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Praise, Scorn Heaped On Women Who Helped Cops
The Tampa Tribune ^ | December 19, 2010 | Kathy Steele

Posted on 12/19/2010 3:20:51 PM PST by Iron Munro

TAMPA - Three women heard gunshots.

What they did next made them heroes to many people but outcasts to others – including some of their neighbors.

Rose Dodson was awakened by gunfire and tires squealing that night, June 29.

Moments later, her roommate, Delores Keen, watched a man leap over a fence near her apartment. In the distance, at 50th Street and 23rd Avenue in east Tampa, she saw the emergency lights of a police cruiser twirling in the dark, but no officer was in sight.

Both knew something was wrong and stepped outside the safety of the apartment to investigate. A friend, Renee Roundtree, who had been walking to a nearby store, joined them.

Lying on the ground beside the police cruiser, the women found two officers, David Curtis and Jeffrey Kocab.

Keen called a 911 dispatcher. The women tried to give comfort to the mortally wounded officers and waited for the massive police response that followed.

Dozens of patrol cars rolled up, and a manhunt for the killer began that put the city on edge for days, until a suspect was in custody.

In those tense days, as people moved nervously about the city and mourned the officers' deaths, the three women were praised for their courage and compassion. They also were criticized, even scorned, by those who view anyone who helps the police as a traitor.

"It has turned our lives upside down," Dodson says, reflecting on the events of that night and afterward. But, she says, "If you could have seen them on the ground and walked by, you have no soul."

On July 2, four days into the manhunt, Dontae Morris, 25, gave himself up to Tampa police. He is charged in the deaths of Curtis and Kocab, and three more unrelated homicides.

A spotlight shined on Keen, Dodson and Roundtree. For weeks they were heaped with praise, commendations and plaques. They appeared before the Hillsborough County Commission and Tampa City Council, and attended a luncheon at the Florida Holocaust Museum in St. Petersburg.

Tampa police, in partnership with University Mall representatives and stores, arranged a shoe shopping spree for the women and their children. They were offered grief counseling through the city's employee assistance program. And police resource officers at the R.I.C.H. (Resources in Community Hope) House in Sulphur Springs helped with referrals to social service agencies, including Metropolitan Ministries and Catholic Charities.

Dodson says all of the assistance is appreciated. But some people saw the attention the women received and concluded – incorrectly, Dodson says – they took action that night merely to make their own lives better.

Even as they ran to help the fallen officers, the women say, they knew there would be a backlash.

All of the women say they have received threats, and Dodson and Keen say they have changed their telephone numbers more than once. Dodson says someone slashed her tires.

Keen says a neighbor poured grease on a stairwell outside her 50th Street apartment. Her daughter and 8-month-old grandson slipped in the goo and fell, Keen says, and were treated for scrapes and bruises at a hospital.

Dodson and Keen moved to apartments near University Mall within weeks of the shootings. "I was just glad to get away from 50th Street," Dodson says.

But the move has not turned out as they had hoped. The women say the area is infested with crime and illegal drugs. And Keen and Dodson face eviction for not paying their apartments' rents. Keen lost her job at a fast-food restaurant; Dodson is attending school on financial aid and volunteers part time with an anti-crime program.

Keen, who is from Miami, and Dodson, from New York, for years have helped each other when money is tight. In the past, the women say, they have pooled their resources to pay for food and rent.

What they want, they say, is a "stable roof" over their heads.

Tampa police are aware of their problems, says Chief Jane Castor, and are looking at ways to help. "We feel a responsibility to help them in any way we can," Castor says.

The most recent assistance has been through R.I.C.H. House, which is providing Christmas toys. "We consider them a part of our family," says police spokeswoman Janelle McGregor.

Some financial aid has been provided through the Highland Pines Community Task Force. An account at Fifth Third Bank set up for donations has less than $100 remaining. Task force President Betty Bell says the women each were given $100 around Thanksgiving.

Roundtree, who is a hairstylist and cosmetologist, has no permanent address but says she sometimes stays with her mother in West Tampa. She spent a couple of days with Dodson and Keen at their apartments. Her father offered her a house he owns in Dade City. "All it needs is a little fixing," Roundtree says.

Roundtree says she is discouraged that the anti-snitch culture remains so strong. "It's going to always be the same," she says.

Tampa police officials note steady declines in crime throughout the city, including East Tampa, in recent years. They say it couldn't happen without residents' cooperation. "It's kind of a community effort to change the culture," McGregor said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackculture; florida; leo; officerdown; police
What a sad commentary on the current state of urban black culture.
1 posted on 12/19/2010 3:20:56 PM PST by Iron Munro
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To: Iron Munro

It is all Whitey’s fault.


