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DREAM Act blocked in Senate
MSNBC ^ | 12/18/10 | Carrie Dann

Posted on 12/18/2010 9:22:36 AM PST by gandalftb

Senate Republicans blocked a measure Saturday that would have offered provisional legal status to some adults who came to America illegally as children.

Democratic backers of the legislation fell short of the 60 votes to move the DREAM Act legislation forward. Democratic Sens. Mark Pryor of Arkansas, Jon Tester of Montana, Max Baucus of Montana, Kay Hagan of North Carolina, and Ben Nelson of Nebraska voted against bringing the bill to the floor; Republican Sens. Richard Lugar, Lisa Murkowski, and Robert Bennett voted for it. The vote was 55-41.

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The bad news is that DADT made it through.
1 posted on 12/18/2010 9:22:41 AM PST by gandalftb
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To: gandalftb

DADT or something similar can easily be changed/fixed/reimplemented.

DREAM act, however, would be far more difficult and problematic to attempt to fix. I’m ok w/ no permanent damage - so far. We still have START to stop.


2 posted on 12/18/2010 9:25:45 AM PST by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: gandalftb

The Nightmare cloture vote was huge. I’m very disappointed about DADT if the actual votes mirrors the cloture vote.


3 posted on 12/18/2010 9:26:38 AM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: gandalftb

So, what does a queer illegal who wants to enlist do now?


4 posted on 12/18/2010 9:26:41 AM PST by JPG (Sarah dedicated her new book to Trig: "I'm glad you're here.")
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To: gandalftb
Sens. Mark Pryor of Arkansas, Jon Tester of Montana, Max Baucus of Montana, Kay Hagan of North Carolina, and Ben Nelson of Nebraska voted against bringing the bill to the floor;

Just look at this crap! Democratic senators don't vote to support yet GOP BLOCKS! What the heck is this stuff?????? The Media must be destroyed...

5 posted on 12/18/2010 9:27:07 AM PST by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: gandalftb
Republican Sens. Richard Lugar, Lisa Murkowski, and Robert Bennett voted for it.

Noted.

6 posted on 12/18/2010 9:27:21 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (2012 is coming.)
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To: Principled

I agree. This one needed to go down. I’m much relieved.


7 posted on 12/18/2010 9:27:43 AM PST by whershey
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To: gandalftb
Senate Republicans blocked a measure Saturday that would have offered provisional legal status to some adults who came to America illegally as children.

HOW MANY DEMOCRATS VOTED NO???? Pure propaganda BS from MSNBC the Imitation News Network...

8 posted on 12/18/2010 9:28:22 AM PST by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Principled

Glad to hear that regarding DADT. Can this possibly be addressed at the beginning of the next Congress (i.e., amended, repealed, etc.)? Will it be a priority?? I certainly hope so.

Still giddy over the Nightmare cloture vote. I was nervous as heck during that vote.


9 posted on 12/18/2010 9:28:43 AM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: gandalftb
Republican Sens. Richard Lugar, Lisa Murkowski, and Robert Bennett voted for it.

Way to go you who place a vote just because of an "R" after the name!

Well, at least one of these liberal hacks won't be back I do believe.

10 posted on 12/18/2010 9:29:03 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: gandalftb

The DREAM is dead. This is such freaking good news, because there was so much more included in the bill that the media wasn’t talking about. It sounded like such a “compassionate” bill but when you get into the details you realize how far reaching/extreme it really is.


11 posted on 12/18/2010 9:29:23 AM PST by floridavoter2
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To: Principled

Quite true. Opening the borders to 100 million new Democrat voters at this time would mean the end of the US Constitution as we know it.


12 posted on 12/18/2010 9:29:39 AM PST by iowamark
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To: Charles Henrickson
Republican Sens. Richard Lugar, Lisa Murkowski, and Robert Bennett voted for it.

So shouldn't the headline scream.... "GOP TRIES FRANTICALLY TO SUPPORT DREAM ACT BUT DEMOCRATS COULDN'T MUSTER SUPPORT....

13 posted on 12/18/2010 9:30:10 AM PST by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Charles Henrickson
Republican Sens. Richard Lugar, Lisa Murkowski, and Robert Bennett voted for it.

Same stooges, different skit

14 posted on 12/18/2010 9:30:27 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: JPG

Dude,

Excellent question. lol!


15 posted on 12/18/2010 9:30:27 AM PST by hatter
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To: April Lexington
Pure propaganda BS from MSNBC the Imitation News Network...

Their two viewers would vote communist anyway.

16 posted on 12/18/2010 9:30:56 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: April Lexington

Has the actual DADT vote occurred yet?


17 posted on 12/18/2010 9:31:06 AM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: floridavoter2
Every nightmare idea is carefully camouflaged as something good. Few people will knowingly commit suicide.
18 posted on 12/18/2010 9:32:02 AM PST by iowamark
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To: JPG

Only legal resident non-citizens are allowed to enlist. One of the reasons the DREAM Act was so nefarious is that it would have allowed illegals to enlist.


19 posted on 12/18/2010 9:32:29 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: gandalftb
Republican Sens. Richard Lugar, Lisa Murkowski, and Robert Bennett voted for it.

