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How Will the Repeal of Donít Ask, Donít Tell Impact Troop Recruitment and Retention?
Caffeinated Thoughts ^ | 12/20/10 | Shane Vander Hart

Posted on 12/21/2010 9:05:20 AM PST by iowaguy1972

This is another topic regarding the repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell that you haven’t found covered in the mainstream media – how does the repeal impact troop retention.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; dadt; dontaskdonttell; homosexualagenda; troopretention

1 posted on 12/21/2010 9:05:24 AM PST by iowaguy1972
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To: iowaguy1972

Poorly.....which is what the proponents of this farce want.


2 posted on 12/21/2010 9:06:18 AM PST by edpc (It's Kräusened)
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To: iowaguy1972

Is the Pope Catholic


3 posted on 12/21/2010 9:08:23 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: iowaguy1972

You do know - don’t you - that you can post your blog here without editing and excerpting?

Please don’t blogpimp.


4 posted on 12/21/2010 9:08:48 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: iowaguy1972

I hope I’m around when the unintended consequences of this hit. When this country again needs a draft and gays are drafted right along with everyone else. No more deferment. That will be interesting.


5 posted on 12/21/2010 9:09:52 AM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: iowaguy1972

In anticipation of the repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, in 2007, the Pentagon prepared a list of new or reinterpreted nomenclature and practices familiar to many older veterans. The gay EM who supplied Wikileaks sent us a copy just before his arrest. Some of the more interesting items are below.

All marching commands ending in “March” will now end in either “MINCE” or “SWISH,” at the option of the individual issuing the command;

The command “Dress right, dress” will be replaced with “Dress – or that lovely strapless evening gown – right, dress”

Due to the distinct possibility that it may be misinterpreted, the command “To the Rear March” will be replaced with “OK, Fellas, Turn Around;”

Marching cadences employing “Jodie” will now replace that archaic appellation with the more metro-sexually appropriate “Brucie:”

The humorous but now out-dated phrase “Drop your c**ks and grab your socks” is to be replaced with “Drop your c**ks and grab the fella’s over there;”

A “Junk on the bunk” inspection will now allow a soldier’s “junk” to actually be displayed on his bunk;

If it will not interfere with “his” duties, a “Latrine Queen” may wear a pair of high heel pumps if they are OD in color;

The rank of “Private” will be replaced with “Newby.”

“Short Arms Inspections” are no longer allowed unless at least 10” in length.

For those still smoking, as it could lead to serious unit cohesion break-down, the phrase “Field strip that butt” will no longer be used.

As we did deeper into the documents we were provided, we will add other changes.

PS: A bonus INVESTMENT TIP: Buy shares in firms that manufacture SOAP-ON-A-ROPE!


6 posted on 12/21/2010 9:12:28 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: iowaguy1972

they will deny it until it’s too late. and then it’s, well, too late.


7 posted on 12/21/2010 9:12:50 AM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: iowaguy1972; edpc

Something that hasn’t been mention in regard to the cessation of “don’t ask, don’t tell” is whether or not people who were previously involuntarily discharged because of open homosexuality will somehow be compensated for their dismissal. I expect this to become an issue and probably soon.


8 posted on 12/21/2010 9:13:19 AM PST by davisfh (Islam is a mental illness with global social consequences)
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To: iowaguy1972; Duchess47

There will be a draft. It may come sooner than we think. I think the Dems will try to push it through; you remember during GWBush’s time the Dems kept trying to bring back the draft.


9 posted on 12/21/2010 9:13:45 AM PST by marron
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To: iowaguy1972

The GOP House should cut all the weapons system budgets 50%. Watch how fast the defense industry wh**es get the Dems to reinstate DADT. I would say it would be reinstated in about 2 days.

The POS McCain got reelected by the big defense companies on the Phoenix Scottsdale border. I think it is General Dynamics. They have buildings a mile long there.

Our founders were not droooling idiots being brainwashed by TV and Al Waleed’s Fox is no better. We need to toss the clicker and start using our brains to take our country back.


10 posted on 12/21/2010 9:14:12 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: edpc

> Poorly.....which is what the proponents of this farce want.

Exactly.

What could be more “democratic” than a draft?

What better way to implement a draft than to cause voluntary enlistment to plummet, except of course for the sodomites looking to play soldier.


11 posted on 12/21/2010 9:15:54 AM PST by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Westbrook

Well, “Lady Gaga”, in her wisdom, said that those who can’t cope with the changes should just go home. In her dreams, we will have a politically correct military which celebrates diversity.

