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Gay troops unleash emotions at end of long fight (Kick the RINOs out of the GOP!)
washington post ^ | 12/19/2010 | By Ernesto Londono

Posted on 12/19/2010 7:28:10 AM PST by tobyhill

The gay Army lieutenant's heart had been racing all night.

Shuffling between meetings at his outpost in eastern Afghanistan on Saturday night, the 27-year-old officer kept popping his head into the main office to catch a glimpse of Fox News's coverage of the Senate debate that led to a vote lifting the ban on gay men and lesbians serving in the military openly.

"Don't cry," a 21-year-old specialist, one of the lieutenant's confidants, told his boss jokingly when news broke that 65 senators had voted to repeal "don't ask, don't tell."

"I'm completely numb," was all the lieutenant could mutter.

Across the world, other gay troops whose lives, careers and relationships have been indelibly, if sometimes quietly, shaped by the ban reacted to the news with a mixture of rapture and disbelief.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dadt; homoagendaalert; homosexualagenda

1 posted on 12/19/2010 7:28:15 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

“”Don’t cry,” a 21-year-old specialist, one of the lieutenant’s confidants” said.

I bet he is happy to serve under him. I love it when they put in all the straight lines for me.


2 posted on 12/19/2010 7:33:00 AM PST by Mouton
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To: tobyhill

Well I guess you know what’s next. I guess I can marry that Horse I saw the other day she sure was cute a little on the tall side but what the hell.


3 posted on 12/19/2010 7:35:02 AM PST by Rappini ("Pro deo et Patria.)
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To: tobyhill
Shuffling between meetings at his outpost in eastern Afghanistan on Saturday night, the 27-year-old officer kept popping his head into the main office to catch a glimpse of Fox News's coverage of the Senate debate

Sure glad this moron was giving full attention to his mission over there.

4 posted on 12/19/2010 7:37:00 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Mouton

From the article:

“The stakes were also high for the specialist. His brother is gay and had vowed to join the Air Force if the policy were repealed this year. Their father is also gay, which made attending military events somewhat awkward for the family.”

“It just made for a weird situation,” he said.


5 posted on 12/19/2010 7:37:33 AM PST by DesignerChick
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To: tobyhill

I call the story balderdash.


6 posted on 12/19/2010 7:37:51 AM PST by Irish Queen (Four Corner Irish)
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To: tobyhill

Rapture, eh? What kind of people pay to get this propaganda delivered to their homes?


7 posted on 12/19/2010 7:38:02 AM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: tobyhill

Don’t cry. Now the law pertaining to Sodomy in the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) does not apply to you. You can do anything you want now. The Senate, the President and the Military Brass all know this is a “great day” for our war-fighters...Next they need to overturn the laws in place that restrict all deviant behavior. Wasn’t that the message just sent to our troops and the world? Idiots. Wikileaks is the tip of the iceberg for these politically correct fools. You think a gay is loyal to serve or loyal about trolling for more deviant sexual contact. Hey Joe Lieberman...why are you smiling so much about this? You moron. Now Obama can appoint an openly gay CNO, Commandant and Joint Chief and they will obey Obama’s commands to wage war against the US heterosexual population.

§ 925. Art. 125. Sodomy
(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration, however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense.
(b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.


8 posted on 12/19/2010 7:45:10 AM PST by Chuck N
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To: tobyhill
O thith iz juth tho thpecial!
9 posted on 12/19/2010 7:46:21 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (oy. Again I say, oy.)
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To: tobyhill
The stakes were also high for the specialist. His brother is gay and had vowed to join the Air Force if the policy were repealed this year. Their father is also gay, which made attending military events somewhat awkward for the family. "It just made for a weird situation," he said
His brother and father are gay and he thinks the military events are awkward... Really? This has got to be a joke.
10 posted on 12/19/2010 7:52:23 AM PST by Roux (Ignorance can be cured but stupid is forever.)
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To: tobyhill
His brother is gay...Their father is also gay

"I feel that I'm passed over [for promotion] because I am gay."

West Point Army captain who resigned from active duty this spring after wrestling for years with deprivation, loneliness and half-truths.

