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Posted on 12/19/2010 12:17:44 PM PST by ConservativeStatement
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General Patton's death was under questionable circumstances and he was a 'controversial' figure but I see no hard evidence of an assassination conspiracy. Frankly, after 65 years, even if Patton was killed because he was publicly opposed to Democrat presidents too-cozy accommodations with the then-dangerous Soviet Union, it is virtually impossible to prove and, 65 years later, there is no one left to prosecute. Interesting theory - but hardly worth pursuing.
Exactly, Roosevelt had no problem with communists nor communism. He was always busy trying to figure out how to incorporate its principles into our representative republic.
The media hated him which was a pretty good sign.
Well, yes, it is worth pursuing, from the standpoint that there’s always a war above the war that most see, and it’s much more viscous, interesting and important for the future.
And recall how Obama mentioned "57 states", which is 47 plus 10, the number of the horns of the Beast of Revelation?
And 57 +47 = 104, and 104 FM plays easy-listening mellow rock you can listen to at home, at the office, or on the road? And they played commercials for Lincoln car dealership Kennedy Pontiac?
We're through the looking glass here people...
I once read the detailed story of Patton’s last days. One thing which differs from the story here is that his driver was driving recklessly.
The guy who drove Patton all through the war was from Abbeville, Alabama and never had an accident. He had gone home just before the accident and Patton got a young reckless driver which Patton, of course just loved.
The accident was just that, an accident. Patton was extremely unlucky as he was the only one seriously hurt.
At first he did not do well then a Scottish Doctor was called in and ordered hooks be attached to Patton’s cheekbones which had weights attached to them. This worked and his neck eventually straightened out.
Just as it looked like Patton was going to recover, he had a sudden setback and died.
The only place I can see where there may have been a conspiracy/murder was at the very last but I doubt even that.
There is one interesting possibility. Patton ordered that Beadle Smith not be allowed at his funeral. I think Smith was in fact sympathetic to the Communists and was in a position of great power.
Oh you're no fun anymore.
Patton was obviously killed because the person he was riding with that day was Gay.
Yep, that make sense.
I’ve got a copy of that prayer in my wallet. It was given to me by Patton’s granddaughter at a dinner in Luxembourg celebrating the 60th anniversary of VE day. My Dad, who served in Patton’s Ghost Troops, still has his original. You should have seen the look on her face when she offered him a copy, only to have him reach into his wallet and pull out his original!
The war museum in Bastogne is amazing.
For anyone who hasn’t read the entire card:
To each officer and soldier in the Third United States Army. I wish a Merry Christmas. I have full confidence in your courage, devotion to duty, and skill in battle. We march in our might to complete victory. May God’s blessing rest upon each of you on the Christmas Day.
G. S. Patton, JR.
Commanding, Third United States Army
Almighty and most merciful Father, we humbly beseech thee, of Thy great goodness, to restrain these immoderate rains with which we have had to contend. Grant us fair weather for Battle. Graciously hearken to us as soldiers who call upon Thee that armed with Thy power, we may advance from victory to victory, and crush the oppression and wickedness of our enemies, and establish Thy justice amoung men and nations.
No from behind
Yep : )
The chair Lincoln was sitting in when he was shot is on display at (you guessed it) Henry Ford museum’s Greenfield village like some kind of grisly trophy.
The answer is obvious, the car companies were behind his assassination.
Let’s start at square one. Has anyone actually seen Patton’s birth certificate?
Well, yes and no. I admire his aggressive use of shock and speed. I admire his 'American-ness'. I admire him seeing through the Soviets.
I don't admire his insistence on neckties and shined boots and fresh shaves and the rest of the drill-field BS that he forced on his men. Field hygiene yes, by all means- but Patton took it into the realm of the absurd.
You’re right. It was murder. The President should resign his post immediately.
That premise is easy to accept if you also accept, which I do, that our government we see or are allowed to see is like the 10% of an iceberg above the water.
The part we see gives us just enough not to create waves and make us feel good about our "way of life" while the ruling, not governing, and self enrichment is done out of sight and hearing from all except the select members of the inner circle.
Anyone threatening the inner circle becomes a member of the expendable list.
How can you possibly know that? Have you read this guy's book? Have you spoken to someone who was there?
So what, he hit the plexi-glass partition that didn’t exist at that time?
Stuff it, not funny.
Truman didn’t give China away. Chaing Kai-shek did.
he won battles that way ...
If there is no hard evidence available and, after six and a half decades have passed, no one left alive to corroborate even the rumors and suspicions regarding the possible assassination of General Patton - which I do not rule out as a possibility - I cannot see the point of attempting to pursue this very cold case. However, I do see the value of understanding the unseen but active forces at work that you refer to as "the war above the war".
I believe that, on a practical basis, attempting to generate interest in such an old, virtually unprovable case of possible assassination of an American hero by either the U.S.and/or Soviet government is basically futile. Still, I understand the interest and do not reject the premise of assassination, only the reality of ever finding the truth after all this time. Investigations such as this need to be performed close to the actual act, not decades later. Because investigations of this (and other) suspicious deaths of American heroes were often successfully 'controlled' and/or thwarted at the time they occurred, making further investigation ineffective, attempting to re-start an investigation into General Patton's untimely, accidental death seems like a Sisyphean task that I can't see bearing any real conclusions.
