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Congress Overturns Ban of Gays Serving Openly, Sends Bill to Obama's Desk
Fox News ^ | Dec. 18, 2010

Posted on 12/18/2010 12:48:49 PM PST by Jess Kitting

Edited on 12/18/2010 1:10:23 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON -- In a landmark vote, the Senate on Saturday ended the Clinton-era ban on gays serving openly in the military, marking a major triumph for President Obama, liberals and the gay community.

The final vote to end the Pentagon's 1993 "don't ask, don't tell" policy was 65-31, drawing support from eight Republicans.

The bill now goes to the White House for Obama's signature. He is expected to sign the bill into law next week, a senior White House aide told Fox News.


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1 posted on 12/18/2010 12:48:50 PM PST by Jess Kitting
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To: Jess Kitting

Huge Pandora’s box has just opened.


2 posted on 12/18/2010 12:50:08 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (WE'RE SCREWED '08)
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To: Jess Kitting

they have no right to compel the United States Armed Forces to accept this


3 posted on 12/18/2010 12:50:32 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: Jess Kitting

sick, just sick


5 posted on 12/18/2010 12:52:29 PM PST by ohiobuckeye1997
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To: Jess Kitting

Can the new congress offer a new bill to make it illegal to be a homosexual in the military?

Merry Christmas


6 posted on 12/18/2010 12:56:19 PM PST by bray (Sarah Palin will destroy the Repub Party, hopefully!)
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To: Jess Kitting

7 posted on 12/18/2010 12:57:32 PM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: Jet Jaguar

As sure as I am that there will be problems, I’m even more certain that we won’t hear about them. No Pentagon stats will be released, or even compiled. Any reported incidents will have any mention of homosexuality washed out.


8 posted on 12/18/2010 12:57:54 PM PST by Red Dog #1
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To: LeoWindhorse

They think that there are no limits to federal power.


9 posted on 12/18/2010 12:59:35 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Jess Kitting
If you wanna have the benefit of being one of those "Protected Class" members (you get benfits and have the Right to claim discrimination), I suggest we all specify that we are "gay", and get it on the record.

Heterosexual White Christians have no protections whatsoever that SPECIFIES they are to be afforded ANYTHING, so maybe it's time we all became "gay" (on paper)?

1/2 /s

Under Obamacare, we can also claim that being a "sex deviate" is a pre-existing condition? LOL

We are now moving into the Greek and Roman Empire-like collapse phase of our Country.

10 posted on 12/18/2010 12:59:57 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Jess Kitting

Disgusting


11 posted on 12/18/2010 1:00:19 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR to pimp your blog!)
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To: bray
Can the new congress offer a new bill to make it illegal to be a homosexual in the military?

It is already against the rules, that was the whole point of don't ask, don't tell. Clinton didn't have the guts to make it legit to serve openly gay, so he created this policy which means the rules won't be enforced as long as you lay low. In other words, we won't ask and if you don't tell us as far as we're concerned we know nothing. But if for some reason we do find out, well, you're out. This is what we've had since the 90s.

12 posted on 12/18/2010 1:00:32 PM PST by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

I hate RINOs.


13 posted on 12/18/2010 1:01:05 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Red Dog #1

The numbers WILL be kept, trust me. And anybody who gets in trouble over this will likely be part of a media feeding frenzy immediately.

This will be trouble.

TC


14 posted on 12/18/2010 1:01:22 PM PST by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: Jess Kitting

I read where someone said ‘you can’t help who you love’. There is no problem with loving but you don’t have to F everyone you love. The point is getting approval to F not to love. Will the military now permit soldiers to F each other in addition to just asking and telling?


15 posted on 12/18/2010 1:01:31 PM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: Jess Kitting

There’s going to be a lot of the gay’s in the military slipping on on a bar of soap, just wait and see.


16 posted on 12/18/2010 1:01:36 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: Blood of Tyrants

...”fundamental transformation of America”...


17 posted on 12/18/2010 1:01:42 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants; stylecouncilor

I fear my country just died.


18 posted on 12/18/2010 1:02:23 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Jess Kitting

Will not allowing gay soldiers to sleep in the same tent or share a bunk bed amount to discrimination ?


19 posted on 12/18/2010 1:02:27 PM PST by libh8er
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To: Jess Kitting
I wonder if America needs a Pinochet to straighten things out?