2 posted on 12/19/2010 3:24:18 PM PST by sport
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To: Iron Munro

Rose Dodson, Delores Keen and Renee Roundtree stepped over the Black//White line when they aided officers David Curtis and Jeffrey Kocab who were shot in June.


3 posted on 12/19/2010 3:28:23 PM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: Iron Munro

Both cops were shot in the head and I don’t think they made it to the hospital. Good for these women who tried to help and were essential to finding the guy who shot them. His mother worked for the sheriffs dept (not a cop) and was helping him.


4 posted on 12/19/2010 3:28:43 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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Iron Munro


Is "current state" any different than natural state?

HAVE A COOL YULE!
CLICK FOR GIFT


5 posted on 12/19/2010 3:30:48 PM PST by I see my hands (How's that ballot box working out for you?)
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To: Iron Munro
"If you could have seen them on the ground and walked by, you have no soul."

Obviously, there are more than a few people that probably would have done just that.

6 posted on 12/19/2010 3:35:46 PM PST by smokingfrog (Do all the talking you want, but do what I tell you.)
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To: Iron Munro

Urban Black Culture needs to be defunded and bulldozed.

As Sharpton said of heirs of the wealthy, “They didn’t do anything to deserve it.”
Time that ye be judged.


7 posted on 12/19/2010 3:36:28 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: Iron Munro
STOP SNITCHING...!!!
8 posted on 12/19/2010 3:40:06 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: sport

It partly is. It was white liberals who decided that rounding them up together in public housing projects and doing everything they could to destroy the black family.


9 posted on 12/19/2010 3:44:44 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
"Urban Black Culture needs to be defunded and bulldozed."

Make them work for their food again.

10 posted on 12/19/2010 3:55:20 PM PST by blam
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To: Iron Munro
Attention residents: All police presence is being permanently withdrawn from your neighborhood. In addition, all funds originating from white people have ceased and will not be reinstated.

Have a pleasant afternoon. Crews will come by tomorrow to pick up the survivor.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

11 posted on 12/19/2010 4:03:42 PM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Exactly!


12 posted on 12/19/2010 4:04:57 PM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I gotta agree with you on this one.


13 posted on 12/19/2010 4:19:23 PM PST by sport
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To: The Comedian

We need a “like” button on the individual posts of FR.


14 posted on 12/19/2010 4:23:31 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: Iron Munro
"If you could have seen them on the ground and walked by, you have no soul."

They do have souls - unfortunately, they are under the control of the Prince of Darkness, under management of his private franchise, the Democrat Party.

15 posted on 12/19/2010 4:24:40 PM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: netmilsmom
We need a “like” button on the individual posts of FR.

I totally agree.

16 posted on 12/19/2010 4:29:50 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants; sport; Iron Munro; BenLurkin; blam; Chode; UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide; ...

It’s to all our benefit to understand the start of this crisis: http://www.freetochoose.tv/new_vimeo_ut.php

Eventually, if we want to hold Congress over time we’ll need to peel away about 15% of African American voters (currently we get about 5-7%). They are victims of bad governmental policy and most know it, but don’t see a way out. Informed and thinking FReepers can make a difference in educating them.

In America we have a long tradition of income mobility, but government in the 20th century has turned that upside down trapping millions in poverty - economic and moral. They’ve driven fathers out of households, encouraged promiscuity and victimhood.

Poverty and moral depravity is not the provenance of any particular race.


17 posted on 12/19/2010 4:31:37 PM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
"They are victims of bad governmental policy"

Do I get to use that excuse too? (I'm white.)


18 posted on 12/19/2010 4:42:22 PM PST by I see my hands (How's that ballot box working out for you?)
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To: 1010RD

“Poverty and moral depravity is not the provenance of any particular race.”

bears repeating


19 posted on 12/19/2010 4:52:54 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: I see my hands

By all means, knock yourself out if that’s what you really want.


20 posted on 12/19/2010 5:12:59 PM PST by rockrr ("I said that I was scared of you!" - pokie the pretend cowboy)
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To: Iron Munro

Can anyone read this and still wonder why Harlem re-elected Charles Rangel. Why Maxine Waters and others in the CBC get re-elected?

Why Obama carried 95% of the black vote?

This guy killed 2 Police Officers and is involved in 3 other homicides. Probably black on black homicides.
They would rather have a killer amongst them than have another black in prison.

I don’t feel bad at all about deaths in the black community, It is what they vote for when they refuse to identify killers. I don’t feel bad about the drugs there. It is what they vote for when the Grandmothers accept the drug money from Grandkids.

When a black criminal is placed in prison he becomes a statistic to be used to show that Whitey just want to imprison blacks. The fact that they are committing the great majority of crimes does not get spoken of when that statistic is used. The fact that most of these crimes are croimes committed in black neighborhoods,agains black people seems not to matter to them.


