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'Birther' sentenced to six months in prison, kicked out of Army
Stars And Stripes ^ | 12/16/10 | Leo Shane III

Posted on 12/18/2010 2:04:57 PM PST by tricksy

Just hours after being found guilty at his court-martial, Army Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin said he was ashamed and remorseful over his decision to refuse deployment to Afghanistan earlier this year, but he hedged on questions about President Barack Obama's citizenship.

"I don't want [my career] to end this way," a tearful Lakin said to military jurors during the sentencing phase of his trial Wednesday afternoon. "I want to continue to serve ... It crushed me not to be on deployment. I can be on a plane tomorrow. I'd truly do that."

Lakin, a 17-year Army physician, was sentenced to six months in prison and dismissal from the service on Thursday after being found guilty of disobeying orders and ignoring his deployment orders. In April, Lakin posted an online video declaring he would not return to Afghanistan with his unit until questions regarding Obama's birth certificate were answered to his satisfaction. The move made him an instant hero to the birther movement, which helped him raise money for his legal defense.

Obama was born in Hawaii, but questions about his parents and overseas upbringing were raised during his 2008 presidential campaign. Hawaiian officials that year verified the existence of his birth certificate, addressing those issues for all but a fringe group that insists that the president is not legally qualified to serve in the White House...

The 45-year-old physician appeared somber and exhausted from two days in court, and was battered by his own civilian defense lawyer during his sentencing statement.

"Are you done disobeying orders, Col. Lakin?" attorney Neal Puckett angrily asked his client. "You invited this court-martial. You invited this sentence. And for the rest of your life, you get to live with a federal felony conviction."

Lakin sheepishly nodded along....

(Excerpt) Read more at stripes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: birthers; certifigate; conspiracytheory; drlakin; lakin; naturalborncitizen
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1 posted on 12/18/2010 2:05:06 PM PST by tricksy
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To: tricksy
Propaganda.
2 posted on 12/18/2010 2:06:49 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Stupid Obama still lacks the experience needed to be President.)
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To: tricksy
"...Obama was born in Hawaii..."

Prove it...

3 posted on 12/18/2010 2:06:49 PM PST by Mr. K ('Profiling' you is worse than grabbing your balls)
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To: tricksy

"Frank Marshall Davis,You. ARE. the father".


4 posted on 12/18/2010 2:10:55 PM PST by CommieCutter (A Centrist Democrat is now defined as: between Socialism and Communism.)
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To: tricksy

Good god! What is the problem, just prove he is a legitimate president. When did it become wrong to demand to know who the man with his finger on our nuclear arsenal is and what his background is?


5 posted on 12/18/2010 2:12:45 PM PST by JoSixChip (America is dieing, Let's face it, your not going to do anything about it and nether am I.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
"Propaganda."

The protagonist crushed, humiliated, friendless and abandoned. An undeserved and total win for Obozo because I still did not see any proof. So far Obozo wins everything in this department, all at the State's expense.

6 posted on 12/18/2010 2:13:38 PM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: tricksy

Lakin, is paying a steep price for his stance, he put a big bulls eye on his back, the JAG was no way was going to play fair.


7 posted on 12/18/2010 2:15:07 PM PST by boomop1
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To: tricksy

The coward got off easy IMHO


8 posted on 12/18/2010 2:15:35 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: tricksy
I truly feel sorry for this guy. I agree with him totally about his doubts about Obama's constitutional qualifications to serve as president and commander in chief. I also agree with him that it was a mistake for him to try to carry this whole issue on his shoulders and to question the need to comply with orders from superiors.

In January, we will have an opportunity to resolve these questions about Obama in a proper way. Speaker Boehner will have the power to subpoena and secure all of the appropriate documents necessary to resolve this issue.

I would like to see Speaker Boehner do his duty to investigate the constitutional issues and I would like to see Obama use his power to grant this guy some sort of discretionary relief from his sentence.

9 posted on 12/18/2010 2:16:20 PM PST by Walts Ice Pick
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To: Mr. K

“Obama was born in Hawaii, but questions about his parents and overseas upbringing were raised during his 2008 presidential campaign.”

By whom? When? Were those questions raised by one ‘mainstream’ journalist or by one opponent for the Democrat nomination or, for that matter, by John McCain. I only heard those questions raised by ‘birthers.


