Skip to comments.Fort Wainwright man faces charge of attempted murder of an unborn child
Posted on 12/18/2010 8:02:19 AM PST by markomalley
FAIRBANKS A Fort Wainwright man is being held without bail after he allegedly pushed and squeezed his wifes abdomen in a failed attempt to make her miscarry.
Orane A. Green, 21, has been charged with attempted murder of an unborn child and first-degree attempted assault, both felonies.
Attempted murder of an unborn child carries a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison.
Fort Wainwright police were called to the couples home on post just before 10 p.m. Tuesday for a report of domestic violence. Greens wife, a soldier stationed at Fort Wainwright, told police they were discussing their marriage and her pregnancy when he punched her in the abdomen and threw her to the floor, according to charging documents.
He proceeded to press, squeeze and twist the womans abdomen in an attempt to end her pregnancy, court documents allege.
Green is not enlisted in the Army, U.S. Army Alaska spokesman Maj. Bill Coppernoll said.
Green reportedly told police the incident occurred because his wife would not work with him about her pregnancy. Coppernoll was unable to provide more information about what Green meant by that statement.
Federal laws also prevented Coppernoll from releasing additional information about the condition of Greens wife, he said.
Green has no criminal record in Alaska.
Fort Wainwright police initially forwarded a charge of second-degree felony assault to prosecutors, though the Fairbanks District Attorneys Office decided to introduce more serious charges ahead Greens arraignment Wednesday.
District Attorney Mike Gray said in an e-mail it was inappropriate to discuss the specifics of the decision, but that the facts and circumstances of the event predicate the charge.
If a woman tries to abort a child without the father's consent, it's her body and her "choice."
Just another proof that liberalism is a mental disease.
I recall some troll telling me recently that killing a baby in a similar manner to this is not murder. I wonder if that troll will show up on this thread.
So, we now know that Mr. Green is not a muslim terrorist. Perhaps he should convert thereby having all charges dropped. Just call Major Hasan for instructions on how this is done.
If this guy was a doctor he could claim it was a new, more compassionate way to liberate the woman from this sickness called pregnancy. You know, so she wouldn’t have to face such things as medical records, etc.; making it a truly private matter (with the exception of the “bear-hugger). /s
One more proof that man can’t think.
The baby is a baby when someone wants to think of it that way.
The baby isn’t a baby when they don’t want to think of it that way.
Yes, it is attempted murder. Once that is established as a point, then the humanity of the unborn baby is established. Then every time an unborn baby is killed, it is murder. (It always has been. This was just an exercise in thinking.)
Simple abortion. Very legal
If there was a way for men to absolve themselves of responsibility like a woman can then this sort of thing would happen a whole lot less.
>>Attempted murder of an unborn child carries a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison.<<
Ok, there seems to be some sort of disconnect here. How can a fetus not be a viable human but someone can still be charged with attempted murder for trying to kill it? There as got to some lawyer somewhere who can use cases like this against the abortionists.
In areas other than criminal abortion, the law has been reluctant to endorse any theory that life, as we recognize it, begins before live birth or to accord legal rights to the unborn except in narrowly defined situations and except when the rights are contingent upon live birth. For example, the traditional rule of tort law denied recovery for prenatal injuries even though the child was born alive. 63 That rule has been changed in almost every jurisdiction. In most States, recovery is said to be permitted only if the fetus was viable, or at least quick, when the injuries were sustained, though few [410 U.S. 113, 162] courts have squarely so held. 64 In a recent development, generally opposed by the commentators, some States permit the parents of a stillborn child to maintain an action for wrongful death because of prenatal injuries. 65 Such an action, however, would appear to be one to vindicate the parents' interest and is thus consistent with the view that the fetus, at most, represents only the potentiality of life. Similarly, unborn children have been recognized as acquiring rights or interests by way of inheritance or other devolution of property, and have been represented by guardians ad litem. 66 Perfection of the interests involved, again, has generally been contingent upon live birth. In short, the unborn have never been recognized in the law as persons in the whole sense.
The above, from the text of the Roe v Wade decision, indicates that there is no consistent definition of when life begins.
The fetal murder charges that are popping up in various states will change that. After all, the definition of murder is, The unlawful killing of another human being without justification or excuse.
>>The unlawful killing of another human being without justification or excuse.<<
If they convict for killing the unborn that surely can be used as precedent in cases against abortion.
“If they convict for killing the unborn that surely can be used as precedent in cases against abortion.”
Nope. Well, you would think so. But this is not the first time someones been tried and in other cases convicted, of killing an unborn child during a crime.
One would think. But I would imagine before any AG would want to take that to the SCOTUS, he would want to see a preponderance of the states in the country with that law.
And then it would still be an uphill battle.
Seems to me then it would be good to work within the system to find and push as many cases of either attempted murder or murder in cases similar to the one described in this thread. Build case law if you will.
There certainly is a conflicting duality.