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Twenty Questions About Pornography. This Is A Test.
Right Side News ^ | December 18, 2010 | Phyllis Chesler

Posted on 12/18/2010 8:01:19 AM PST by IbJensen

Pornography has invaded the world’s imagination. It is everywhere: On the Internet, in films, in movies, in rap music videos. Five-year-old girls dress and are taught to behave like pornography stars in order to win beauty contests. Ten- to twelve-year-old girls both dress and behave like the pornographic images that surround them—and they provide sexual services to young boys.

Opera—high culture—has also been increasingly “sexed up.” I have seen productions of “Carmen” and “Lulu” in which the lead diva was half-naked and in which she, too, sang the role as if she was a contemporary pornography star and prostitute.

No, I do not like any of this.

Yes, I take it all very seriously—as many Second Wave feminists and our Christian and conservative allies once did.

No, I do not think that hiding women beneath burqas is, therefore, any kind of solution. In fact, both pornography and prostitution are booming businesses in most Muslim countries.

Before we go any further, let’s play twenty questions. I really want your answers.

1. Is pornography “work” or is it a violent crime?

2. Is pornography “free speech” in action or is it a violent, often murderous crime?

3. Is pornography really a “victimless” crime?

4. Are pimps, johns, traffickers, and landlords being victimized? If so, why are they not complaining?

5. Are the people, mainly men, who buy and watch pornography being victimized? If so, why are they not complaining? Is anyone forcing them to consume pornography?

6. Are the seductive, taunting, smiling, naked girls and women who are being paid “good” money–victims? If so, why don’t they complain, leave, find some other job?

7. Isn’t working in pornography a job just like any other job–like any other acting job?

8. Aren’t pornography actors there of their own free will—for the easy money, the attention, the “stardom?”

9. Isn’t our right to see and read whatever interests us essential to our fundamental liberty?

10. Doesn’t the First Amendment guarantee us this right? If we criminalize one kind of “free speech,” where will it end? Who will decide what information or images we are allowed to see? Won’t state or religious censorship chill our rights, even our very thoughts?

11. On behalf of “free speech,” and privacy rights, didn’t Second Wave feminists avidly collaborate with pornographers to ensure that pornography remained a civil right?

12. Didn’t Second Wave feminists launch the battle against violence against women, which included sexual harassment, rape, incest, domestic battering—as well as the most serious battle against pornography and prostitution? Weren’t they vilified for collaborating with Christians and conservatives on the issue of pornography and prostitution?

13. How many women from wealthy and prominent families, or with advanced educations, “choose” to work in pornography or as prostitutes?

14. Did you know that, by definition, pornography is that which has to do with “prostitutes.” “Porne” in Greek is a “prostitute.” The so-called actresses in pornography are treated as if they are–and usually soon are–also “working” as prostitutes.

15. How different is being a prostitute from being a stripper, massage therapist, or a nurse?

16. How many prostituted girls and women are actually free to leave, walk out, give it all up?

17. Where might they go? Where might they call “home?” Who will help them get off drugs and alcohol, restore their ravaged health, support them as they deal with the sexually transmitted diseases, including AIDS, with which johns have infected them?

18. Do you have any idea of what the average age of a pornography actress/prostitute is?

19. How long a shelf-life does a “working girl” (prostitute, pornography actress) actually have?

20. Why does pornography “turn” people on?

I lived through the great feminist Sex Wars. I was both a participant and an eye-witness, as well as a confidante to feminists who were on both sides of this War. But before I share memories and analysis, I really want to hear from you. Your answers will help me understand how to share a vast body of knowledge and history with you in the most productive way. Here’s a hint to help you think through these questions.

Pornography is a multi-billion dollar industry, right up there with guns and drugs. It is enormously profitable but not to the “workers,” most of whom are girls and women who have been sold by their parents, captured in war, kidnapped off the street, forced by their husbands, or who have been driven by poverty, racism, incest, and the most violent sexism into the arms of pimps, traffickers, landlords, advertisers, law enforcement officers, and johns.

