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Legislature should move on; gay marriage fight isn't worth it ZOT!
Concord Monitor ^ | 12-18-10 | oe Solmonese

Posted on 12/18/2010 12:36:57 PM PST by tricksy

In the wake of the new Republican majority in the New Hampshire Legislature, some social conservatives want to turn back the clock on same-sex marriage. What a waste of time in a country and a state more rightly focused on righting our economic ship.

According to exit polls last month, voters overwhelmingly care about jobs and the economy, followed by taxes, terrorism and health care. Same-sex marriage is not even near the bottom of this list; it is at the bottom. It's hard to imagine that New Hampshire legislators would spend an ounce of time on a settled matter.

Nonetheless, the Washington, D.C.-based National Organization for Marriage, the nation's leading anti-gay organization, is lobbying the State House to support repeal legislation in January. NOM's president has declared, after spending nearly $1 million in an unsuccessful push to defeat Gov. John Lynch, "We will now fight for a vote on a constitutional amendment and a repeal of same-sex marriage in New Hampshire."

This is the same D.C. lobbying group whose leadership is on record saying being gay is a "sexual disability" and should be a criminal offense. Yes, a crime.

Since Lynch, a centrist Democrat who initially opposed marriage equality, signed the bill into law, more than 1,000 committed gay and lesbian couples have been legally married.

And since that time? The sky has not fallen. Clocks have not stopped. Straight couples' marriages have not been threatened. In fact, same-sex marriage here has been a non-event.

One of those first couples to wed was Linda Murphy and Donna Swartwout, together for 19 years. At the time, Murphy said their marriage "was a reaffirmation of our love and our commitment, and a legal acknowledgment from our home state. Some day this will not even be a news story. It will just be a part of life."

That time has come. Marriages between committed same-sex couples no longer make the nightly newscast as some novelty or out-of-the-mainstream event. People in this state, and across the country, know that marriage is the only sure way to protect families. It is part of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

People are moving in the direction of basic equality, not away from it. More Catholics and political independents, says the Pew Research Center, approve of the freedom to marry than disapprove. Fifty-five percent of people in a University of New Hampshire survey support marriage equality.

What is also telling about the mood here is that after Lynch signed the marriage bill into law, NOM tried to launch a grassroots repeal of it. According to Granite State Progress, 80 towns rejected NOM's local ballot initiative, and 37 percent of New Hampshire towns didn't even consider the petition. To us, that says let's move on already.

Bravo to Republican Senate President Peter Bragdon, who knows voters don't really care about same-sex marriage. He said right after the election, "The economy, jobs and taxes. That will be our focus. I doubt there will be any marriage legislation introduced into the Senate."

There is always the slim possibility, however, that some will make this an issue. So brace yourself for the hollering coming from a tiny but vocal group claiming the gay couple in Cornish is somehow a danger to the Smith family down the street. Let's remember that the fear spread around last time around didn't ever pan out.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: antibiblicalmarriage; gaymarriage; homonaziagenda; homonazis; homonazism; homosexualagenda; newhampshire; nh; zottedpolesmoker
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1 posted on 12/18/2010 12:37:02 PM PST by tricksy
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To: tricksy
According to exit polls last month, voters overwhelmingly care about jobs and the economy, followed by taxes, terrorism and health care. Same-sex marriage is not even near the bottom of this list; it is at the bottom.

It was near the bottom of the list as it was being passed into law so that really isn't much of a reason not to push for a repeal.

2 posted on 12/18/2010 12:39:08 PM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: tricksy

I see how it works. When the Dems in DC are in lame duck and the country is hurting economically the gay agenda comes first. But in the gay Northeast lets just move on from the whole social issues and focus on the economy.


3 posted on 12/18/2010 12:39:45 PM PST by omega4179 (Quem deus vult perdere, dementat prius)
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To: tricksy

When the gay couple adopts the Smith family’s children, after the state determines the Smith’s have an unsafe environment due to their religious beliefs, we’ll have this discussion.


4 posted on 12/18/2010 12:39:54 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: tricksy

“Same-sex marriage is not even near the bottom of this list; it is at the bottom.”

Whose bottom?

But seriously, folks. When courts and a State legislature overrule the will of the people, to force a perverse agenda down their throats, it is to the people to kick them out of office and reverse their schemes, with the selection of new representatives.

While a healthy economy is important, if you cannot trust your representatives to be your representatives, then they cannot be trusted for other issues as well.