I can't see how taking time away from much-needed weapon and equipment maintenance was anything other than a hindrance. I think that he won battles in spite of the drill-field spit-shine-in-combat BS, not because of it.
No one was more surprised than me. I was in Patton's army for about 3 weeks in 1944. He always seemed to be 'on the edge' of something. I think it was an accident. Patton lived only for war. He died on active duty, in uniform, no doubt wearing his pearl handled pistols. War was over, peace reigned, Patton was no more. Let it be.
I agree. To some Patton was a pain in the ass because he had the audacity to observe that the king wore no clothes. In other words he spoke openly about things he didn’t agree with.
That said, from everything I’ve read most of the heat to get rid of Patton came from the press (sound familiar) which for one reason or another had taken a disliking to him. I suspect it was because he didn’t treat them like WWII was all about them. The media dogged him for “gotcha” moments or created them out of thin air.
Patton was America’s best fighting general and, despite the “Blood and Guts” label hung on him his units took far fewer casualties than did Bradley’s—or any other general’s— units. Moreover, soldiers who served under Patton come across as being proud of the man and their accomplishments when interviewed.
But Bradley was a politician first and a soldier second. Because of his sycophant association with the media, the scribblers awarded him the title of a “Soldiers General”. Interestingly, I’ve not observed the same level of enthusiasm for Bradley from folks who served under him.
I’m sure there was plenty of envy from other generals because Patton’s skills as a leader, tactician and fighter were so much better than theirs. I’ve always wondered whether or not the Ardennes (Battle of the Bulge) would have happened if Patton was in charge and not Bradley.
In anyh case, I don’t believe that envy or his criticisms would have been sufficient to have him murdered. That’s a big step.
More to the point, he would have been relentless about the threat of Communism, he would have found out about the extent of Communist infiltration under FDR, and if he spoke out the common people would have listened to him. He was a threat to the Communists in the US, and to the Dem party.
he was responsible for giving China to the Communists.
Right. And the massive battlefield incompetence, the corruption, and the utter social decay of “Republican” China and Cash-My-Check (Chaing Kai-Shek) had nothing to do with it.
Please spare us.
Target Patton by Robert Wilcox
a good book for Christmas :)
I truly believe he was killed by the Communist in the US government.. Patton a strong anti-communist and the powers that be at the time were appeasing the Russians... Its time for the truth to be told..
Years ago I read speculation that a Czech debris gun was used to try and kill him. Sounds like further efforts may have been used to silence him. As a side note I think Gen Patton was a warrior in a previous life and time. And I can remember doing a book report long ago and I was most curious that it didn’t list his dob - a point I had to defend with the teacher.
Yes, he was taken out by the US Military.
Wouldn’t surprise me that Patton got killed. At that time like today, those people who speak their mind without bowing to the altar of political correctness end up getting silenced !
Neil Armstrong didn’t do the moonwalk—Michael Jackson did.
That was the propaganda at the time. Do you think Mao was better?
And this is precisely why the truth will likely never be told.
he was murdered. many when i was in the army many were convinced of this.
Ahh but the real kicker is that if you rearrange the letters in "Titanic" and "Lincoln" it doesn't even come close to spelling "Leonardo DiCaprio"...
(However you can rearrange the letters in "Leonardo DiCaprio" to spell "A Ironclad Odor Pie".
“He was also a threat to FDR as a Presidential candidate, he may have changed our future”
Huh? The only way that could be true is if FDR was running for president in hell
Would it not have been simpler, less suspicious, and more practical for the assassins to have finished the job at the scene of the accident?
You can’t with any degree of certainty kill a person in a slow-moving vehicle by putting a truck in front of him. So let’s say that Patton’s broken neck had some other cause there at the scene of the accident.
Are we to assume that the Russians don’t know how to do this properly? So that he’s dead instead of just paralyzed and requiring additional violence later?
Meanwhile he’s alive and might possibly speak?
Not to mention the witnesses at the scene. Very messy situation, very unprofessionally arranged.
Conclusion: assassination not likely.
“Years ago I read speculation that a Czech debris gun was used to try and kill him. Sounds like further efforts may have been used to silence him. As a side note I think Gen Patton was a warrior in a previous life and time. And I can remember doing a book report long ago and I was most curious that it didnt list his dob - a point I had to defend with the teacher.”
The more I hear it sounds like he was silenced and no accident.
He was progressing until ‘specialists’ from Washington arrived to take over his medical care. He didn’t survive long under their ‘treatment’.
All conspiracy theories are funny.
These were not Iranian type "human waves" as were used in Stalingrad, but crack fighting troops that rolled over the Wehrmacht. And they had top equipment because we gave it to them (except for their tanks and artillery, which often used our designs). It would have been a disaster of the first order to send about 80 divisions (allowing for some to police Japan and the Pacific) against 200+.
We didn't have a bomber capable of flying to Moscow and back with atomic bombs (see "Hollow Threat" by USAF Col. Harry Borowski) and only had 100 bombs period by about 1947. When you account for planes shot down---in a-bomb raids you can bet every single Soviet fighter would be up---a-bombs would not have proven tactically useful in an invasion.
Our strat was the right one, as Reagan ultimately showed: box them in, make Communism fail economically, don't give an inch of new ground. Play defense militarily, offense economically and technologically.
Agreed. Reality is hard to take for some people.
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