Phyllis Chesler, Ph.D is an Emerita Professor of Psychology and Women's Studies at City University of New York. She is an author, psychotherapist and an expert courtroom witness. She has lectured and organized political, legal, religious and human rights campaigns in the United States and in Canada, Europe, the Middle East and the Far East. A popular guest on campuses and in national and international print, television, radio and online media, she has been an expert commentator on the major events of our time. She has lived in Kabul, Afghanistan, and in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv. She currently resides in Manhattan.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cultureofcorruption; culturewar; declineofsociety; filth; modernslavery; moralabsolutes; porn; pornification; sexindustry; sexpositiveagenda; sextourism; sexworkers
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1 posted on 12/18/2010 8:01:20 AM PST by IbJensen
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To: All

http://www.phyllis-chesler.com/


2 posted on 12/18/2010 8:02:49 AM PST by IbJensen ("How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think"-A. Hitler)
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To: IbJensen
  1. I'd hit it.
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3 posted on 12/18/2010 8:04:32 AM PST by Lazamataz (Only 18.5 days of Democrat fascism left!)
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To: IbJensen
It is everywhere: On the Internet, in films, in movies, in rap music videos.

Also in the earliest photographs, computer (pre-Internet) BBS file downloads, cave paintings.

It has been around since mankind has.
4 posted on 12/18/2010 8:05:16 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: IbJensen

>>sang the role as if she was a contemporary pornography star and prostitute

Porn stars SING?? Maybe a show tune or two in gay porn, but not in “regular” porn. LOL!


5 posted on 12/18/2010 8:06:28 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Obama is like a rocket scientist....who's trying to do brain surgery with a hammer.)
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To: IbJensen

“Pornography is a multi-billion dollar industry, right up there with guns and drugs.”

Which one of these is not like the other?


6 posted on 12/18/2010 8:06:52 AM PST by BenKenobi ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." -Tolkein)
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To: IbJensen
20. Why does pornography “turn” people on?

Naked woman = basic biology = boner. Thank you for letting me explain....

7 posted on 12/18/2010 8:08:17 AM PST by freebilly (No wonder the left has a boner for Obama. There's CIALIS in soCIALISt....)
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To: freebilly

*insert gag* Professor of Women’s Studies.

I’m here all day folks!


8 posted on 12/18/2010 8:09:58 AM PST by BenKenobi ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." -Tolkein)
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To: IbJensen
While this post is useless without pictures, I sense a stage production which features a half naked Diva is not as pornographic as it is repulsive and barf worthy.

Then again, I do not go to much Opera because other aspects are equally repulsive and barf worthy.

Best regards

9 posted on 12/18/2010 8:11:30 AM PST by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: IbJensen; All

I have never seen an ugly women who supports pornography.


10 posted on 12/18/2010 8:11:45 AM PST by j.argese (Boycott Nevada.)
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To: Bryanw92
Porn stars SING?? Maybe a show tune or two in gay porn, but not in “regular” porn. LOL!

Define SING

(Warning, not safe for work.... or home, for that matter!)

11 posted on 12/18/2010 8:12:07 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: BenKenobi

Three guesses and the first two don’t count.


12 posted on 12/18/2010 8:14:07 AM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: freebilly

Women earn more than men in porn, but I don’t here anybody whining about the “Glass Ceiling” for men.


13 posted on 12/18/2010 8:14:12 AM PST by Lance Romance
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To: IbJensen
Freedom is a double-edged sword.

The "Right" should not be legislating morality or personal behaviour anymore than the "Left" should be legislating what we eat, drive, have in our gun cabinets, or keep in our wallets.

14 posted on 12/18/2010 8:14:58 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: IbJensen

I guessed she would be an ugly manly looking bull dyke before I clicked on the link.


15 posted on 12/18/2010 8:16:11 AM PST by henry_reardon
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To: TomGuy

“It has been around since mankind has.”

So has Satan.


16 posted on 12/18/2010 8:17:17 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: DTogo; IbJensen; All

That is correct. Porn is bad, but having more Government control our lives is worse..