5 posted on 12/18/2010 12:42:35 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: kearnyirish2

“....near the bottom of this list; it is at the bottom....”

My sense is that is what the issue is all about.


6 posted on 12/18/2010 12:42:44 PM PST by Mouton
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To: Ol' Sparky

It is important because it is a moral issue our Congress has no business being involved in it.


7 posted on 12/18/2010 12:48:32 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: kearnyirish2
When the gay couple adopts the Smith family’s children, after the state determines the Smith’s have an unsafe environment due to their religious beliefs, we’ll have this discussion.

Excellent post.

Our country isn't falling apart because of neglect. Our country is falling apart because we've turned our back on God and have become so morally corrupt we can't even see how far we've fallen.

And I don't think anybody really cares about gay marriage so much as how gay marriage is used like a hammer to club gay activists into our public schools to indoctrinate our kids.
8 posted on 12/18/2010 12:49:07 PM PST by Jen Shroder
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To: tricksy

Was gay marriage at the bottom of the list when these guys fought for it? Or only when decent people try to repeal it?


9 posted on 12/18/2010 12:49:14 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: tricksy
Joe Solmonese? Consider the source.


10 posted on 12/18/2010 12:50:04 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: tricksy

YES IT IS. ANYONE WHO SUPPORTS GAY MARRIAGE IS SICK. AND, IN MY OPINION, VERY UN-AMERICAN.


11 posted on 12/18/2010 12:51:31 PM PST by mulligan
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To: tricksy
WRONG!

Now that the Military accepts faggots and dykes, this will get cited as Precedent, and Lawyers will take the Gay Rights bullshit right to the Courts to get Gay Marriage, Partner Benefits, etc., etc. all over the USA. This opens the floodgates for depravity to be the Law of the Land, folks.

Watch and see......

12 posted on 12/18/2010 12:54:03 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Mouton

: )

Eeeewwww!


13 posted on 12/18/2010 12:54:29 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: Jen Shroder

There is a whole Pandora’s Box besides the education front that is opened if this issue is “legitimized”, including “spousal benefits” (how much do the AIDS cocktails cost?), the “gay divorce” issue which has already reared its ugly head in court (how is custody treated when one is a biological “parent” and the other isn’t?), and how do you deal with any religious organizations (or any groups)that continue with the natural law? (by demonizing them, of course, and using the IRS as your “big stick” to punish them).


14 posted on 12/18/2010 12:59:49 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: tricksy

a zillion gay/military harassment lawsuits later, and we’ll see the cost, among other things


15 posted on 12/18/2010 1:02:31 PM PST by ROTB (Sans Christian revival, we are government slaves, or nuked by China/Russia when we finally revolt.)
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To: omega4179

Always. Once the left has pushed the issue until they’ve passed it, it’s always time then to drop it and focus on the material issues. That’s how they marginalise issues after they ignored jobs and the economy for two years while pushing to fight for those very same issues they say don’t matter once they’ve prevailed. They do this every time.


16 posted on 12/18/2010 1:03:05 PM PST by mrsmel
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To: Cicero

Exactly. The latest example of Margaret Thatcher’s ratchet effect.


17 posted on 12/18/2010 1:04:26 PM PST by mrsmel
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To: tricksy
Gay marriage advocated have tunneled into the conservative movement, and are trying to convince us they are one of us.
18 posted on 12/18/2010 1:30:01 PM PST by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: freekitty
It is important because it is a moral issue our Congress has no business being involved in it.

That's insane.

19 posted on 12/18/2010 1:33:49 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Oh yeah, Harry Reid? You and whose army?)
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To: tricksy; Jim Robinson

Pro-homo troll.


20 posted on 12/18/2010 1:35:35 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Oh yeah, Harry Reid? You and whose army?)
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To: EternalVigilance

Good job EV.


21 posted on 12/18/2010 1:37:41 PM PST by 2111USMC
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To: tricksy

I wonder when another liberal from the Concord Monitor will argue that supporting second amendment rights is ALSO just not worth it....you know, not important enough to the “right” people.


22 posted on 12/18/2010 1:39:13 PM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: wagglebee

IBTZ.


23 posted on 12/18/2010 1:51:21 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Oh yeah, Harry Reid? You and whose army?)
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To: tricksy
For anyone not familiar with the insidious plot that brought about gay marriage in New Hampshire in the first place...

How out-of-state activists brought gay marriage to NH

. . . And what happened in Nov. 2 election!

