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Christmas trees 'make non-Christians feel excluded'
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Posted on 12/20/2010 7:52:19 AM PST by Sub-Driver

Christmas trees 'make non-Christians feel excluded'

Christmas trees should be removed from public places to avoid making non-Christians feel “excluded”, scientists have suggested

By Andy Bloxham 11:43AM GMT 20 Dec 2010

Researchers at Simon Fraser University in Canada, found non-Christians feel less self-assured and have fewer positive feelings if a Christmas tree was in the room.

The scientists conducted the study using 77 Christians and 57 non-believers, including Buddhists and Sikhs.

The participants did not know the survey was about Christmas, and were asked to fill in questions about themselves both when a 12-inch Christmas tree was in the room and when it was not.

"Non-celebrators" reported fewer positive feelings and less self-assurance in the Christmas room. Christians were mostly cheered by the tree.

Christians, however, did report feeling more guilt when a tree was in the room, which, claim the researchers, suggests the holidays can be stressful.

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To: NEMDF

“My car is old. Being around new cars makes me feel excluded. So I guess they should get rid of all of the new cars”.

...LOL! Exactly!


21 posted on 12/20/2010 8:00:55 AM PST by albie
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To: Sub-Driver; Elsie

Sorry, researchers at Simon Fraser University in Canada.

Have you confused me with someone that really gives a rats ass what you think?


22 posted on 12/20/2010 8:02:04 AM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah, where the world comes to see America)
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To: Sub-Driver

“Researchers at Simon Fraser University in Canada...”

Say no more. I’m already releasing the safety...”


23 posted on 12/20/2010 8:02:07 AM PST by sand lake bar
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To: Sub-Driver

When I watch the “Oscar” presentations I never get one. I feel excluded. No more Oscars.


24 posted on 12/20/2010 8:02:07 AM PST by albie
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To: Sub-Driver

Will it make ‘em happy if we top the Christmas tree with a pentagram?


25 posted on 12/20/2010 8:02:21 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

So if I feel excluded from Ramadan, Muslims must give it up?
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No, you must skip eating too...so they don’t feel alone.


26 posted on 12/20/2010 8:02:35 AM PST by Irenic
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To: Sub-Driver
Christmas trees 'make non-Christians feel excluded'

Exactly what Christmas trees have to do with Christianity is beyond me but, nevertheless, if this is indeed the case, there's one simple solution for you excluded-feeling non-Christians out there.

Repeat after me: "Lord, forgive me, a sinner...."

27 posted on 12/20/2010 8:02:54 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Sub-Driver
Christmas trees should be removed from public places to avoid making non-Christians feel “excluded”, scientists have suggested

Shouldn't scientists be busying themselves with discovering cures for illness or something? Last I checked this isn't their area of expertise.

28 posted on 12/20/2010 8:03:43 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Sub-Driver

But I put my Christmas tree outside to INCLUDE them in my holiday. If I wanted to exclude them, I’d put it inside where they couldn’t see it.


29 posted on 12/20/2010 8:04:20 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Why should they “feel excluded”?
Christmas has become the most all inclusive holiday ever, through commercialization and secularization.............


30 posted on 12/20/2010 8:05:34 AM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an “idiot”, you can be sure that you are doing to something right.)
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To: Red Badger

A Christmas tree is just a fir tree.
It can’t “make you feel” anything.

That’s all up to the internal interpreter.


31 posted on 12/20/2010 8:06:29 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Sub-Driver

atheism sucks - no holidays

agnosticism sucks- maybe there’s a holiday, maybe not, who knows?

paganism sucks- clouds cover the sun and moon - the gods are unavailable, but please leave a message

and then for the rest of us, there’s festivus.


32 posted on 12/20/2010 8:06:33 AM PST by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: Sub-Driver

The crap that passes for scientific study these days is just a joke - these things are all so subjective in nature to call it science is insulting.


33 posted on 12/20/2010 8:07:07 AM PST by Baum Threat
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To: Sub-Driver
"Non-celebrators" reported fewer positive feelings and less self-assurance in the Christmas room.


34 posted on 12/20/2010 8:07:13 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Correct. Christmas trees originated with the Druids and other Germanic tribes. They would burn yule logs, decorate evergreens and shoot flaming arrows into the sky in an attempt to keep the sun from burning out as the days were getting noticeably shorter. The festival concluded on December 25 when it became clear that their efforts had paid off, i.e. the days were starting to get gradually longer.

The real birthday of Jesus Christ was about the time of the Jewish passover. Christian missionaries changed it around the 4th century to convert the Germanic tribes. It also made sense symbolically as the birth of Jesus brought light into the world.

35 posted on 12/20/2010 8:07:33 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Sub-Driver
Researchers at Simon Fraser University in Canada, found non-Christians feel less self-assured and have fewer positive feelings if a Christmas tree was in the room.

Good. Get out.

When I am in Turkey, the muezzin doesn't make me feel bad. When I am in Israel, the diminution in traffic after sundown on Friday bothers me not.

Even in Salt Lake City, the lack of coffee shops is fine with me.

36 posted on 12/20/2010 8:08:03 AM PST by Jim Noble (It's the tyranny, stupid!)
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To: MrB

FEELINGS

Feelings, nothing more than feelings,
trying to forget my feelings of love.
Teardrops rolling down on my face,
trying to forget my feelings of love.

Feelings, for all my life I’ll feel it.
I wish I’ve never met you, girl; you’ll never come again.

Feelings, wo-o-o feelings,
wo-o-o, feel you again in my arms.

Feelings, feelings like I’ve never lost you
and feelings like I’ve never have you again in my heart.

Feelings, for all my life I’ll feel it.
I wish I’ve never met you, girl; you’ll never come again.

Feelings, feelings like I’ve never lost you
and feelings like I’ve never have you again in my life.

Feelings, wo-o-o feelings,
wo-o-o, feelings again in my arms.
Feelings...(repeat & fade)

- Morris Albert


37 posted on 12/20/2010 8:08:39 AM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an “idiot”, you can be sure that you are doing to something right.)
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To: Red Badger

Those who feel excluded should do what I do when Cinco de Mayo rolls around. Buy some beer and forget about it...


38 posted on 12/20/2010 8:09:15 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: Sub-Driver

I can produce studies which show that non-Christians get excited at the sight of a Christmas tree. The number of people who are non-Christian but who nonetheless celebrate Christmas is a very large number inside and outside the US.

One stdy means nothing, partitularly when it contradicts the experience of people in Japan and other countries.

The sample is not significant anyway.


39 posted on 12/20/2010 8:10:06 AM PST by texmexis best (`)
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To: Sub-Driver

More feedback from Whine 101.

The perpetually offended.


40 posted on 12/20/2010 8:10:26 AM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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