At least they have R's after their names and they can win elections. That's what's most important. /Establishmentarian
20 posted on 12/18/2010 9:33:01 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: April Lexington
The AP story says the same thing:

WASHINGTON (AP) — Senate Republicans have blocked a bill to grant hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants brought to the United States as children a chance to gain legal status if they enroll in college or join the military.

21 posted on 12/18/2010 9:33:37 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: gandalftb

Does anyone know how Missouri Senator Claire McCaskill voted on the Dream Act?


22 posted on 12/18/2010 9:35:18 AM PST by Sunshine54 (Sunshine54)
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To: gandalftb
I've sent my snotty-gram to Lugar. If anyone else is interested:

http://lugar.senate.gov/contact/contactform.cfm

Mot likely it won't matter. I suspect this turd is going to retire. He's not inline at all with the general public in Indiana; his votes seem to indicate he doesn't plan on answering for it later. I'm more than a little irritated with that puke right now.

23 posted on 12/18/2010 9:35:18 AM PST by FunkyZero ("It's not about duck hunting !")
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To: La Lydia

WASHINGTON (AP) — Senate Republicans have blocked a bill to grant hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants brought to the United States as children a chance to gain legal status if they enroll in college or join the military.

They already go to school and join the military


24 posted on 12/18/2010 9:35:31 AM PST by scooby321
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To: La Lydia

Associated Propaganda (AP)


25 posted on 12/18/2010 9:35:49 AM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: La Lydia
Orchestrated propaganda masquerading as the Fourth Estate. If Wikileaks can bring down governments, we can use the same tactics to bring down the Leftist media. These people are beyond the pale...
26 posted on 12/18/2010 9:36:37 AM PST by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: scooby321

They already go to school. They may not join the military unless they are legal residents. If they attempt to enroll as illegals and lie, they are prosecuted for fraud.


27 posted on 12/18/2010 9:37:56 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: gandalftb

The Good Lord continues to watch over our country.

I hope DADT will eventually fail. I’m concerned enlisted folks will be quitting in droves. I would.


28 posted on 12/18/2010 9:39:01 AM PST by upchuck (When excerpting please use the entire 300 words we are allowed. No more one or two sentence posts!)
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To: Charles Henrickson
Lugar has long needed to be voted out, but he keeps being elected because he is so intellectual, so moderate, so reasonable--he's so DEMOCRAT and LIBERAL. I do believe he would vote to do away with our Constitution and go under international court and global govt. In fact, he is doing that now and for the past 2 decades.-----Arrrgh!

vaudine

29 posted on 12/18/2010 9:39:19 AM PST by vaudine
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To: La Lydia
We need to start posting the names, resumes and addresses of the people who run the Leftist media. Who are these jerks/ Where do they live? How do they live? Who funds them? Where did they go to school? Who are their friends? Let's, in this age of ultimate transparency, challenge the dominant paradigm. Let's expose these creators of reality to public scrutiny... WE WANT PICTURES!!!!!!!
30 posted on 12/18/2010 9:39:33 AM PST by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: floridavoter2
The DREAM is dead. This is such freaking good news, because there was so much more included in the bill that the media wasn’t talking about. It sounded like such a “compassionate” bill but when you get into the details you realize how far reaching/extreme it really is.

Exactly right. Really scary stuff.
31 posted on 12/18/2010 9:40:24 AM PST by TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
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To: Charles Henrickson
Thanks, Alaska! Keep electing Murk and her ilk and you will indeed be able to see Russia from you house, no matter where in Alaska you live.

vaudine

32 posted on 12/18/2010 9:41:02 AM PST by vaudine
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To: gandalftb

I assume this means it’s dead and nothing will be done in the next few days or the next congress, as the GOP won’t be initiating any “dream act”.

I guess it doesn’t surprise anyone that the MSM coverage refused to mention the part of the act that would allow these “new citizens” to sponsor their family members. So letting in this suppose 1 - 2 million is really closer to 8 - 10 million of more - mommy, daddy, brothers, sisters, granny and grampa. Every illegal kid in the country old enough for college or the military would enroll so the rest of the family would have a path to citizenship and a right to stay in the country for as long as that took. All the have to do is get a government grant and go to college for two years. They wouldn’t even have to graduate. What a joke. It’s clear if was a backdoor way for amnesty for at least 6-8 million illegals here now.

The MSM continues as the greatest threat to the America of our forefathers, as it uses it’s power day after day to brainwash and program America. Listen to people speaking if they even bother to talk about politics, they regurgitate what they hear on CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC,MSNBC.

It’s all so freaking sad that people listen to the crap the MSM spews and accept it, make decisions based on it and spread it to other people.


33 posted on 12/18/2010 9:42:03 AM PST by Beatthedrum
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To: All

It’s not over yet.

Obama has put ICE on ice. Deportations will be gutted by executive or DOJ/DHS fiats.

DOJ will continue to harrass states that enforce immigration laws.

Obama and DHS, much like the EPA & FCC, will change the law via changes in department regulations and standards. Not to mention states which try to have their own mini-versions of the Dream Act.