21 posted on 12/19/2010 5:27:14 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer
Can anyone read this and still wonder why Harlem re-elected Charles Rangel. Why Maxine Waters and others in the CBC get re-elected?

Exactly!

These three women showed humanity and the right instincts. They show promise as the kind of people that can possibly help heal the great racial divide liberals have manufactured. But by the time their "community" gets done beating and ostracizing them they will be firmly back on the plantation.

Others have tried to honor them and assist them. But the irony is that the more compassion shown to them by whites, the greater their abuse at the hands of their fellow blacks.

22 posted on 12/19/2010 5:38:42 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Only criminals, dictators and democrats fear armed citizens.")
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...
On July 2, four days into the manhunt, Dontae Morris, 25, gave himself up to Tampa police. He is charged in the deaths of Curtis and Kocab, and three more unrelated homicides.
Image and video hosting by TinyPic "Obviously the police were acting stupidly!"

23 posted on 12/19/2010 5:46:46 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: I see my hands

You’d enjoy and benefit from the entire series - Free to Choose.

http://www.freetochoose.tv/

Black Americans have a unique history, not unlike that of American Indians. Whites come from a stock of people willing to leave home, travel far away and start fresh. If you imagine that there are intrinsic differences between people you’ll see that whites have a distinct genetic advantage if those traits are genetic or a nurtured skill if those traits are environmental or both if they are mixed.

Blacks started as low as you can go, as slaves, randomly picked to leave home by force. By both genes and environment they’re at a distinct disadvantage. They continue to be treated as “other” by both their irascible foes and their supposed friends.

Bush had it right when he decried the “soft bigotry of low standards”. 7/10 black children are born outside of wedlock. The black family torn apart until the close of the Civil War went on to be terrorized by state governments and victimized by their inherent poverty and lack of education. They recovered toward the end of the 19th century and enjoyed a Renaissance of sorts up until the Great Depression. There was a time when black architects, doctors and lawyers were employed by whites because of their skill and merit.

The black family never recovered after WW2 and government policies both state and federal and both bigoted and ameliorative have exacerbated the situation. If we have any mercy we’d fight for school vouchers, adoption and welfare reform.

To pretend that whites as a group or class have suffered in America like blacks did is to ignore the reality of history.


24 posted on 12/19/2010 5:53:37 PM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: Iron Munro

“What a sad commentary on the current state of urban black culture.”

I think that you also have to blame the “war on drugs” for some of this. It’s turned the cops into an occupation force and put a lot of black men in jail for a long time that really shouldn’t have. That plus the history of harassment (black while driving, etc) has turned the black community against the cops. Sure the breakdown of the black family (encouraged by welfare and other liberal social programs) has made things even worse as young men raised by women will have very little respect for authority.

Looks like the perfect storm is on the horizon, all we need is a spark to light it off and that won’t be fun for anyone.


25 posted on 12/19/2010 7:06:35 PM PST by trapped_in_LA
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To: 1010RD

You hit the nail on the head with your essay.


26 posted on 12/19/2010 10:21:58 PM PST by rahbert
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To: Iron Munro

“A spotlight shined...”. Did the author mean ‘shone’?


27 posted on 12/19/2010 10:22:49 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Iron Munro

Oh. Gee. I thought they were Amish.

I’m so shocked.


28 posted on 12/19/2010 10:35:21 PM PST by ratsreek
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To: The Comedian; netmilsmom

29 posted on 12/19/2010 10:43:56 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: trapped_in_LA

You’re just blame-shifting.

There wouldn’t be an increased presence of cops if there weren’t an increase in crime first.


30 posted on 12/19/2010 10:47:14 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: rahbert

Thanks. We need to maintain our bearings. As “conservatives” we’re better off remembering that we’re really Classical Liberals.

And just like today, we’d have been fighting against slavery, not for it.


31 posted on 12/20/2010 4:57:42 AM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: metmom

“You’re just blame-shifting.

There wouldn’t be an increased presence of cops if there weren’t an increase in crime first.”

Could it be that there is an increase in crime because there is an increase in what the law defines as a crime? And a financial incentive for the cops to bust people? Such as the war on drugs? And no I’m not blame shifting, just pointing out the dynamics that have caused it. Also, I don’t believe that there is an increased police presence in these “hoods”, cops don’t like to hang out in areas where the local population takes pot shots at them (got to live to see that gold plated pension after all). This is about losing the “hearts and minds” battle for the populations that you police and it’s been an abject failure IMHO. But if you want to stick your head in the sand and hope it all goes away then good luck but more of the same isn’t going to work any better than it already has.


32 posted on 12/20/2010 7:49:00 AM PST by trapped_in_LA
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