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To: DBeers
I oppose the radical homosexual agenda that seeks to alter our common understanding of marriage, family and common decency. I'm only - ONLY- trying to explain to you that not all gay people are evil, not all gay people want to seduce your children, not all gay people are Christian-haters. The people you and I wish to oppose are a vicious and ugly minority who wish to conflate private behavior into a political mandate.

Please try to open your mind and realize that honorable and honest people may disagree about many things. Ultimately, although you are loathe to admit it - we are on the same side. Aren't we? Do you support free enterprise? Limited government? Traditional families (i.e. no "Gay Marriage")? Secure borders? I do, 100%. I'm not the enemy. I want my country back from the socialists trying to steal it from us. The vast majority of them aren't gay, but they are dangerous. Let's restore our country together and then we can talk about how to help homosexuals reform themselves.

1,958 posted on 12/20/2010 4:12:20 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: andy58-in-nh; DBeers
The people you and I wish to oppose are a vicious and ugly minority

Not really. And they are not "gay". They are sexual deviants and the way they get new members is they recruit. The old farts that recruit are called chicken hawks.

Like I said, I have a homosexual brother. Used to bar hop with him and met his friends. Liked some a lot. They were still deviants. They still had screwed up lives and some were violent.

Did you know that domestic violence is higher among homosexuals then heterosexuals?

Homosexual Couples and Domestic Violence

1,961 posted on 12/20/2010 4:53:31 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: andy58-in-nh
Ultimately, although you are loathe to admit it - we are on the same side. Aren't we?

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No. Never.

1,968 posted on 12/20/2010 5:07:50 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: andy58-in-nh
We probably agree on much; however, it is not what is agreeable that premises strife.

From my perspective as to this subject, FR provides a forum that supports and promotes opposition of the homosexual agenda -there is no hatred of people condoned in this cause.

This forum provides news, a place to vent, a place to discuss, and place to strategize -with any debate limited to how best to oppose NOT whether opposition is legitimate or whether those opposing are well intentioned. Nor is it a place to equivocate and or diminish the legitimacy of the opposition to the homosexual agenda... I think this defines the line between contributor and agitator -between fellow patriot and leftist troll -between remaining or being zotted...

1,976 posted on 12/20/2010 5:41:55 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: andy58-in-nh; DBeers
I oppose the radical homosexual agenda that seeks to alter our common understanding of marriage, family and common decency. I'm only - ONLY- trying to explain to you that not all gay people are evil, not all gay people want to seduce your children, not all gay people are Christian-haters. The people you and I wish to oppose are a vicious and ugly minority who wish to conflate private behavior into a political mandate.

You know, andy, I've been studying up on homosexual behavior and the agenda since the mid 1980s. You cannot fool me, nor many of the people on FR who are on this thread and well aware of the nature and agenda of homosexuals.

Your straw man arguments - basically saying that we say "all gays are evil" or "all gays want to seduce are children" are a tactic you are skillfully employing to make us on FR look like knuckledragging "haters" and yourself as a kind, rational, caring person who is "conservative" but humane.

The fact is, among the population of those who identify as homosexuals a much larger proportion do indeed hate Christianity and all traditional morality, a huge proportion molest children including seduction of adolescent boys, a huge proportion do indeed support the radical homosexual agenda. Where are the voices of homosexuals who do not support the agenda?

....crickets....

You really think you're getting away with fooling everyone, but I am telling you right now you are not fooling very many people at all. Your attempt to paint DBeers and others here as ignoramuses who need your wisdom to enlighten us, and hateful people who need to become compassionate like your good self, is also offensive and insulting.

1,988 posted on 12/20/2010 6:19:43 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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