it! Wait till the Army has Gay Pride day!


259 posted on 12/18/2010 6:14:32 PM PST by 2harddrive
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To: RightWingNutJob69

Time for the tea party.


260 posted on 12/18/2010 8:04:03 PM PST by Benchim
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