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Senate clears way for 'don't ask don't tell' repeal ^

Posted on 12/18/2010 9:33:26 AM PST by

The Senate has just voted to end debate on a bill that would lift the ban on gays serving openly in the military, essentially clearing the measure for passage and signature by the president.

Lawmakers voted 63 to 33 to end debate on the current policy, put in place by former president Bill Clinton, informally known as "don't ask don't tell."

The Senate could vote on final passage of the measure as early as today but it will most likely happen on Sunday or Monday.

"We are on the verge of ending 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' for good," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said after the vote "This is one of those moments in our history when we stepped up and squared our policies with the values this nation was founded upon."

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KEYWORDS: dadt; dontaskdonttell; homosexualagenda; showandtell; zot
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Well said, my FRiend. The ethos of the mititary is that they do not CARE what makes you "special". In fact, the DI's especially delight in detecting those "special ones."

This is really mind boggling in its stupidity, beyond the disgust in engenders.

301 posted on 12/18/2010 11:50:26 AM PST by don-o (Wait. What?)
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To: ShandaLear

[Answer a question for me, if a gay person goes to battle for this country and dies in the process, is his sacrifice less than a heterosexuals?]

No, but when half a platoon is gay and the hetero half is descriminated against by the leader, and it is time to go into battle and one half of the platoon gets fragged by the other half, then the sacrifice for the homos has been devastating. You have no idea what harm this will cause.

302 posted on 12/18/2010 11:52:48 AM PST by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on written by me!))
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To: DaxtonBrown
Perhaps you can answer my conjecture - will the most egregious examples just get fragged?

I see no reason to speculate. I guess I am still trying to understand what is the positive benefit to the gay solder / sailor / airman / Marine?

I just do not see it. And I suspect the ones who pushed this do not care anything about those people. "Leave well enough alone" never applies to those in a wrecking mentality.

303 posted on 12/18/2010 11:55:55 AM PST by don-o (Wait. What?)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Thank you for your post and making a good point about our mission and the mission of other nations who have open homosexuals in their military.

Your comment here though, "Think of the cost: will our military now pay for AIDS treatment for openly gay soldiers? For housing for domestic partners and their health care? For “adoption services” for gays? This is a big hot mess that takes away from the military’s mission." deserves more attention and others have mentioned the cost to the military for this nonsense. This is for the FisCons who always keep reminding us that we should focus on the economic issues and don't bother with the social issues. Here's how a social issue ties directly with an economic one.

This nation is broke. Period. That is a fact. How are we going to afford this change in policy, which will run into the billions? Remember now, the same bunch in Congress pushing for homosexuals to serve openly is usually the same bunch who always, without fail, want to cut the defense budget, stop funding weapons and defense systems and make sure our troops don't have what they need to win.

So, they will vote to stop funding missile defense systems, etc. but they will order the Pentagon to allow homosexuals to have housing, BAQ, and order sensitivity training to those who refuse to bow at the altar of political correctness, etc. all of which COSTS MONEY?! Not to mention the increase in sexual harassment lawsuits because homosexuals are a "protected class" now and anything they do, it's the other guy's fault. The unintended consequences of this is going to be very costly.

And something else. Let's say folks do start dropping out of the military because they refuse to work with open homosexuals. Suppose recruitment numbers fall below target, then what? Reinstate the draft? Okay. Make sure open homosexuals and those who cheered them on are the FIRST ones drafted though. Wonder how many of them will flee to Canada, after cheering for this crap?

304 posted on 12/18/2010 11:56:20 AM PST by Sister_T ("Calling ILLEGAL aliens "immigrants" is like calling shoplifters 'customers'!"-UCFRoadWarrior ><>)
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To: Recovering_Democrat; manc

And I value (both of) your side(s) of the discussion. I will consider your words.

305 posted on 12/18/2010 11:57:43 AM PST by Lazamataz
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Well if i state what I wanted to truly say I would be banned from FR. My tagline I have had to change because the moderator did not like it.

having been a Marine, this is going to cause trouble in the military if it passes. Notice a republican whom voted Scott Brown All I can say is Brown is a RINO, and he is yellow and he fits right into the new Democrat Logo. It reminds me of the toilet. Yellow let it mellow and Brown goes down. brown has no backbone and no cahhones (sp).

306 posted on 12/18/2010 11:58:16 AM PST by hondact200 (Merry Christmas and Have a Blessed New Year)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica
And Veteran's Day parades will all have their rainbow flag marchers or the homosexuals will sue if not given a stage to parade their perversion on. They dance on the graves of the Founders.

307 posted on 12/18/2010 11:58:43 AM PST by 444Flyer ("The contest for ages has been to rescue liberty from the grasp of executive power." -Daniel Webster)
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To: Sooth2222
Please tell us that you don't believe that agenda-driven piece of crap Pentagon "survey". You know, the one that only 28% of those surveyed (usually 1000) completed and turned in? So what, they're using the responses of maybe 280 service members as justification for destroying the military that keeps us safe? You're willing to accept that as gospel? Say it ain't so!