The world's greatest intellectual, Thomas Sowell, Ph.d, warned that there may come a day when the American military just won't take it anymore.

20 posted on 12/18/2010 1:02:52 PM PST by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: Jess Kitting

Anyone have the names of Republicans voting for this BS?


21 posted on 12/18/2010 1:03:06 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Jess Kitting
I guess Obama cancount on that Hollywood money for 2012 after all. Pure politics is all this is. They don't care about the military and they frankly they don't care about their gays either. This is all about 2012.
22 posted on 12/18/2010 1:03:15 PM PST by americanophile
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To: LeoWindhorse

You are correct. The DoD is not compelled to abolish DADT. This bill leaves it up to their discretion. Or so I read while lurking on a disgruntled DU thread. So I could be wrong, but in this case I think the information is correct. DU tends to be very up to speed on homosexual issues. Since they are angry that the DoD gets the final word, I’m guessing [hoping!] it is true.


23 posted on 12/18/2010 1:03:17 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Jess Kitting
I wonder if America needs a Pinochet to straighten things out?

The world's greatest intellectual, Thomas Sowell, Ph.d, warned that there may come a day when the American military just won't take it anymore.

24 posted on 12/18/2010 1:03:21 PM PST by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: Jess Kitting

Since Obama “is moving hard to the center,” I suppose he’ll veto it?


25 posted on 12/18/2010 1:04:03 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Jess Kitting
DADT may be repealed, but Article 125, Uniform Code of Military Justice is still in force.

"(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration, however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense. (b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall by punished as a court-martial may direct."

Will the military court-martial homosexuals?

26 posted on 12/18/2010 1:04:09 PM PST by Racehorse (Preach the Gospel at all times. If necessary, use words.)
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To: All; Safrguns
Military will have to stand for it. It's under civilian authority.

There are already more than 35 nations with open service by homosexuals in their militaries including our nearest allies like the Brits, Canadians, Aussies and Israelis. Our fighting men (and women) can handle this.

DADT was a poorly conceived policy. The only sensible solutions were open service or no service. The DADT nose-under-the-tent made "no service" to be no option.

Regardless of any actual ill effects of this coming policy change, the political reality will ensure news of any negative outcomes never reaches the People.

27 posted on 12/18/2010 1:04:09 PM PST by newzjunkey (expired "Bush tax cut" = Obama Tax Increase)
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To: onedoug

DON’T fear, You are smart, know THAT IT HAS JUST DIED.

FEAR GOD NOT MAN

Our leaders fear MAN NOT GOD.

The Consequences are around the corner.

It is called weeping and sowing


28 posted on 12/18/2010 1:04:32 PM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: traderrob6

Fragging becomes fagging.


29 posted on 12/18/2010 1:04:37 PM PST by americanophile
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To: Jess Kitting

Keep the names of the ones that were recently voted in with Tea Party backing and fire them the next time around! We MUST show that we mean business about their sticking to their promises. That RAT in AK that is still in office is one of the ones doing this as well as Scott Brown and Kirk out of IL....those other RINOS are well known to all of us!


30 posted on 12/18/2010 1:04:53 PM PST by imfrmdixie
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To: Jess Kitting

So, where is the bill so we can read it?


31 posted on 12/18/2010 1:05:01 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Jess Kitting

I’m not ready to say that this is the death of the country. Geez, get a grip. If one can be repealed, so can another. We just need to oust these fools and get a new prez. Don’t retreat, reload.


32 posted on 12/18/2010 1:05:30 PM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

In addition to the six Republicans who voted for cloture on the repeal bill — Sens. Scott Brown (R-Mass), Susan Collins (R-Alaska), Mark Kirk (R-Ill.), Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska), Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) and George Voinovich (R-Ohio) — Republicans Sens. Richard Burr (N.C.) and John Ensign (Nev.) voted for the final passage of the repeal bill. Collins had co-sponsored the repeal bill.


33 posted on 12/18/2010 1:05:50 PM PST by jessduntno (Care what the Left thinks of you? "Their opinion of me and my policies is irrelevant." - Dick Cheney)
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To: Red Dog #1; All

None of it changes human nature.

They didn’t think of that part.

If they decide now to “out” themselves that will have consequences. You cannot change human nature to fit liberal utopian BS.

DADT protected people in so many ways, mostly from themselves. It was the best solution given the situation Clinton created.

