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A cuddle for baby boy with the youngest parents in the UK
Daily Mail - UK ^ | 20th December 2010 | Andy Dolan

Posted on 12/20/2010 10:19:49 AM PST by Sopater

Cradling the new arrival, April Webster may look like the proud big sister.

But the baby-faced schoolgirl and her sometime boyfriend Nathan Fishbourne have just become Britain’s youngest parents after conceiving son Jamie when they were both only 13.

April and schoolfriend Nathan started having unprotected sex after they began dating in September last year.

She was ‘too embarrassed’ to tell her parents about the sexual side to their relationship until she found out she was pregnant a day before her 14th birthday.

The baby arrived by Caesarean section on November 15, weighing 8lb 14oz. The teenagers are still trying to work out how to cope with parenthood while still children themselves – and even whether they remain a couple.

While Nathan, who is now also 14, insists they are still an item, April claimed they were having a ‘cooling off’ period and was unsure if their relationship would resume.

She said: ‘He has not turned his back on the baby but he’s asking to do things like have him stay over at his house and that has caused some arguments. We have a few things to sort out’.

Yesterday Nathan’s grandmother, Deirdre Rolph, 66, added to the confusion by claiming the teenagers were ‘very in love’.

The pair, who were in the same year at St Cenydd Comprehensive School in their home town of Caerphilly, South Wales, started seeing each other when they were aged 13. April left school 16 weeks into the pregnancy and now attends an educational centre for young mothers.

April lives with parents Jeff, 38, a taxi driver, and Maria, 36 at their four-bedroom end-of-terrace home.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: children; parenting; values
Nathan’s parents, Ron, 53, a retired truck driver, and Julie, 43, said they were angry with him at first over the pregnancy, but were now ready to ‘accept Jamie into our family’.

They're now ready to accept Jamie into the family? Jamie's now part of your family, through no fault of his own, whether you're ready to "accept" him or not. God help this poor baby boy.






1 posted on 12/20/2010 10:19:51 AM PST by Sopater
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To: Sopater

Good size baby. I wish them well. It will be a hard road, it is possible for them to make it.


2 posted on 12/20/2010 10:22:13 AM PST by svcw
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To: Sopater

I’ve got an idea: Let these two kids support the child. Not the govt. If that hurts the child, so be it. Welcome to lefty-ville, home of the bankrupt.


3 posted on 12/20/2010 10:23:14 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Sopater

What a travesty. Kids having kids.

That country has already been down the toilet.


4 posted on 12/20/2010 10:24:51 AM PST by wastedyears (It has nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with control.)
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To: Sopater
It's always such a great idea to let young teenagers "date". I remember my mother laughing at me when I asked her if I could date at age 13. She explained that I couldn't date until I was able to support a wife and family. At the time, in my infinite wisdom, I thought she was horribly mean and unfair.

Would that the rest of our society was so horribly mean.

Pity all three of these children.
5 posted on 12/20/2010 10:27:34 AM PST by Antoninus (Fair warning: If Romney's the GOP nominee in 2012, I'm looking for a new party.)
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To: Sopater
April and schoolfriend Nathan started having unprotected sex after they began dating in September last year.

One is encouraged to infer that the reporter is A-OK with 13-year-olds having sex, but just worried that they were having "unprotected sex". This is another new mandatory prefix in journalism that touts the sources progressive bonifides.

6 posted on 12/20/2010 10:29:55 AM PST by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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To: svcw
I wish them well. It will be a hard road, it is possible for them to make it.

I do too. It will be a very hard road because the parents are children themselves. They need good adult guidance from someone that they can and do trust.
7 posted on 12/20/2010 10:30:38 AM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: wastedyears

It is a travesty but they made a good decision in having the child. Hopefully it is the first of many good decisions they will make in raising their child.

We can’t have it both ways - preach pro-life then condemn people who have children despite less than optimal circumstances.


8 posted on 12/20/2010 10:31:25 AM PST by ruiner
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To: wastedyears

Not uncommon in the US. There must be hundreds of similar cases annually of 13-year-old mothers.

I’m surprised the Daily Mail even did a piece on it. Maybe its more of a novelty in Britain.


9 posted on 12/20/2010 10:31:36 AM PST by buwaya
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To: Sopater
..April claimed they were having a ‘cooling off’ period ...

Way too late for that....................