17 posted on 12/18/2010 8:17:17 AM PST by KevinDavis (I have no problem with a black president. But the one we have now is yellow to the core)
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To: Lazamataz
Phyllis Chesler:


18 posted on 12/18/2010 8:17:36 AM PST by RetroSexual
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To: IbJensen
The feminization of society continues... Listen Phyllis and listen good. I bet dollars to donuts you would NOT be attracted to a man who is a neuter creature.

If this describes your "guy," I know you really, really despise him and can't figure out why because he is doing exactly what you think a man ought to be.

19 posted on 12/18/2010 8:18:26 AM PST by John123 (Requiem for Euroland...)
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To: IbJensen
Omitted first paragraph:

Editor’s note: Earlier this month, NewsRealBlog contributor Megan Fox wrote a fiery post attributing the pornification of our culture to Second Wave feminists. Phyllis Chesler, a veritable Second Wave icon, countered with a passionate defense of the Second Wave’s successes, reminding us of the ideological diversity in her generation of feminism. Far from being apologists for pornography and prostitution, Dr. Chesler and many of her feminist compatriots formed an “abolitionist” alliance with Christian and conservative activists to challenge those who defended “sex work” and pornography on First Amendment grounds. The following piece begins to explore some of that common ground.

This sort of stuff has the potential of causing a split between social conservatives and the rest of the conservative movement, with some social conservatives allying themselves with leftist radical feminists over porn.

20 posted on 12/18/2010 8:19:04 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: IbJensen

The questions are so leading, and clearly presented from the “anti” perspective that no reasonable findings could be made.

Don’t get me wrong—I am not into porno, and I think the points made in the intro are close to my own feelings.

However, many of these questions are akin to “when did you stop beating your wife.”


21 posted on 12/18/2010 8:19:49 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Don't taze my junk bro.)
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To: BenKenobi
Which one of these is not like the other?


22 posted on 12/18/2010 8:23:29 AM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: PapaBear3625

There’s a different between freedom and approbation. Porn isn’t a good thing for the people who work in it.

Yes, freedom permits them to engage in that activity, and there will always be a market for that activity, but how many of you would want your daughters to be engaged in that activity?


23 posted on 12/18/2010 8:23:58 AM PST by BenKenobi ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." -Tolkein)
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To: IbJensen

. Are the people, mainly men, who buy and watch pornography being victimized

Really? You actually believe this?
You need to do some research amongst the women folk.


24 posted on 12/18/2010 8:24:11 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA
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To: henry_reardon
Her's an actual pic of the professor

She would not have any "issues" over men preferring to look at women who are younger and hotter than her. Of course not.

25 posted on 12/18/2010 8:24:14 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: BenKenobi

Ummm, “industry?”


26 posted on 12/18/2010 8:25:45 AM PST by Erasmus (Personal goal: Have a bigger carbon footprint than Tony Robbins.)
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To: IbJensen

Way too many questions if she really wants a response. I am sure she already has her idea of what each answer is supposed to be and there for has her “plan of attack” all laid out.

As the father of a lot of girls I will say this. You have to give your girls attention. My 13 yo likes to watch Kendra,(yeah I am a horrible parent/s). I like to make fun of Kendra so it works out. I tell her time and time again that for every Kendra there are thousands of other girls who have real world problems that you don’t want any part of.

I don’t think telling grown men or women that pornography is bad is going to help one stinking bit. I don’t think any amount of guilt trip is going to change their minds. It really begins at home. The users of pornography are not going to change so we need to stem the tide of girls willing to sell their bodies for a few bucks.


27 posted on 12/18/2010 8:27:11 AM PST by pennyfarmer (Even a RINO will chew its foot off when caught in a trap.)
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To: RetroSexual

Jewish psychologist. Jewish American Princess.....


28 posted on 12/18/2010 8:28:33 AM PST by Concho
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To: RetroSexual
Look! No wedding ring either!
29 posted on 12/18/2010 8:28:35 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: IbJensen
19. How long a shelf-life does a “working girl” (prostitute, pornography actress) actually have?