Speechless, with a sick feeling in the pit of my gut.

11 posted on 12/19/2010 7:54:14 AM PST by NautiNurse (ObamaCare uses Bernie Madoff theory of economics)
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To: tobyhill
"The majority of younger, rank-and-file guys will be fine with it," said Marine Capt. Tom Garnett, who is straight and a reservist at a Virginia law school. "But we are a conservative service, and one angry Marine makes a lot more noise than 30 ambivalent Marines."

There will not be 30 aqmbivalent Marines. I've rarely encountered a Marine who was ambivalent about anything. More likely, they will be seething with quiet anger.

By the 2012 elections we'll know the impact repealing DADT has had in each branch of military service. I don't think it is the loud, angry people who will teach us. It will be the quiet ones with families who just might not sign those reenlistment papers next time.

12 posted on 12/19/2010 7:54:36 AM PST by Racehorse (Preach the Gospel at all times. If necessary, use words.)
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To: tobyhill

If someone came down from another planet and just watched our media they would imagine that fully half of our population was homosexual. And they would probably wonder where all of the babies were coming from.


13 posted on 12/19/2010 7:58:42 AM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: DesignerChick
“The stakes were also high for the specialist. His brother is gay and had vowed to join the Air Force if the policy were repealed this year. Their father is also gay, which made attending military events somewhat awkward for the family.” “It just made for a weird situation,” he said.

Maybe it's me but this situation was weird without DADT

14 posted on 12/19/2010 8:00:35 AM PST by JrsyJack (a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
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To: Mouton

“”Don’t cry,” a 21-year-old specialist, one of the lieutenant’s confidants” said
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =Confidants.....Is that what they are calling ‘them’ these days?
The statement alone would be enough to bring fraternization charges against both ===BUT you can’t trust what the press prints anymore, more than likely the ‘writer’ was trying to be cute/coy in the same breath.

Guess both of them went back to the barracks to ‘celebrate’ their victory.
I hope so...
Then they will be able to bounce the both of them.

Or is their a difference in ‘their kind’ fraternizing than ‘regular people’.

If a ‘straight’ LT had been involved in this story, the way it is being presented, there would have been some Office Hours waiting for them.


15 posted on 12/19/2010 8:01:14 AM PST by xrmusn ((6/98))
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To: tobyhill

Oh Jeez

Want to bet NO ONE will be asking but a whole loy of drama queens will be TELLING. The quavering lip Lieutenant obviously had an enlisted “confidante”

eeeww


16 posted on 12/19/2010 8:04:51 AM PST by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: Racehorse
By the 2012 elections we'll know the impact repealing DADT has had in each branch of military service.

I predict that by the 2012 elections the head of the Joint Chiefs will be a limp wristed, cross dressing faggot. Obama will see to that.

17 posted on 12/19/2010 8:15:25 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: tobyhill

Since, DumBO has made sure I have time off from pursuing a wage, I have time to become resident in other states for the purpose of ensuring certain people have no ability to destroy the country.

In that vane, how long must I live in Maine to establish residency to vote?


18 posted on 12/19/2010 8:21:32 AM PST by depressed in 06 (The only thing the ZerO administration is competent at is bad ideas.)
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To: Irish Queen

I call the story balderdash.

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Agreed. Gilding the pansies here.


19 posted on 12/19/2010 8:23:40 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans - don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Here is what I don’t understand. I am against this wholeheartedly for other reasons, but what I don’t get is, why would someone who knows they are going into combat situations care about whether the dude next to him has a nice ass?

If you are willing to fight and die for your country, I would think sodomy is the last thing someone is interested in. The US military isn’t a dating service. There is a mission and first and foremost that mission has to be followed.

Now my problem with this is twofold. The first is AIDS. I am not going to stick my hands in a wounded soldiers gut, knowing that I can contract a disease and die because of a lifestyle choice.

The second is this is being done to homosexualize the bureaucracy. Just like the municipal unions and other government agencies. You control the infrastructure you control the system.