They have a playbook...and they will use it again, because it worked.

24 posted on 12/18/2010 1:51:44 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man
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To: tricksy

IBTZ


25 posted on 12/18/2010 1:55:38 PM PST by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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26 posted on 12/18/2010 1:57:04 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: EternalVigilance

No it’s not. This should have never been up for a vote.


27 posted on 12/18/2010 1:57:52 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Jim Robinson; tricksy
Hey Jim, it looks like Newbie (Retread?) tricksy may have wandered into the wrong forum by accident.
28 posted on 12/18/2010 1:59:32 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: freekitty

Too bad. We live in a moral universe even if you want to pretend we don’t.


29 posted on 12/18/2010 2:01:53 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Oh yeah, Harry Reid? You and whose army?)
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To: tricksy

So, newbie, before you disappear, care to let us know what you think of the article?

Posting and running is a sure mark of a troll.


30 posted on 12/18/2010 2:03:37 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Oh yeah, Harry Reid? You and whose army?)
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To: tricksy

Retread Zot!


31 posted on 12/18/2010 2:08:22 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

32 posted on 12/18/2010 2:17:15 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Oh yeah, Harry Reid? You and whose army?)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

<For anyone not familiar with the insidious plot that brought about gay marriage in New Hampshire in the first place...

How out-of-state activists brought gay marriage to NH

. . . And what happened in Nov. 2 election!<

...and don’t forget THIS lesson from the election from Massachusetts...

New Mass. Republican Party Chairman says party will no longer oppose same-sex “marriage”, abortion, other “social issues”
In interview in homosexual newspaper, featured on front page

April 8, 2009
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/09b/nassour/index.html

Mass. Republicans lose ALL statewide & Congressional races
Nov.4,2010
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/govt10/election10/general/results_statewide.html


33 posted on 12/18/2010 2:17:32 PM PST by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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To: tricksy

Smoked!


34 posted on 12/18/2010 2:20:26 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: tricksy

Looks like tricksy pulled one too many tricks


35 posted on 12/18/2010 2:22:13 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Doomonyou
"Tricksy hobbitsesses..."


36 posted on 12/18/2010 2:22:25 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Oh yeah, Harry Reid? You and whose army?)
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To: EternalVigilance

I don’t understand what you are saying. I know we live in a moral universe; so what’s your gripe?

Also, you can stop being rude. It makes you look like a fool.


37 posted on 12/18/2010 2:23:55 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: EternalVigilance

I also think this bill should have been voted down. Anything else, Mr. Wise Guy?


38 posted on 12/18/2010 2:25:29 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

I have no patience left for those who deny the moral basis for our laws, our form of government, and our liberty.


39 posted on 12/18/2010 2:25:53 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Oh yeah, Harry Reid? You and whose army?)
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To: massmike

Yikes!

If you have kids...get out while you can.


40 posted on 12/18/2010 2:26:16 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man
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To: EternalVigilance

What are you talking about?


41 posted on 12/18/2010 2:26:30 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: EternalVigilance

Jim Thompson is on a mission today!


42 posted on 12/18/2010 2:27:18 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: freekitty
it is a moral issue our Congress has no business being involved in it.

Explain what you meant, and why I'm wrong to say that such a statement is insane.

43 posted on 12/18/2010 2:27:45 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Oh yeah, Harry Reid? You and whose army?)
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To: EternalVigilance

I don’t deny any of that and you are a fool. Society should be the judge; not lawyers; government; etc.


44 posted on 12/18/2010 2:28:15 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

Again, that’s insane.


45 posted on 12/18/2010 2:29:05 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Oh yeah, Harry Reid? You and whose army?)
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To: EternalVigilance

I did in 3 posts.


46 posted on 12/18/2010 2:29:13 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: EternalVigilance

Also, please don’t dictate to me. You sound like an idiot.


47 posted on 12/18/2010 2:30:05 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

You don’t even understand what legitimate government is.


48 posted on 12/18/2010 2:30:22 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Oh yeah, Harry Reid? You and whose army?)
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To: EternalVigilance

And you do? All I see is a pompous fool mouthing off.


49 posted on 12/18/2010 2:31:03 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

All I see is an insult per post from you.

All I said is that to deny the moral component of government is insane.

Quite literally. Disconnected from reality. The kind of disconnect from reality that leads people off cliffs.


50 posted on 12/18/2010 2:33:08 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Oh yeah, Harry Reid? You and whose army?)
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