DVDs last practically forever.
30 posted on 12/18/2010 8:29:22 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: BenKenobi
When somebody talks about forming "an abolitionist alliance", they're not talking about using persuasion, but using force and intimidation to accomplish their goals.
31 posted on 12/18/2010 8:30:15 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Lazamataz

I think I’ve been on FR too long...as I scrolled through your post I thought “this must be that Lazamataz guy”. I got to the tagline and I was right!

That alone got me laughing (so did your post).


32 posted on 12/18/2010 8:31:36 AM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: RetroSexual
No, not HER.

They had 20 questions about pornography, so I gave 'em 20 answers.

33 posted on 12/18/2010 8:31:42 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: LostInBayport
Another Satisfied CustomerTM
34 posted on 12/18/2010 8:32:57 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: DTogo

All legislation is legislating morality. The only question is are wee going to legislate the morality of traditional Christian America or that of Hustler. To date Hustler is winning hands down.

The upper house of the Swiss Parliament is considering a bill to do away with laws against incest, as long as both partners are consenting adults.

I do not approve. I would like to see porno criminalized, starting with production and distribution. Making porno is
Prostitution.


35 posted on 12/18/2010 8:33:07 AM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: PapaBear3625

There’s no force like Wilberforce.


36 posted on 12/18/2010 8:33:19 AM PST by BenKenobi ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." -Tolkein)
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To: DTogo

All legislation is legislating morality. The only question is are wee going to legislate the morality of traditional Christian America or that of Hustler. To date Hustler is winning hands down.

The upper house of the Swiss Parliament is considering a bill to do away with laws against incest, as long as both partners are consenting adults.

I do not approve. I would like to see porno criminalized, starting with production and distribution. Making porno is
Prostitution.


37 posted on 12/18/2010 8:33:20 AM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Lazamataz
I have an allergic reaction to porn.


It makes my stecker piff.

38 posted on 12/18/2010 8:33:51 AM PST by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP!)
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To: MARTIAL MONK
I have an allergic reaction to porn.

I break out in hands.

39 posted on 12/18/2010 8:35:10 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: MARTIAL MONK

So much info that most of us probably didn’t want to know.


40 posted on 12/18/2010 8:36:16 AM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: IbJensen

For being a PhD, she asks a lot of questions with simple answers.


41 posted on 12/18/2010 8:36:47 AM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

” 19. How long a shelf-life does a “working girl” prostitute, pornography actress) actually have?”

About the same as a professional sports athlete?


42 posted on 12/18/2010 8:37:19 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: henry_reardon
Chessler is no dyke. She is an older woman and not that cute when she was younger. But what does that have to do with anything?

She has been trying to make sense of things for decades. She was one of "feminism's" original seven sisters but after growing up realized that the "movement" is full of bullshit and hypocrisy.

She has put herself out there on the muslim/sharia issue more publicly and courageously than anyone else you can name...right up there with Gaffney.

But, you are right, she is not easy on the eyes and that's all that matters.

43 posted on 12/18/2010 8:37:48 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: BenKenobi

Guns.


44 posted on 12/18/2010 8:38:26 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Point of clarification.)
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To: freebilly

Two brains, not enough blood for both - Robin Williams.


45 posted on 12/18/2010 8:39:00 AM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: BenKenobi

And Wilberforce accomplished his goals by using government force. A person who puts porn on the same level as slavery is likely to sanction the use of government force to accomplish her goals. I’m not quite ready to see a civil war with over six hundred thousand deaths happening over porn, are you?


46 posted on 12/18/2010 8:40:20 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Lance Romance

Its probably because they’re having sex on it


47 posted on 12/18/2010 8:40:31 AM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: brytlea
SHEEP PORN!


48 posted on 12/18/2010 8:42:37 AM PST by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP!)
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To: Jack Black
What consenting adults do is their own business. After your criminalization of production and distribution of porno as prostitution comes guns as causing murder, meat as cruelty to animals, tobacco/alcohol as causing health issues, CO2 as killing the planet, etc, etc, etc.

No thanks. In fact, NFW!

49 posted on 12/18/2010 8:46:18 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: MARTIAL MONK
He Haw - Har, Dee, Har, Har!
50 posted on 12/18/2010 8:46:51 AM PST by ghostrider
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