20 posted on 12/19/2010 8:31:36 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Remember March 23, 1775. Remember March 23, 2010)
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To: tobyhill
This story is a Steaming Pant load!
21 posted on 12/19/2010 8:45:39 AM PST by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

It is an issue, and will be, because their homosexuality defines them.

If you ever listen to a homosexual describe themselves honestly to someone else, their sexual orientation is always at the top of the list.

I think people who spend time with others in close quarters for extended periods of time care about a lot of things.

Imagine all the dislikes and vendettas people have against each other in the military for a multitude of reasons. Now throw homosexual sex and homosexuality into that situation.

I don’t have a hard time imagining at all various aspects of it that people will have issues with.

But, as I said on other threads, the biggest long term problem here is that this is a part of a concerted efforts by liberals to destroy the military and normalize homosexuality.

Most people don’t understand the threat that open homosexuality poses to security, and it was highlighted in the Wikileaks incident.

Everyone is saying “How did this low level enlisted guy get his hands on so much classified material?” The simple explanation (and usually the right one) is that the security clearance and storage systems are so mangled, underfunded and poorly implemented that if it hadn’t been this guy, it could have been a thousand other people.

But another explanation could be a homosexual affair with someone who had higher clearance, coupled with blackmail. It is probably the oldest trick in the book.

Supporters of repealing DADT maintain that if homosexuality is normalized, this type of vulnerability will disappear because there will be no official stigma associated with it.

The problem with that view is that most people understand homosexuality is a perversion and not a normal, natural situation. Even if it is accepted by some governing agency (like the military) there are ALWAYS going to be people engaging in homosexuality who don’t want anyone to know, their families, friends, workplace, etc.

On a non-security/non-military level, this is simply a great, big, huge wedge, societally and legally, a massive bulldozer by the homosexual community to legitimize homosexuality and homosexual marriage.

If they win on this, every single piece of legislation out there that is viewed as unfair or limiting in some way by homosexual activists will fall like a house of cards, and they damn well know it. It will set a legal precedent for all aspects of society to be forcefully accessible to open homosexuality, from Scoutmasters to the Oval Office.


22 posted on 12/19/2010 8:55:34 AM PST by rlmorel ("If this doesn't light your fire, Men, the pilot light's out!"...Coach Ed Bolin)
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To: Roux

His father is gay?

Really?

I wonder how he managed to make two sons...


23 posted on 12/19/2010 8:57:18 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: tobyhill

The end is nigh.....


24 posted on 12/19/2010 9:05:41 AM PST by cranked
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To: EQAndyBuzz
"...but what I don’t get is, why would someone who knows they are going into combat situations care about whether the dude next to him has a nice ass?"

Because when a unit is going into combat or on patrol, every thought and every sense must be focused on perceiving the enemy. A moment's hesitation or distraction may make the difference of an adversarial use of deadly force killing a friendly, and worse deciding a battle.

There are many, many, many things which may appear reasonable off the battlefield, which are never allowed anywhere near the deployed station to avoid such distractions to the thinking of the Marine/soldier in combat.

I have no doubt one could rationalize alcohol or drugs on the front lines, claiming those personnel under intense stress needed to relax periodically. On the contrary, the policy of no intoxicants whatsoever reinforces the ability to remain alert at all times in the event of immanent action.

When going into combat, even from the smallest infantry unit, each member has different functions which are reinforced by one another. The thoughts of each member focus upon their duties and having a homosexual in close proximity exposes multiple distractions to a righteous and just soldier/Marine/sailor/airman performing their duties.

Homosexuals are NOT trustworthy, nor faithful. Their entire modus operendi is to satiate their personal desires without respect for their fellow man and in blatant disregard for legality of their criminal behavior. They have honed their skills to hide criminal thinking, decisions and actions from the perceptions of others.

This is why homosexuality has been one of the key disqualifiers for security clearances, not only in the military, but especially in the intelligence community. In the last 20 years they have snuck in and formed clandestine communities ripe for extortion and treasonous behavior. Where they exist, have no doubt there are conspiracies and plots to remain undetected but to subvert the freedoms and legitimate behavior normal life for their personal interpretations of how they want society to live without respecting the majority view.

