Skip to comments.Enrollment of Muslim students is growing at Catholic colleges in U.S.
Posted on 12/20/2010 5:01:32 AM PST by Hawk720
On a quick break between classes last week, Reef Al-Shabnan slipped into an empty room at Catholic University to start her daily prayers to Allah.
In one corner was a life-size painting of Jesus carrying the cross. In another, the portrait of a late priest and theologian looked on. And high above the room hung a small wooden crucifix.
This was not, Shabnan acknowledged, the ideal space for a Muslim to pray in. After her more than two years on campus, though, it has become routine and sacred in its own way. You can find Allah anywhere, the 19-year-old from Saudi Arabia said, even at the flagship university of the U.S. Catholic world.
In the past few years, enrollment of Muslim students such as Shabnan has spiked at Catholic campuses across the country. Last year, Catholic colleges had an even higher percentage of Muslim students than the average four-year institution in the United States, according to the Higher Education Research Institute. The influx has astonished and sometimes befuddled administrators. Some Catholic campuses are creating prayer rooms for new Muslim students and hiring Islamic chaplains to minister to them. Others are unsure how to adapt.
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...while your unsure,they are not......
They’re not even presenting a horse statue to trick us, they’re just going right past the portcullis and the open square and plopping down in the middle of the yard with prayer mats in hand.
Folks, we’ve crossed so many points of no return that we’re barreling down the track at full speed with the approaching bridge collapsed in the river below.
Am I the only one that sees a problem with this?
How about the Catholic administrators NOT catering to their false religion? Are they so blind or just stupid?! Don’t come to a Catholic Univ unless you accept the faith. PERIOD!
This is just wrong on so many levels.
This epitomizes what is wrong with our country today.
Catholicism has NOTHING in common with Islam except maybe Fatima. Mohammad's daughter claimed she saw Mary. It's nuts but that's the only thing they may have in common. How anyone that claimed to see a ghost would KNOW it was Mary is beyond me since there are NO IMAGES of her. A fallen angel was certainly rewarded by Satan. For Christians, it's ALL ABOUT CHRIST!
Remembering fondly our lunch at Reagan...was it 4 years ago?!
Accommodating EVIL is not the Christian thing to do!
Islam is EVIL to the core.
Didn't the Catholic Pope also warn their followers NOT to marry Islamic people? I'm not Catholic, but I thought I read this somewhere on FR. If this is true, then WHY cater to EVIL?
No, YOU’RE NOT THE ONLY ONE !!!
I just forward this to my sweetie. His dad, Knights of Columbus bigwig, will be incensed.
The Catholic Universities began to break away from the faith more than 40 years ago. The saddest part is that they were allowed to do so. As far as I can see, these are, for the most part, no longer Catholic in anything but name. None of my children will ever attend at most of them. And it’s the weaselish, sniveling political correctness and lack of moral center that is causing events like those described in the article to occur. By the same token, classes on islam (forever small i) at a purported Catholic university. How low we have fallen from the days when the Catholic university was a bastion of civilization. (Sorry for all the vitriol - celiac issues today)
That would be liberal catholic schools.Unreal.
nmh, look up the Land-o-lakes rebellion. These were once (not now), Catholic in much more than name. Not anymore. Otherwise, BHO wouldn’t have been invited to speak, solely based on the abortion/embryonic stemm cell stance/actions.
We started as a Christian nation and as long as we were primarilly Christian; God fearing, honoring and believing .. we were blessed and protected by God.
When we complacently told God to leave our hearts and ignored His pleas, He, though still knocking, lost effectiveness because of the hardness of our hearts.
I'm sorry, but Catholicism was an easy target and wholly conquerable religion with it's diversity of worship ... The traditional God, Jesus and Holy Spirit .. but Mary, many saints, holy places and icons as well.
One could almost make a comparison to the many gods of Buddhism.
Dear Catholics ... if you decide to truly accept the holy war against the satanic Allah and it adherants... I will be there with you.
diversity of worship ... The traditional God, Jesus and Holy Spirit .. but Mary, many saints, holy places and icons as well.
Roman Catholics do not pray to icons,Mary or the Saints.
They ask them to pray for them.
And a Merry Christmas to you, too!
Remembering fondly our lunch at Reagan...was it 4 years ago?!
Good grief...it sure was. It was in December of '06. Time sure flies when you're having fun!
(I keep telling myself this is "fun.") ;-)
I understand that, but generally speaking .. people do not see it that way.
I don't want to pick a fight with Catholics here ... I did that years ago ... I'm commenting on what is now a reality in America and it BY GOD should never have gotten this way.
What does ANY of this have to do with accommodating ISLAM at a Catholic College?
Okay, I did look it up. As a nonCatholic I am not familiar with the Land of Lakes Rebellion of 1967. Here is what I found on it
I'm not going to wade through the gobbledygook.