10 posted on 12/18/2010 2:16:44 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Mr. K

“Hawaiian officials that year verified the existence of his birth certificate,...”

Doublespeak. The document that the Dept. of Health/Hawaii signed said that they have seen the BC. No elaboration on what country it’s from!

Like you say,”prove it”.


11 posted on 12/18/2010 2:19:31 PM PST by panaxanax (IMPEACH THE MUSLIM MARXIST....NOW!!!)
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To: tricksy
So Tricksy, is he a"Natural Born Citizen" or not?

Enquiring minds really would like to know. We know he's the "sitting" President, and so legitimate or not, he IS the CIC. But was it appropriate for him to have stood for the office or not?

Waddawedonow? BTW, Col. Lakin had to know he was going down, so the least he could have done is tough it out on the question. The President is not a "Natural Born citizen." It's the "So what?" that's the tough part of this Constitutional crisis.

12 posted on 12/18/2010 2:20:16 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (America can survive fools in office. It cannot long survive the fools who elect them.)
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To: Walts Ice Pick
"I would like to see Speaker Boehner do his duty to investigate the constitutional issues and I would like to see Obama use his power to grant this guy some sort of discretionary relief from his sentence."

When pigs fly, we've seen what the republican party is made of. If you forgot, just review the last week. Barely even a whimper.
13 posted on 12/18/2010 2:20:51 PM PST by JoSixChip (America is dieing, Let's face it, your not going to do anything about it and nether am I.)
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To: tricksy

Pardon and full restitution will be made; when it is proven the usurper was never eligible to be Commander in Chief.


14 posted on 12/18/2010 2:21:58 PM PST by PoloSec ( Believe how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again the 3rd day)
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To: tricksy
"I don't want [my career] to end this way," a tearful Lakin said to military jurors during the sentencing phase of his trial Wednesday afternoon. "I want to continue to serve ... It crushed me not to be on deployment. I can be on a plane tomorrow. I'd truly do that."

Baloney.

15 posted on 12/18/2010 2:22:42 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: PoloSec
Pardon and full restitution will be made; when it is proven the usurper was never eligible to be Commander in Chief.

Obama could be unmasked and removed tomorrow and Lakin would still be guilty of refusing to obey the lawful orders of three superior officers and with missing movement. No pardon is justified, regardless of who is president, and no restitution will be forthcoming.

16 posted on 12/18/2010 2:24:19 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: montanajoe

Col. Lakin is no coward.

He is man who gave up his entire military career to stand by the Constitutional oath he swore to our country.

Prayers for this American HERO!


17 posted on 12/18/2010 2:26:19 PM PST by panaxanax (IMPEACH THE MUSLIM MARXIST....NOW!!!)
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To: boomop1
Lakin, is paying a steep price for his stance, he put a big bulls eye on his back, the JAG was no way was going to play fair.

Lakin had his website up soliciting contributions even before he was charged with anything. A week or so ago his lawyer was soliciting donations to help support Lakin and his family if he was convicted. It came out in court that even as Lakin was refusing to deploy, forcing another doctor to go in his place on short notice, he was asking if he could still take his pre-deployment leave. There's a lot that just isn't right about this guy.

18 posted on 12/18/2010 2:28:01 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

>> Baloney.

What is it about that statement you repeatedly take issue with?


19 posted on 12/18/2010 2:29:33 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: tricksy

Well, one thing is for certain. Obama has never produced a $12 Long Form Birth Certificate with the doctor and the hospital.

Never, never, EVER. Not ONCE.

What’s the problem if there’s no problem? Why more than 2-1/2 years if there isn’t a problem?

The Nordyke Twins, born August 5, 1961 can do it.

But Obama, who claims August 4, 1961 at the same hospital can not.

Or will not.


20 posted on 12/18/2010 2:30:09 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: PoloSec
Pardon and full restitution will be made; when it is proven the usurper was never eligible to be Commander in Chief.


I doubt it as it isn't Lakin’s responsibility nor the military to determine eligibility of the President. That responsibility lies in other venues. JMO....

21 posted on 12/18/2010 2:30:13 PM PST by deport
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To: Non-Sequitur
“Lakin had his website up soliciting contributions even before he was charged with anything.”

So you are saying he did this for money?

And there is something not right about HIM?

LoL!