Remember the myth of "Jessica Lynch as Zena, Warrior Princess"? That was contrived by feminist activists in the Pentagon who wanted so desperately to get women into ground combat MOSes. The facts came back to blow up in their faces then, and it will eventually blow up in the homo's faces as well (no pun intended). Only problem is, it will be too late, and irreparable damage will have been done to our national security.

I served in the US Army from 1985-1996, and attitudes would have to had a shift of catastrophic proportions in those 14 years for that survey to be accurate.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

308 posted on 12/18/2010 12:02:58 PM PST by wku man (Still holding my breath, but exhaling a bit after Nov. 2...)
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To: manc
This could have be stopped if talk radio etc had got involved but again the likes of Hannity will not even talk or even show videos of the likes of folsom fair. Something of which would really hurt the homosexual agenda.

I guess the question is, why is conservative talk radio so afraid of homosexual activism? Are hosts being intimidated or just unprincipled, caring more about ratings and avoiding boycotts?

309 posted on 12/18/2010 12:05:18 PM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Ol' Sparky

good question .
I do not know if the likes of Hannity agrees with the homosexual agenda and will not say so as he will lose viewers or he does not agree and has been silenced or he does not want to be called a name by the pro MSM .

Either way I do think it would be good and about time that he and others now spoke up and got involved in this conservative fight instead of always talking budget like Hannity does.
He’s sounding like a broken record .

If people knew what their agenda was and saw their freak parades then the public would be outraged and rise against their agenda IMHO.

310 posted on 12/18/2010 12:08:44 PM PST by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica
Once this becomes law, the FIRST thing that’s going to happen is that the military will institute Gay Diversity Training and EVERY marine will be ORDERED to attend. The brainwashing will proceed from there.

You're so right. But they'll be doing it without my teenaged sibling who for years was looking forward to signing up in 2011. We're very sad about it.

311 posted on 12/18/2010 12:10:18 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Criminals are looting the country in broad daylight.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Wouldn’t it be better to give the rest of us a chance to speak reason to people.. to DEBATE.. rather than just ZOT everone who doesn’t toe your line?

312 posted on 12/18/2010 12:11:05 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim
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So, if they can pass this, what would be wrong with coed showers in the military?

313 posted on 12/18/2010 12:11:28 PM PST by Binghamton_native
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To: manc

“Imagine now going on base and seeing two men kissing or some men wearing women’s clothes after work?”

I noticed recently there has been more and more references to transgender along with gay and lesbian in reference to DADT. I believe that the military will be forced to eventually accept transgender as depedents and eventually recruits. Or at least after repeal of DOMA that is the intent. I am a former Marine as well, Devil Dogs imagine what the “Ball” will look like 5 years from now? Two male Marines in dress blues slow dance and.....barf. Sorry guys!

314 posted on 12/18/2010 12:14:02 PM PST by OldGoatCPO
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To: Ol' Sparky

Actually the rise in homosexuality may be a consequence of single parent families from divorce, and adultery can include homosexuality. So, hey, its all on the road to hell.

315 posted on 12/18/2010 12:14:10 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: SomeCallMeTim

They have made their minds up due to crap of “well I know one and they’re nice” or some are simply trolls pushing their agenda , you know like sign up and leave a post then quickly disappear to post on another thread., aren’t they?

316 posted on 12/18/2010 12:14:18 PM PST by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

We’re not a liberal debating society. We do not debate those who are trying to destroy our Liberty. We zot them.

317 posted on 12/18/2010 12:15:19 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)
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To: OldGoatCPO

feel sick

318 posted on 12/18/2010 12:15:46 PM PST by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: OldGoatCPO
NOBODY is kicked out for being gay, they are kicked out for perform gay acts or admitting to them in violation of the UCMJ. If gay acts are performed in the privacy of their own home or a motel it is rarely reported and is generally of no concern. On base or post that is a different subject. You really must stop lecturing someone who has served has gone to war and has seen over 30 years of social experiments in the military not all good. DADT limited the number of homosexuals to only those willing to remain circumspect and follow the rules.

Well stated and completely true.

Having served 6 years in the silent service I can only see problems with this. It is bad enough that these idiots push for women on submarines expecting no problems. I see many problems coming not including those unintended that these clueless social engineers without any perspective could never imagine. It is always the same with these elite types who 'feel' they know better how to dig the ditch than those who actually are in the trenches breaking their backs doing the work...

319 posted on 12/18/2010 12:16:32 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: manc

Imagine the new recruits finding out when they graduate, and even worse for the poolees!

320 posted on 12/18/2010 12:17:22 PM PST by huldah1776
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