Thank GOD, I'm Bible based. It's so much easier ... . Canyou cut through the chase and tell me what I am supposed to see?
“diversity of worship ... The traditional God, Jesus and Holy Spirit .. but Mary, many saints, holy places and icons as well.
Roman Catholics do not pray to icons,Mary or the Saints.
They ask them to pray for them.”
Catholics DO pray TO MARY and other dead siiners to INTERCEDE for them.
ROMAN CATHOLICS most CERTAINLY DO PRAY TO MARY and other DEAD SINNERS to INTERCEDE for them. They WILL pray to statues and ICONS to accomplish this. Let’s NOT lie about that FACT.
It’s all about the money...tuition from anyone who will pay it.
Astonishingly, Catholic Colleges no longer adhere to Catholic Doctrine.
Someday, not too far in the future, these universities will begin to fall to the muslims, one by one.
When that happens you won’t see the muslims allowing Catholics to pray to Jesus on campus.
Very interesting post and thread. The collectivization of collectives...watch Catholic University morph into a mosque, a barracks, a base camp for Allah’s asymmetric warriors.
from citizen warrior...
19. It provides a huge and inspiring goal. Leaders of countries or companies or religions have all discovered that you can get the most motivation and enthusiasm from your followers if you provide them with an expansive vision. An enormous goal. In the Islamic memeplex, the goal calls for a continuous effort to expand the domain of Islamic law until all the world has submitted to Islam.
Many religions have the goal of converting everyone, but Islam has a method available nobody else has: To expand by seizing and converting governments to Shari’a.
Several memes within Shari’a law extend this effect. Non-Muslims are not allowed to build any new houses of worship. They’re not even allowed to repair already-existing churches or synagogues. This puts the houses of worship of any competing memeplex in a state of permanent decline. Brilliant.
We now see what a disaster it has been to allow Christian religious institutions to be hijacked by secular left wing forces. We have thrown away some of the most powerful weapons in the culture war and then we wonder at the results.
Pathetic and disturbing. The left and radical Islam certainly understood how important it is to suborn these institutions.
This is probably caused by many Islamic Studies ‘experts’ come from Catholic Universities, such as Georgetown (John Esposito) and Notre Dame (Gabriel Reynolds). Those schools perhaps start Islamic Studies to prepare missionaries understand Muslims, but later changed into centers for Islamic apologetics.
>> Some Catholic campuses are creating prayer rooms for new Muslim students and hiring Islamic chaplains to minister to them.<<
That even the very elect would be deceived.
Catholics have some common ground with Christianity but also UNCOMMON ground.
An honest Catholic will admit that they DO pray to Mary and other dead sinners they believe are in heaven to intercede for them. I don't know HOW they come to this idea but they have told me, they INFER this as being proper.
As a Christian, I would NEVER do that nor “infer” this since the Bible states otherwise. Christ has given us the Holy Spirit who will intercede on our behalf to Christ and Christ on behalf of God (Trinity). Christ is the mediator for Christians.
And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant,
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 1 Timothy 2:5.
NOT Mary or other dead sinners
He is not only God, but man; not only man, but God: a blessed reconciler of man to God, and of God to man. Galatians 4:4-5.
Who intercedes for us?
Romans 8:26 and 27
 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
I'm not picking a fight with Catholics. It IS what the Bible states and there is no “mystery” on the interpretation of this. Scripture CLARIFIES Scripture. Dead sinners can't hear anyone on earth, however fallen angels would love to have you DISTRACTED from CHRIST and do all possible to PREVENT a personal relationship with Christ. Through praying to dead sinners, this accomplishes that.
I could say more, but I will stop there.
I truly believe it IS .. Onward Christian Soldiers, but I'm afraid many patriots are not ready to be warriors.
And I also truly believe it IS a time for war.
They declared it Sept. 11, 2001.
We need to remember that there are “Catholic” universities and then there are Catholic universities.
Fortunately, the Church is beginning to take a deeper look at all of this and I expect that we will see some of these institutions eventually lose their official *Catholic* status.
Ahh, let’s bring back the Knights Templars and I will be a Crusader for Christ. How can this be when a religion allows anopther religion to join them with out converting? What has God brought to his people? First the gays in the priest hood, lack of Nuns and now this? Who ever lets a muslim in a Catholic church with a prayer mat facing mecca, may they be d@mned for all time.
Who would believe that America would exalt PERVERTS, homosexuals and allow them to OPENLY DISPLAY their PERVERSION in our military?
Who would believe that we would ALLOW an evil person like Obama to be elected? He totally MOCKS Christianity?
Just look at his ARROGANCE and DEFIANCE!