This blunts further America’s sword. We have been dulling it for years.


34 posted on 12/18/2010 1:06:10 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
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To: Jess Kitting

Politico
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1210/46576.html

McCainiac and Graham didn’t have to dirty their hands by voting FOR the bill, as they were assured it already had enough RINO votes to pass.


35 posted on 12/18/2010 1:06:10 PM PST by Matchett-PI (Trent Lott on Tea Party candidates: "As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them" 7/19/10)
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To: Jess Kitting

I wonder if that means it might go back to what it was before DADT, homosexuals were actively searched out and discharged.


36 posted on 12/18/2010 1:06:13 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: bray
Can the new congress offer a new bill to make it illegal to be a homosexual in the military?

If the Republicans in the House have the courage, there are options:

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=40593

37 posted on 12/18/2010 1:06:54 PM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Jess Kitting

The way I see it is if DADT is repealed the military should go back to the old rules. Repealing DADT should not mean a gay can openly serve. Then again, that’s assuming our politicians have brains.


38 posted on 12/18/2010 1:07:02 PM PST by Terry Mross ( Reagan made one mistake: He chose Bush as his veep. We've been paying for it ever since.)
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To: Jess Kitting

The legals of USA have made abortion legal, taken prayer out of schools, legalized homosexuality in military, stealing from taxpayers to give to others has been established, etc, etc, etc.

Satan has come to kill/rob/destroy. That is our enemy and the master of lies/deception has his pawns working at the core to bring our God Bless America down.


39 posted on 12/18/2010 1:08:28 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: jessduntno

They got Collins’ state (ME) wrong - someone probably mistook her for MooCowSki.


40 posted on 12/18/2010 1:08:33 PM PST by jessduntno (Care what the Left thinks of you? "Their opinion of me and my policies is irrelevant." - Dick Cheney)
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To: Jess Kitting

Alright. As of now we no longer have a military fighting force with a mission to defend the U.S. Instead, we have a giant social experiment. I don’t believe for a second that any of these yes-voting senators really have a clue about what they have just done.


41 posted on 12/18/2010 1:08:45 PM PST by ElayneJ
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To: Jess Kitting

Don’t be thilly! Nothing to worry about! Just give me a pink M-Thixteen! I’m ready to thoot!

Move over Marineths! Bruthie ith here!


42 posted on 12/18/2010 1:09:19 PM PST by CWSNTEXAS
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To: LeoWindhorse
they have no right to compel the United States Armed Forces to accept this

Actually, in this country, they have *every* right.

43 posted on 12/18/2010 1:09:23 PM PST by newzjunkey
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To: Red Dog #1

The reports you’ll see in the media will be about the “terrible bigot” knocking the crap out of a gay guy who hit on him. And then all about the “bigot” getting kicked out.


44 posted on 12/18/2010 1:09:25 PM PST by Terry Mross ( Reagan made one mistake: He chose Bush as his veep. We've been paying for it ever since.)
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To: Jess Kitting

I’ve never heard of a real-world homosexual dying to go in the service. And if it is happening outside my ken then I have to question the motive.


45 posted on 12/18/2010 1:09:43 PM PST by Inwoodian
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To: Jess Kitting

DADT repealed my fat arse...it has simply been transferred over.

Now any that are serving in the military, who have a religious or moral belief/objection against homosexuality— they best keep their mouth shut.

Giving one a right that’s not guaranteed under our constitution, while removing one that that was.


46 posted on 12/18/2010 1:10:40 PM PST by Irenic
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To: bray

They could already serve, so long as they didn’t go out of their way to engage in sodomy and otherwise act on their homosexuality. This now lets them do that openly. Disgusting.


47 posted on 12/18/2010 1:10:53 PM PST by Textide
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To: Jess Kitting

With Napolitano as homeland security chief and Obama as Potus who cares about national security...it’s all about political liberal agendas.


48 posted on 12/18/2010 1:10:56 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Not yet - but Scott Brown, Snowe, Collins, and Murkowski were indicating they would vote YES. No surprises.


49 posted on 12/18/2010 1:11:33 PM PST by ElayneJ
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To: Jess Kitting

Every single Republican Senator who voted for this monstrous, immoral, and anti-American piece of anal legislation MUST be defeated. Spare no effort, ever.


50 posted on 12/18/2010 1:11:36 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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