25 posted on 12/19/2010 9:06:19 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Irish Queen
I call the story balderdash.

is that the same as bullshit? Then I agree.

This and other stories like it that I have read today make it sound as though the faggots are already in the majority.

26 posted on 12/19/2010 9:20:54 AM PST by Americanexpat
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To: Racehorse

There is a world of difference between those going in the Reserves and those who go directly active. Reserves=Education first Active=Military first.


27 posted on 12/19/2010 9:24:46 AM PST by panthermom
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To: tobyhill

28 posted on 12/19/2010 9:27:11 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Hey, Barack "Hubris" Obama, what are you hiding? Release your Birth Certificate!)
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To: Mouton

Fraternization between officers and enlisted is a no-no. This will cause disciplinary problems whenever there is a breakup and they are in the same unit.

Wait till they start fragging their own.


29 posted on 12/19/2010 9:27:29 AM PST by Surrounded_too
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To: Americanexpat

As I have heard many times, if God doesn’t punish this country for this abomination then He owes Sodom and Gamorrah an apology. My money is on a quick and severe response, and soon...


30 posted on 12/19/2010 9:27:29 AM PST by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: tobyhill
Isn't this a great example of American values to share with Afghans and Iraqis. I am sure the Muslims will want to be our friends now that they know the fundamentals of our western morals, and renewed willingness to surrender their warring ways to a bunch of girly men with guns.
31 posted on 12/19/2010 10:02:52 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: DesignerChick
“The stakes were also high for the specialist. His brother is gay and had vowed to join the Air Force if the policy were repealed this year. Their father is also gay, which made attending military events somewhat awkward for the family.”

Apparently, their father is bi.

Sick.

32 posted on 12/19/2010 10:07:48 AM PST by behzinlea
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Get ready to see male soldiers holding hands, cupping buttocks, kissing, etc...in uniform.

Get ready to see gay, pink shorts wearing and hair-ribboned loved ones welcoming their soldiers back.

And all of this will lead to a ban on any type of display of affection...which will lead to open acrimony, etc.

Don’t even want to think about the lawsuits and assaults resulting from soldiers (both straight & gay) serving in the foxholes of Afghanistan and elsewhere.

Satan must be throwing a milestone party tonight.


33 posted on 12/19/2010 10:13:27 AM PST by papasmurf (sudo apt-get install Lee Atwater)
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To: tobyhill

What’s going to happen to these gay guys when they start wearing eye liner and lipstick while on duty?


34 posted on 12/19/2010 10:22:00 AM PST by killermosquito (Buffalo (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: Racehorse

Military Times conducts an annual survey of its readership; most of the respondents are career officers and NCOs. When the latest survey was released about a year ago, they trumpeted the fact that many military members didn’t seem to have a problem with the repeal of DADT.

But if you dig a little deeper into the numbers, you’ll see the real impact of yesterday’s decision. Almost one-quarter of the survey’s participants said they would consider not re-enlisting if gays were allowed to serve openly.

Now, imagine the impact if only 10 or 15% of our most experienced officers and NCOs decide to leave. These are the people you need to conduct combat ops, support troops in the field, analyze intel and perform a thousand other functions required to support the war effort. I don’t care how many “gay volunteers” sign up, you won’t be able to replace the lost experience for years.

Then, there’s the impact on recruiting. Where do most of our troops come from? I’ll give you a hint: it isn’t San Francisco, New York, or other metropolitan areas. The vast majority of our new soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines come from rural areas where many still view homosexuality as a sin and don’t like the idea of gays serving in our military. The job of meeting our enlistment quotas just became more difficult.

During my 20+ years as a military officer, I had at least two NCOs who were gay. Both were outstanding airmen, and I saw no reason to “out” them. What they did during their off-duty time wasn’t my concern—as long as it didn’t impact the readiness, morale and discipline of the unit. The gay NCOs who worked for me understood that and conducted themselves accordingly.

But yesterday’s ruling isn’t for those individuals. It’s aimed at the gay activist community, who want to use the military as a social experiment and advance their own agenda.