10 posted on 12/20/2010 10:33:47 AM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an “idiot”, you can be sure that you are doing to something right.)
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To: SampleMan

As if “protection” is the magic bullet. If only these poor children had known. (/sarc)


11 posted on 12/20/2010 10:34:06 AM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: SampleMan

It is impossible for leftists to comprehend self control of bodily urges. These primitive organisms lack the higher level mental processes to override their feeding, emotional, and sex drives.


12 posted on 12/20/2010 10:36:32 AM PST by Soothesayer (smallpox is not a person)
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To: Sopater
Yesterday Nathan’s grandmother, Deirdre Rolph, 66, added to the confusion by claiming the teenagers were ‘very in love’.

If stupidity were only mildly phosphorescent dear Dierdre would glow in bright daylight, never mind in the dark.

13 posted on 12/20/2010 10:38:57 AM PST by RobinOfKingston
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To: Sopater

Okay so we have a pair of 14 year olds who are already parents of a healthy baby. I say get married, work after school, and be the best parents possible. I see plenty of lousy parents of perfect age so the bar ain’t too high.

By the time they are 22, he should have a decent job, the boy will be eight and they can have some more babies.


14 posted on 12/20/2010 10:45:48 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Sopater
"She was ‘too embarrassed’ to tell her parents..."

Embarrassed? My daughter would have been terrified. The boy would probably have moved out of state for his safety.

15 posted on 12/20/2010 10:47:02 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Sopater

FWIW, Juliet was 13. So was Loretta Lynn.


16 posted on 12/20/2010 10:51:31 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
FWIW, Juliet was 13. So was Loretta Lynn.

Oh, that changes everything... (/sarc)
17 posted on 12/20/2010 10:56:01 AM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: Sopater

I, too, wish them and their baby well. It would have been very easy to abort that little guy, but his mother chose to have him instead. She made an initial mistake, but did not choose to “fix” it—that is, commit a far worse sin—by killing her baby.

Prayers for the baby, too. With so many broken families around, his chances are probably no worse than many others who are born into our broken culture. Perhaps better, with a loving mother.


18 posted on 12/20/2010 10:57:25 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Sopater
Nope, but the appropriate age for becoming a mother is indeed one of those culturally rather than biologically determined factors liberals are so fond of.

What they forget, of course, is that in our culture 13 is considered way too young, and for excellent reason. Renaissance or hillbilly culture notwithstanding.

19 posted on 12/20/2010 10:59:49 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Cicero
It would have been very easy to abort that little guy, but his mother chose to have him instead. She made an initial mistake, but did not choose to “fix” it—that is, commit a far worse sin—by killing her baby.

Indeed. It's never too late to start doing the right thing. Although we may carry the consequences of our mistakes for a long time, trying to "fix" that with more bad decisions only compounds the problems. Having the baby was the right thing to do. Now, there are many more big decisions that must be carefully weighed and made.
20 posted on 12/20/2010 11:00:30 AM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: ruiner
We can’t have it both ways - preach pro-life then condemn people who have children despite less than optimal circumstances.

This argument is ludicrous. Nobody is condemning these kids (or their relatives) for bringing the child into this world. The disgust here is for (a) having sex at all (much less unprotected sex) at age 13 and (b) expecting somebody else to support the child that resulted from your immoral behavior. I think it's wonderful the child is alive and well. Now it's time to find a real family for the new baby.

21 posted on 12/20/2010 11:37:21 AM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: Sherman Logan

I think it’s normal for people that age to be in love. Historically, kings and queens have married at that age. It doesn’t fit out modern social construct. I don’t know what the solution is.


22 posted on 12/20/2010 12:03:02 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: buwaya
Not uncommon in the US. There must be hundreds of similar cases annually of 13-year-old mothers.

Sadly, it happened to my sister's daughter. My younger sister and her husband weren't good role models to their 4 kids. My niece was 13 when she got pregnant and kept the baby. My sister and her husband lost their jobs and house, and moved to another state to find work. But the niece wanted to stay and a tug of war ensued between 2 of my sisters for custody of my niece. A judge granted custody to the aunt (my other sister among 4 that I have) - she was also a poor role model. She was maneuvering for the state assistance checks given for the support of niece and baby.

The state went after the sister and husband who had moved, seizing their paychecks and assets to cover the state assistance funds, causing them to lose everything again. The sister who had custody spent the money on herself and used little for the support of the baby.

The baby is now 6, and my niece is working as a "hostess" at a strip joint. I don't know how she pulled that off, as she is not yet 21. Me and my other siblings had tried to intervene and help her over the last 6 years but were rebuffed. Sad all around. P.S. The two sisters are liberal democrats, the rest of us siblings are conservative republicans with normal families.

