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Senate Repeals ĎDonít Ask, Donít Tellí
New York Times ^ | DEcenber 18, 2010 | Carl Hulse

Posted on 12/18/2010 6:57:49 PM PST by lbryce

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To: lbryce

I see many upcoming instances of the the true meaning of my fellow Marine’s “Blanket Party” in the future.


51 posted on 12/18/2010 8:27:13 PM PST by IrishPennant (No one cares how much you know until they know how much you care...."Me")
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To: lbryce

I predict that in the near future, to reject or rebuff the “advances” of a queer same-sex “comrade in arms,” whether male or female, will be prosecuted as a hate crime!


52 posted on 12/18/2010 8:34:27 PM PST by Tucker39
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To: lbryce

The government, and the military heirarchy, have now declared OPEN SEASON on “straights.”


53 posted on 12/18/2010 8:35:30 PM PST by Tucker39
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To: CincyRichieRich

CRR: “Why isn’t anyone talking about the possibility/probability of overturning it in the House when our new folks get in there in January?”

Because it cannot be overturned in January. President Obama will veto any attempt in the unlikely chance we get a new DADT through the sodomite sympathizers in the senate.


54 posted on 12/18/2010 8:40:55 PM PST by CitizenUSA (Consider me a "Domestic Extremist" for believing, "Land of the Free, Home of the Brave!")
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To: lbryce
Today, you have done an injustice.

Indeed. My personal prediction is that this will result in quite an increase in violence against gays in the military. There will be those in the service who will see this as something distasteful being forced upon them. There are gays who will take the 'in your face' stance and there will be reactions.

55 posted on 12/18/2010 8:44:35 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Inspiration. The momentary cessation of stupidity.)
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To: Dick Bachert
“To the Rear March” will be replaced with “OK, Fellas, Turn Around;”


56 posted on 12/18/2010 8:50:24 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Inspiration. The momentary cessation of stupidity.)
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To: xtinct

Of the eight Republicans who voted for the repeal, the only two that really surprise me are Richard Burr (NC)John Ensign (NV).

The rest don’t surprise me at all.


57 posted on 12/18/2010 8:53:20 PM PST by MplsSteve (Governor Mark Dayton? That's so incredibly alarming, don't you think?)
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To: lbryce

was this gay thing rammed through?


58 posted on 12/18/2010 8:57:26 PM PST by woofie
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To: djf
They want to be able to broadcast to the whole world about their perversions.

Well now Congress says that's ok. I suggest they try it and see where it gets them.

59 posted on 12/18/2010 9:00:20 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Inspiration. The momentary cessation of stupidity.)
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To: GenXteacher; puppypusher
“Prepare for a reactivation of the Selective Service System.The Only way the military is going to meet its manpower needs is with a Draft.That was Probably the plan all along.”

Well, then we can throw the “Hell no, we won’t go” thing right back at them.


My father is so upset at the direction we are heading, it is not just this but in general, he said that if he were drafted, he "would not defend the country" and either just go to jail or Canada. This is really sad to see it come to this. B-( At least he's 73 now. He did his time in the Army, served in Korea in the mid 1950's. I am 44, I wish I was 20 years younger, but with this, I think I'll stay at 44. B-P Some might think I'm wrong but if the Pentagon allows this, some say it is still at their discretion, I would not advise anyone to go into the military at all, at best, join an unorganized militia instead.
60 posted on 12/18/2010 9:05:18 PM PST by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: satan
“Join the Army - test positive for AIDS/HIV - draw 100% disability for the rest of your miserable life.”

For those who do not understand what that means, let me explain. A life time check of around $41,000 per year, free drugs and free medical care, all on your tax dollar. There are vets injured in Iraq that get less in VA benefits.

With the levels of syphilis, HIV and STDs imagine YOUR cost to allow gays to bugger each other while on active duty. With STDs and HIV you cannot deploy to certain countries which means they can hang out at the local bath house while other men die for their country.

61 posted on 12/18/2010 9:11:37 PM PST by OldGoatCPO
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To: lbryce
Heard inside the beltway: We'll give you the tax bill if you give us the DADT repeal.
62 posted on 12/18/2010 9:14:29 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (oy. Again I say, oy.)
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To: Enterprise
I agree. DADT was a compromise, but liberals always get their foot in the door until the time they can get what they want. I would prefer an outright ban on homosexuals serving in the military.

I like this quote:

"When brute force is on the march, compromise is the red carpet." Ayn Rand
63 posted on 12/18/2010 9:16:29 PM PST by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: Enterprise
I agree. DADT was a compromise, but liberals always get their foot in the door until the time they can get what they want. I would prefer an outright ban on homosexuals serving in the military.

I like this quote:

"When brute force is on the march, compromise is the red carpet." Ayn Rand
64 posted on 12/18/2010 9:16:37 PM PST by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: Nowhere Man

Sorry for the double post.


65 posted on 12/18/2010 9:18:36 PM PST by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: woofie

lol. Certainly feels like it. Ouch!


67 posted on 12/18/2010 10:54:58 PM PST by lbryce (Obama Notwithstanding, America's Best Days Are Yet To Be .)
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To: lbryce

Congress is not tone deaf, they are stupid. This opens the door to huge problems. I foresee a rash of “hate speech” charges, sexual harassment, spread of aids, housing problems, etc, etc. What a bunch of SOBs.