Nose up in the air - haughty! Try watching Obama's face WITHOUT sound. He can hardly contain his utter disdain of Christians and the Bible. We should also be looking out for Catholics. God loves them too and they have time to reconsider what the TRUTH is. They are so close ... and then deviate.
“We need to remember that there are Catholic universities and then there are Catholic universities.”
True, but Catholic University of America in DC that is highlighted in this article is widely considered one of the more stringent Catholic universities. Their president (or did he recently leave?) has taken a lot of flak for trying to keep his Catholic school actually Catholic. We’re not just talking about the Georgetowns and Notre Dames.
Aside from the Catholic schools that turn away federal dollars, and can therefore write their own rules, this will be the trend.
They issue the Student Visa's and by issuing these visas so freely, they are setting America up for disasterous consequences.
The U.S. State Dept. acts as if it had nothing to do with issuing visas to the 09-11- hijackers. Their visa give-a-way to Islamic peoples needs to be stopped dead.
The Catholic Church in this country is a joke. First they coddle illegals and now this.
- There are 91 Muslims enrolled at the Catholic University of America. That's out of 6700 students, both graduate and undergraduate, of whom 88% of undergraduates are Catholic and 61% of graduates are Catholic;
- All undergraduates are required to take religion and philosophy courses, including core courses which will require them to read the Christian Bible as well as to learn basics of Christian faith.
I submit that it is a good thing to permit a small number of Muslims to go to places like the Catholic University of America, as they will be introduced to an environment rich in Catholic faith and will be exposed to authentic Catholic teaching (CUA is, at this time, one of the more orthodox Catholic colleges in the United States. Far from perfect, but even farther from its nadir in the 1970s and 1980s).
It may be few, if any, Muslims that are converted, but at least they will be exposed to something outside of Islam. I have a hard time seeing this as a bad thing.
Interestingly, my own exposure to Islam began at CUA when I was an undergraduate. I took a course that was primarily about Islam and its conflict with Christianity from the time of its inception through the Middle Ages. The course, although respectful of Islam, nonetheless was presented from a thoroughly Catholic perspective.
And, “The Cancer Grows.” Let one cell in and soon we will have as big a tumor as Europe.
Having gone to grad school at a local Catholic college with a large Muslim population, I can tell you this:
1. The Muslim population at MY school was attracted by the school’s devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary. Hence, these Muslims were overwhelmingly those who saw Christians as “brothers of the Book,” rather than “infidels.”
2. The spiritual effect such students would have had on the school WOULD HAVE been largely positive, as such, had the school leaders (faculty, administration, and student leaders) saw this as means for teaching THEM how to be more like US, rather than how WE must accomodate THEM.
3. Nonetheless, as such a small (one might even say “parochial” if that wouldn’t cause confusion) college, even that was harmless, because it wasn’t the sort of educational experience centered around establishing liberal “rights.” However, at the undergraduate, Jesuit school I attended, I could imagine that could be absolutely insidious... But that school lacked the Marian appellation, and probably only minimally attracts such Muslims.
Sure, happy to. In a nutshell, the Catholic universities in this country essentially declared their independence from the authority of the Church. Up until this time (~1967), the universities were obliged to follow the Church, as they should, having been founded with that in mind. As of the late sixties, when this began, the majority of the Catholic universities in America began to diverge, widely, from Church teachings, moral and otherwise. Not all have followed this path, but many. Thus we have the campus political climates that yield things like the obamanator’s appearance at Notre Dame, or the shenanigans at Washington’s favorite Jesuit university, et al. I’m not an expert, by any means, just a Catholic who mourns these happenings, for himself, fellow Catholics (we are Bible-based, by the way), and other Bible-based Christians, such as yourself. The Land-o-lakes rebellion gave us ostensibly Catholic universities so politically correct and progressive that they repudiate their own founding principles, and welcome this horror. Sorry for running on, but again, it’s a celiac day for me. Suffice it to say that, had the rebellion not been allowed, we wouldn’t have this garbage going on at Catholic campuses at all. Just my humble opinion though. I hope that helps.
Dean: Muhomed, we've called you in her to say that we've noticed that you're a little slow.
Muhomed: How is that, Mr. Dean, sir?
Dean: Well, were you arare that this is a CATHOLIC University?
Dean: The word “Saint” in the title didn't give you a clue?
Muhomed: Of course, I knew, infidel! The streets will run red with your own blood. You will surely swim in your own blood along with hundreds of millions of Americans! We will win, this I guarantee.
Anyways, what are you going to do to accommodate me? I demand that my wishes be met quickly or else I will go the TV and expose the fact that you have offended me! A much worse crime to your media and your leaders than a threat of killing a mere few hundred million of you.
As a Catholic I am pretty much just speechless at this point.
There is no allah.
islam is a lie.
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