22 posted on 12/18/2010 2:31:08 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Stupid Obama still lacks the experience needed to be President.)
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To: tricksy

Obama could have showed his real birth certificate to the court and prevented this.


23 posted on 12/18/2010 2:32:04 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (WE'RE SCREWED '08)
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To: tricksy

Is that you? Lucianne?

You got banned.

What is up?


24 posted on 12/18/2010 2:33:37 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (WE'RE SCREWED '08)
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To: tricksy
I wish the birther argument had never gotten traction ...BUT - it seems to me that this guy was convicted simply for going to far and refusing orders. However, the credibility of Obama was never brought up or proven.

Am I correct?

25 posted on 12/18/2010 2:35:28 PM PST by Baynative (Truth is treason in an empire of lies)
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To: Gene Eric
What is it about that statement you repeatedly take issue with?

The phoniness of it. Lakin made his decision, he should be prepared to live with it. He had is chance to obey his orders, but did not. He had his chance to deploy, but did not. He had his chance to do his duty, but chose not to. There are no do-overs.

26 posted on 12/18/2010 2:35:55 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Hi, non-squirter.
Any input or opinion on this thread?:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2644629/posts


27 posted on 12/18/2010 2:36:08 PM PST by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
So you are saying he did this for money?

I'm sure Lakin's misgivings about Obama are sincere, and he's no different than a lot of us in that area. But I'm not convinced that was his only motivation for doing what he did.

28 posted on 12/18/2010 2:38:28 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: tricksy

Disgraceful.


29 posted on 12/18/2010 2:38:51 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Non-Sequitur

You should identify LTC Lakin as Political Prisoner #1...


30 posted on 12/18/2010 2:39:57 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: Carl LaFong
Any input or opinion on this thread?

Not really, no. We are all here at Jim Robinson's pleasure. I support his authority to set the rules and ban anyone who breaks them.

What did you expect me to say?

31 posted on 12/18/2010 2:40:43 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

When and if( a big one as things stand now) it is established that Obama is not a valid ‘natural born citizen’( which I believe) the dynamics of Lakin’s case and any similar situation will be reexamined. What is there that would prevent a president of a different mindset than Obama from giving Lakin a restoration of rights?


32 posted on 12/18/2010 2:44:22 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: tricksy
Obama was born in Hawaii, but questions about his parents and overseas upbringing were raised during his 2008 presidential campaign. Hawaiian officials that year verified the existence of his birth certificate, addressing those issues for all but a fringe group that insists that the president is not legally qualified to serve in the White House...

There is not a single true statement in that entire paragraph.

Stars and Stripes is printing absolute bald-faced lies.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

33 posted on 12/18/2010 2:44:22 PM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

When and if( a big one as things stand now) it is established that Obama is not a valid ‘natural born citizen’( which I believe) the dynamics of Lakin’s case and any similar situation will be reexamined. What is there that would prevent a president of a different mindset than Obama from giving Lakin a restoration of rights?


34 posted on 12/18/2010 2:44:40 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: bushpilot1
Actually, Lakin was a pawn for those who had no skin in the game.
35 posted on 12/18/2010 2:45:01 PM PST by verity
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To: Non-Sequitur

Some things are not worth hanging your ass out for I would have been nuts denying an assignment with 17 years in.


36 posted on 12/18/2010 2:46:21 PM PST by boomop1
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To: Non-Sequitur
But I'm not convinced that was his only motivation for doing what he did.

You are a reprehensible assassin of character who is unworthy to scoop Lakin's cat's litter box.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

37 posted on 12/18/2010 2:46:42 PM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: tricksy

Now that his career is over, does he wish he had plead not guilty so that he could appeal?


38 posted on 12/18/2010 2:47:08 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Carl LaFong
BTW, Jim Robinson made his position on the Lakin issue clear in a number of posts on this thread: Army birther pleads guilty to 1 of 2 charges

Were you planning on calling him names for saying Lakin got what he deserved as well? Just curious.

39 posted on 12/18/2010 2:47:08 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: F15Eagle

Exactly! How much money has he spent covering these records? A million? Who pays for that? The tax payer? The math makes no sense; a million for a job that pays 400k a year.

Then, Mr. Transparency signs and executive order to seal all his records. Absolute horse crap.