Congress must still be vigilant....WE MUST STILL BE VIGILANT.

THE BATTLE FOR DUNE CONTINUES....


34 posted on 12/18/2010 9:45:38 AM PST by ak267
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To: JPG

He says that he/she is a Democrat voter.

But do not fool yourself, the homosexual’s desire to serve in the military is not their issue. This is a Trojan Horse for them to implement to the rest of their agenda.

For a hint, go back to the 18 year vote campaign. Theame slogans will be applied to the homosexuals.

The destruction of the family unit via the destruction of marriage is their goal.


35 posted on 12/18/2010 9:46:08 AM PST by sport
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To: Sunshine54

She voted YES.


36 posted on 12/18/2010 9:46:19 AM PST by Andy'smom
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To: JPG

He says that he/she is a Democrat voter.

But do not fool yourself, the homosexual’s desire to serve in the military is not their issue. This is a Trojan Horse for them to implement to the rest of their agenda.

For a hint, go back to the 18 year vote campaign. Theame slogans will be applied to the homosexuals.

The destruction of the family unit via the destruction of marriage is their goal.


37 posted on 12/18/2010 9:46:27 AM PST by sport
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To: floridavoter2
Agreed, every time an idea has some politically reasonable image, others hang their ornament on the tree until it tips over.

Having spent much time with Marines that were also Mexican citizens, I have no problem fast tracking them to American citizenship. You can't be more American than to be willing to die for America.

Keep the bill simple and recognize deserving people only.

38 posted on 12/18/2010 9:47:36 AM PST by gandalftb (OK State, 10-2, Go Cowboys!)
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To: gandalftb
It's AMAZING a homosexual is responsible for the wikileaks disaster- doing it because he was angry with the military- and we're basically giving him what he wanted.

Frightening!

39 posted on 12/18/2010 9:49:23 AM PST by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: gandalftb

How did Joe Manchin vote?


40 posted on 12/18/2010 9:51:34 AM PST by Bevo
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To: gandalftb

Don’t we already have a law that ‘fast tracks’ the citizenship of legal permanent residents serving in the military? Did this bill address that issue at all?


41 posted on 12/18/2010 9:53:49 AM PST by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights.)
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To: gandalftb
Dream act failed. Merry Christmas America. Keep up the good fight.
42 posted on 12/18/2010 9:56:00 AM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: gandalftb

Rove stooge, Dana Perino, calls Murkowski a “strong conservative.”

Connect the dots ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2642067/posts


44 posted on 12/18/2010 9:59:48 AM PST by maggief
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To: April Lexington
We need to start posting the names, resumes and addresses of the people who run the Leftist media. Who are these jerks/ Where do they live? How do they live? Who funds them? Where did they go to school? Who are their friends? Let's, in this age of ultimate transparency, challenge the dominant paradigm. Let's expose these creators of reality to public scrutiny... WE WANT PICTURES!!!!!!!

Great idea. Let's go for it full bore and expose these communist elites who want to destroy our Sacred Republic!

45 posted on 12/18/2010 10:01:58 AM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: AD from SpringBay
"Look at Me! Look at Me!" Lisa Murkowski is the problem child of the NRSC. And unless Joe Miller succeeds in the daunting task of proving the obvious fraud that led to her "reelection", she is gonna be a thorn in our sides for the next 6 years.
46 posted on 12/18/2010 10:03:07 AM PST by Mygirlsmom (On Jan 1, 2011 all tax paying Americans will discover the news that they are indeed "RICH")
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To: gandalftb

New tagline...


47 posted on 12/18/2010 10:03:45 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Oh yeah, Harry Reid? You and whose army?)
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To: gandalftb

Given that DADT will weaken the military that the Feds may send against us one day; given that the military has not been used effectively or for legitimate defense purposes (IMO - flame away!) for over a half century; given that fewer straight men and more gay men will now die in our overseas follies; given that the DREAM nightmare would have made reversal of any of the Marxist, anti-American crap we now face an impossibility over time: I am much in favor, if only one could pass, that it be DADT, not the nightmare.

Let the transvestites and transexuals join the women in running our ships, flying our planes, and conducting our ground ops with bizarre ROEs for a while. This will get reversed one day when the folly of it becomes apparent. The DREAM act would have caused irreparable harm.

Still, any RINOs who supported this nonsense should have short careers, as should all the Dems.


48 posted on 12/18/2010 10:12:47 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: gandalftb

why do they want to stay here anyway, the jobs are moving to Mexico?


49 posted on 12/18/2010 10:14:33 AM PST by Colvin (Proud Owner '66 Binder PU, '66 Binder Travelall,)
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To: Charles Henrickson

Murkpwski is the perfect example of what is wrong with our system. She lost the primary, got her corrupt insider Pork loving buddies to help her in the write in campaign, and now that she is re-elected for six years, goes back to her corrupt ways.

I hope every dime of federal $ that feed her fat porky ass in Alaska are eliminated. The woman has no class, no honesty, and no decency


50 posted on 12/18/2010 10:15:16 AM PST by milwguy
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