23 posted on 12/20/2010 12:05:51 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Sherman Logan

Juliet was a character in fiction written by Shakespear.

But regardless, two wrongs do not make a right.


24 posted on 12/20/2010 12:23:25 PM PST by RickB444 (Beat your sword into plowshares, but wined up plowing the fields of someone who kept their sword.)
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To: madprof98

What is ludicrous is the amount of assumption you and others are making regarding their choice of birth control and their long-term plans for raising their child. Your last sentence says explicitly that you think they should throw in the towel and let someone else raise the child.

You might THINK that you are hating the sin rather than the sinner but advocating that the child be taken away says otherwise.

I actually agree with what you’re saying with the exception of the last sentence. However, I think the proper course of action is to enable these young folks to be good parents through guidance rather than vitriol towards their actions a year in the past. Did it ever occur to you that some young mothers-to-be may consider abortion because one element of society treats them like Hester Prynn if they have a child out of wedlock?


25 posted on 12/20/2010 1:04:02 PM PST by ruiner
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To: wastedyears

If so, then you are there with us. Please dont think for a second that America dosent have underage pregnancy.


26 posted on 12/20/2010 1:29:17 PM PST by the scotsman (I)
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To: SampleMan

Sorry, you are reading too much into that. I know the newspaper, and what it reads as is what it reads as. The Daily Mail is a VERY conservative newspaper and frankly detests feckless people like these two. The DM is as about as much a ‘progressive’ newspaper as the head of the KKK is pro-black.


27 posted on 12/20/2010 1:33:26 PM PST by the scotsman (I)
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To: buwaya

Yes and no.

Britain is the worst for teenage pregnancy in Europe, but 11-13 yr old mothers and fathers is still shocking.


28 posted on 12/20/2010 1:35:08 PM PST by the scotsman (I)
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To: Sopater

These young parents, and the possibilities for their child, have many deficits against them, from the start.

How it all turns out can overcome those deficits, IF the young couple has a TON of ongoing support from their families, and if they have it in themselves to become good parents much earlier in life than most young people are capable of doing.

My prayers?

100% for the child.


29 posted on 12/20/2010 2:39:13 PM PST by Wuli
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To: roadcat

Thats a terrible position to be in. It must be very frustrating.

What can a reasonable person do when people who are going down such a self-destructive path refuse help ? They can’t be forced to accept help, even at the age of 13.


30 posted on 12/20/2010 5:29:31 PM PST by buwaya
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To: the scotsman

I don’t think to the contrary at all. What disgusts me is how people don’t shake their heads about this.


31 posted on 12/20/2010 5:34:51 PM PST by wastedyears (It has nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with control.)
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To: Sherman Logan; Sopater
FWIW, Juliet was 13. So was Loretta Lynn.

...and therefore, you believe thirteen year olds should screw there brains out and produce off-spring that they can't support.

32 posted on 12/20/2010 5:36:18 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: the scotsman

Papers can have editorial pages that are conservative, but journalist remain overwhelmingly members of the PC herd. The Wall Street Journal is a conservative paper, but the articles outside of the editorial page are permiated with PC buzzwords.


33 posted on 12/20/2010 5:37:03 PM PST by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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To: Grizzled Bear

You must get a lot of exercise jumping so energetically to conclusions.

I was merely pointing out that this is hardly something new.

I could also have pointed out that in Christian legend the Virgin Mary was 13 or 14 years old when she became pregnant.


34 posted on 12/20/2010 6:22:28 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
I was merely pointing out that this is hardly something new.

Oddly enough, you sound very "pro" teen pregancy.

I could also have pointed out that in Christian legend the Virgin Mary was 13 or 14 years old when she became pregnant.

You also sound quite "progressive."

35 posted on 12/20/2010 6:26:42 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Grizzled Bear

OK, I’m confused. What is it about the term “Christian legend” that to you sounds “progressive?”

How would you describe stories about the life of the Virgin that are not found in Scripture and were first written down many centuries after the fact?


36 posted on 12/20/2010 6:38:30 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: wastedyears

Believe me, we do.

People in Britain are sick of the feckless, the lazy, the workshy, the teenage tarts and the teenage fathers.


37 posted on 12/20/2010 6:53:03 PM PST by the scotsman (I)
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To: SampleMan

Mate, I read the Daily Mail.

I can assure that it is a very conservative and PC-free paper from front to back.


38 posted on 12/20/2010 6:53:58 PM PST by the scotsman (I)
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