40 posted on 12/18/2010 2:49:18 PM PST by CommieCutter (A Centrist Democrat is now defined as: between Socialism and Communism.)
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To: EDINVA

I believe that Obama was born in Hawaii, but he obviously does not want his birth certificate or any of his other records made public. He has something to hide and the MSM has allowed him to hide it.


41 posted on 12/18/2010 2:49:29 PM PST by carola
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To: tricksy

Lakin has been described as naive, simple, and obsessed. He did not think through the consequences of his actions, but will now have five months at the U.S. Disciplinary Barracks to consider the foolishness of his actions.

The description of Lakin also applies to the Birther Brigaders who inhabit this forum. They are likewise naive, simple, and obsessed. The big difference is that they are free to entertain whatever fantasies excite their imaginations. They have no responsibility for their actions and can safely make incredibly ignorant and stupid remarks. Ain’t the internet great? They gladly cheered Lakin to his doom and gave Lakin lawyer Rolf Jensen the fame and glory he so desperately craved. Lakin learned that those who chose to serve our nation in uniform are not free to engage in personal political stunts. If they wish to do that, they must wait until they hang up the uniform and are released from their obligations to serve.

But the birthers, in their collective obsession and disturbed mental state elevated a man who refused to do his duty to treat our nations wounded soldiers in a combat zone to the level of hero. They then ridiculed and vilified the rest of our nations military because they chose to do their duty. They advocated mutiny by our Armed Forces and opined that they would spit on America’s soldiers. This from people who, for the most part, have never served a day in uniform, can do nothing with the Constitution or military law but twist their words and meaning to fit their warped view of reality. Further, they have no idea where Obama was born, no one does. So, they pick their favorite set of forgeries and suspicious circumstance and insist that the world accept their view. Pathetic.

As much as we would all like to see Obama gone tomorrow, that will not happen and certainly not from the actions of the Birther Brigade set. They are all a bunch of little McClellans, marching their army back and forth but never bringing it to battle. The rest of us will be busy doing the following:

Persuading our state legislatures to adopt a requirement that all candidates for President and Vice President present proof of eligibility as condition to being placed on the ballot.

Working to find a conservative candidate who can run and defeat Mr. Obama in 2012, together with another crop of conservative candidates who can win in the House, the Senate, and the State Houses.

With the Lakin case over, I will let the birthers argue among themselves, they aren’t work any more time and effort.


42 posted on 12/18/2010 2:49:59 PM PST by centurion316
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To: bushpilot1
You should identify LTC Lakin as Political Prisoner #1...

Right now he's just plain old Inmate Lakin at USDB Leavenworth.

43 posted on 12/18/2010 2:51:38 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: The Comedian
You are a reprehensible assassin of character who is unworthy to scoop Lakin's cat's litter box.

I'm sure you'll volunteer to.

44 posted on 12/18/2010 2:52:57 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: EDINVA

By whom? When? Were those questions raised by one ‘mainstream’ journalist or by one opponent for the Democrat nomination or, for that matter, by John McCain. I only heard those questions raised by ‘birthers.


Phillip Berg, the original birther, is a Democrat and was supporting Hillary Clinton in the Democratic Primaries.
Both the Clinton and McCain campaigns said that they investigated the charges and found nothing to use against Obama.


45 posted on 12/18/2010 2:55:01 PM PST by jamese777
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To: noinfringers2
When and if( a big one as things stand now) it is established that Obama is not a valid ‘natural born citizen’( which I believe) the dynamics of Lakin’s case and any similar situation will be reexamined.

But as has been pointed out on numerous occasions, Obama could be unmasked and removed from office tomorrow and Lakin would still be guilty of the charges he faced.

46 posted on 12/18/2010 2:55:14 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

No-That’s what I expected you to say.
Have the courage to express your convictions.


47 posted on 12/18/2010 2:55:54 PM PST by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)
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To: centurion316

Excellent. Best summary ever at this forum.


48 posted on 12/18/2010 2:56:46 PM PST by Jacquerie (Islam is a barbaric social and political system in religious drag.)
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To: Carl LaFong
Have the courage to express your convictions.

I just did.

Have you the courage to take Jim Robinson to task for agreeing that Lakin got what was coming to him?

49 posted on 12/18/2010 2:57:16 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur; The Comedian
If a man's livelihood and impending imprisonment depended on your input, would you oblige? Would you show the court your birth records?
50 posted on 12/18/2010 2:58:03 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (WE'RE SCREWED '08)
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