68 posted on 12/18/2010 11:01:57 PM PST by Dapper 26
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To: lbryce

Is this journalistic malpractice?

Before DADT, recruiters did ask, and affirmative answers meant that person was not getting into the military.

DADT meant the question wasn’t asked... but if homosexuality was discovered otherwise, they were processed for discharge.

For 17 years, the MSM has been purposefully misrepresenting DADT as if gays were allowed to join before it went into effect—the truth is, they never were.

This is a bad idea. Keeping gays out of the military has nothing to do with discrimination, and everything to do with protecting people. There are just too many situations in the military where there is no privacy, but at least men and women are segregated. Putting gays and straights together in those situations is no different than having coed dressing rooms, or showers. In some respects, it may be worse.


69 posted on 12/18/2010 11:20:23 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: lbryce

a policy critics said amounted to government-sanctioned discrimination that treated gay, lesbian and bisexual troops as second-class citizens. Mr. Obama hailed...

Oh the humanity


70 posted on 12/19/2010 12:53:23 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: satan

Join the Army - test positive for AIDS/HIV - draw 100% disability for the rest of your miserable life.

If you don’t believe me check the VA regulations.

!!!


71 posted on 12/19/2010 12:54:12 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Texas Fossil
At issue is a pending vote in the Senate on repealing Section 654 of Title X of the U.S. Code. This law, on the books since 1993, states: "The presence in the armed forces of persons who demonstrate a propensity or intent to engage in homosexual acts would create an unacceptable risk to the high standards of morale, good order and discipline, and unit cohesion that are the essence of military capability."

Repeal of the law as noted above does not repeal the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ).

The UCMJ was passed by Congress on 5 May 1950, signed into law by President Harry S. Truman, and became effective on 31 May 1951.

Article 125 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice:

“(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration, however slight, is sufficient 
to complete the offense.

(b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall by punished as a court-martial may direct.”

The oath taken by every president on first entering office is specified in Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution:

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.

US Constitution

Section. 8.

Clause 14:
[ The Congress shall have Power] To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;


Note that Congress has prohibited sodomy in the military through the UCMJ. All of the hoopla concerning the 1993 law is just that. Commanders, including the “Commander-in-Chief,” are obligated by their sacred oaths to enforce the rules and regulations made and promulgated by Congress for the US military.

What remains to be seen is whether the current “Commander-in-Chief” will adhere to his oath and require subordinate officers to do the same.
72 posted on 12/19/2010 5:17:36 AM PST by Lucky Dog
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To: lbryce
"voted to strike down the ban on gay men and lesbians serving openly in the military"

I believe that they have passed another half baked law. There needs to be a differentiation between those people who are genuinely gay and those that are bisexual, tri-sexual, having sex with baked goods, or other forms of sex addictions that often times masquerade as "gay".

Those people who are mentally unstable have no place around loaded weapons or classified information regardless of their gender confusion. It will be up to the military to sort them out.

73 posted on 12/19/2010 5:38:15 AM PST by oldbrowser (Blaming the prince of fools shouldn't blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that elected him)
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To: lbryce
“We righted a wrong,” said Senator Joseph I. Lieberman,...

No Senator, you have wronged a right to be secure in your person. You have told Onan where to put his seed.

74 posted on 12/19/2010 5:53:43 AM PST by depressed in 06 (The only thing the ZerO administration is competent at is bad ideas.)
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To: djf
DADT itself was a compromise.

Chip, chip, chip. Progressive incramentalism on display yeat again for everyone to see. These people are very patient. 17 years to get this one through.

I wonder if this means they'll do away with separate bathing facilities for male and female soldiers? Sexual orientation doesn't matter, right?

75 posted on 12/19/2010 6:31:58 AM PST by Thermalseeker (If I print money it's counterfeiting. If the Fed prints money it's quantitative easing?)
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To: jortoro

No, I’m saying that everyone has the ability to control themselves. Homosexuality is not something beyond a persons control. It is an orientation, a lifestyle choice.

Thousands get molested and only a few manifest it as homosexuality. Homosexuality is a form of permanent sexual immaturity. It was and remains a sexual deviancy and a psychological disorder, despite opposite claims.

Take a listen here and learn how homosexuality came to be removed from the list of sexual deviancies by the American Psychiatric Association (APA): http://www.thisamericanlife.org/sites/all/play_music/play_full.php?play=204

It had nothing to do with science. It was an emotional and political act manipulated by a secret cabal of homosexual activists.

Welcome to Free Republic.


76 posted on 12/19/2010 6:43:57 AM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: Antoninus

“Like that will stop them. They will come for your kids and they won’t take no for an answer”

They have to have a military to take that approach. If they are having manpower trouble to start with, that would make enforcing their will problematic.


77 posted on 12/19/2010 8:41:22 AM PST by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

LOL. Great pic but that looks rather like, “Forward MINCE” to me.


78 posted on 12/19/2010 9:31:19 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: lbryce
bringing to a close a 17-year struggle over a policy that forced thousands of Americans from the ranks and caused others to keep secret their sexual orientation.

LMAO!!!!

The leftist LIARS. Homosexual sex has ALWAYS been illegal in the military as are any number of perverted or disruptive activities.

79 posted on 12/21/2010 10:00:08 AM PST by DBeers (†)
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