35 posted on 12/19/2010 10:38:23 AM PST by ExNewsExSpook
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To: killermosquito

Panties, g-strings?


36 posted on 12/19/2010 10:39:47 AM PST by Gator113 (Sarah Palin can win, and she will win.)
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To: DesignerChick

“Damn, fella, don’t anybody in your family like girls?”

“Yeah — my sister!”


37 posted on 12/19/2010 11:06:35 AM PST by GadareneDemoniac
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To: tobyhill
Remember the names in red.

Grouped By Vote Position

YEAs ---65
Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Begich (D-AK)
Bennet (D-CO)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Brown (R-MA)

Burr (R-NC)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Coons (D-DE)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Ensign (R-NV)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Franken (D-MN)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Hagan (D-NC)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kirk (R-IL)

Klobuchar (D-MN)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Merkley (D-OR)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Snowe (R-ME)

Specter (D-PA)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Udall (D-CO)
Udall (D-NM)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (D-VA)
Webb (D-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)
NAYs ---31
Alexander (R-TN)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Kyl (R-AZ)
LeMieux (R-FL)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Wicker (R-MS)
Not Voting - 4
Bunning (R-KY)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hatch (R-UT)
Manchin (D-WV)

Snowe, Ensign, Brown, Ensign and Hatch are up in 2012.

Collins is up in 2014.

Burr is not up till 2016 (he thinks we'll forget)

38 posted on 12/19/2010 12:10:24 PM PST by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Pikachu_Dad
"I wonder how he managed to make two sons..."

It's been done. I remember my shock at learning that actor Robert Reed, dad on the Brady bunch, had died of AIDS. He had a marriage in his past and a grown daughter. Directer Tony Richardson, academy award for film Tom Jones, had three daughters by two woman and also died of AIDS.

39 posted on 12/19/2010 1:32:01 PM PST by Mila
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To: silverleaf; All

“Want to bet NO ONE will be asking but a whole loy of drama queens will be TELLING. The quavering lip Lieutenant obviously had an enlisted “confidante””

The new Army.......Pederists and catamites.


40 posted on 12/19/2010 6:06:56 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: killermosquito

That will be the uniform of the day.


41 posted on 12/19/2010 7:35:56 PM PST by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: Mouton

LIke “the visions of sugar plum fairies” in the Christmas story . . . “ Such will thrill the American people.


42 posted on 12/19/2010 7:40:54 PM PST by Theodore R. (Rush was right when he said America may survive Obama but not the Obama supporters.)
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To: markomalley

We know too that quite a few of the “nays” were “yes” in their hearts. I am surprised that Orrin G. Hatch did not step up to the plate and vote as he “feels.” He may not trust UT people, but they have never failed him!


43 posted on 12/19/2010 7:43:03 PM PST by Theodore R. (Rush was right when he said America may survive Obama but not the Obama supporters.)
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To: Mouton

I will go out ona limb and opine that “serving” won’t be the only thing he will be doing under him.

I shed some tears myself after the news that this bill passed was released, but it was for America.

I don’t like it,but, evidently a majority of those that voted does, else they would not have elected Democrats and RINO Republicans.

And Lisa, Alaska’s own darling is already making her constituents proud that they voted for her.


44 posted on 12/19/2010 7:43:41 PM PST by sport
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To: depressed in 06

The issue has been federalized. It’s 30 days for processing time. You must show a utility bill or other evidence of residence when registering. But there is no time factor any more. At one time, MS required two years in the state and a year in the county.


45 posted on 12/19/2010 7:47:00 PM PST by Theodore R. (Rush was right when he said America may survive Obama but not the Obama supporters.)
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To: papasmurf

You are right, Satan is thrilled with the American people and their voting choices. They would have even shocked Stalin if he were still around to observe.


46 posted on 12/19/2010 7:49:29 PM PST by Theodore R. (Rush was right when he said America may survive Obama but not the Obama supporters.)
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To: killermosquito

Promotions.


47 posted on 12/19/2010 7:49:35 PM PST by sport
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