Then again, this “Lady Gaga” openly promotes herself and talks about her support and following in the “gay” community.

Of course, the liberal mind doesn’t think the same way that others do. The liberal S.F. supervisors once said that we really don’t even need a military. One of those liberal dudes said that in case of terror attack or other emergency, that our local police departments can do the job of defending the country. They have very different perceptions of life and the way the world is.


12 posted on 12/21/2010 9:22:01 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: davisfh

If you check the stats on the supposed 14,000 gays who were discharged, you’ll find that many were cases of insubordination or misconduct and the fact that the perps were gay came out in the inquiries.


13 posted on 12/21/2010 9:22:18 AM PST by apoxonu
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To: davisfh

Yes, there will be reparations for having been discharged or denied entry to the military under the old law.

Yes there will be lawsuits filed about these things. If the judges picked to rule on the cases are liberal, then we will see reparations and punitive damages awarded to the plaintiffs. Yes it will happen.


14 posted on 12/21/2010 9:24:00 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: iowaguy1972

It’ll wrap everything up in discrimination suits within a year. Every PFC that isn’t promoted twice in his first year will swear he is discriminated against because he’s gay. In addition, any time a queer is killed in combat there’s going to be an investigation to see if it was due to discrimination. The real goal isn’t to have homosexuals openly serving in the military, it’s to drive an affirmative action stake into the heart of the professional army.


15 posted on 12/21/2010 9:32:28 AM PST by Rashputin (Barry is totally insane and being kept medicated and on golf courses to hide the fact)
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To: iowaguy1972

Maybe it’s a good thing. The gays can blow the enemy to pieces!


16 posted on 12/21/2010 9:34:04 AM PST by jimmyo57
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To: Rashputin
Oh, and it's also so that the Veterans Dept. can be on the hook for treating AIDS for a large number of people even when Obamacare determines that it's not cost effective.
17 posted on 12/21/2010 9:35:16 AM PST by Rashputin (Barry is totally insane and being kept medicated and on golf courses to hide the fact)
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To: apoxonu

I’m hoping that you are right and that I’m worrying unnecessarily because, if I’m right, this could be a very expensive policy change.


18 posted on 12/21/2010 9:36:34 AM PST by davisfh (Islam is a mental illness with global social consequences)
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To: jimmyo57
"The gays can blow the enemy to pieces!"

If they read up on how the Afghans treated Russians they captured they're going to be surrendering to the Taliban in droves.

19 posted on 12/21/2010 9:37:14 AM PST by Rashputin (Barry is totally insane and being kept medicated and on golf courses to hide the fact)
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To: iowaguy1972

About a year ago (+/-) the Military Times did a poll that said 85% of enlisted troops said repeal would effect their reenlistment decisions. With this repeal the Dems pulled they pretty much destoryed our military and only the downturned economy will keep them for a few more years.


20 posted on 12/21/2010 9:45:55 AM PST by chris_bdba
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To: iowaguy1972

Hey I hear they want to offer the troops free phones and
no phone bill — sounds like bribery to me. Force them to tolerate homosexuals and sodomy then promise them Arpege.


21 posted on 12/21/2010 9:51:57 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: Responsibility2nd

can you reply “blogpimp” under the repeal of DADT? I thought congress just declared prostitution and sodomy acceptable?


22 posted on 12/21/2010 9:53:31 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: JohnBrowdie

If I were serving on active duty and requested to attend some Military Ball and saw two gay guys dancing the night away in wild abandon —If I barfed all over their dress uniforms would I be charged with a Hate Crime?


23 posted on 12/21/2010 9:55:24 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: iowaguy1972

Look for massive discharges of straight GI’s who express any negative views of this latest politically correct policy.


24 posted on 12/21/2010 10:04:23 AM PST by hdstmf
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To: iowaguy1972
Gives a whole new meaning to "Dress right; Dress!"


25 posted on 12/21/2010 10:06:11 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't skipper a boat, Can't drive, Can't ski, Can't fly. But they KNOW what's best!)
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To: N. Theknow

LOL


26 posted on 12/21/2010 10:31:23 AM PST by iowaguy1972
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To: davisfh

Yes, and most were discharged because they were trying to do it with straights or in public. Their lust always rules, because it is the most important aspect of their pathetic lives. Narcissistic to the bone.


27 posted on 12/21/2010 10:31:46 AM PST by savagesusie
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To: iowaguy1972

Kids today are growing up with gay issues being flaunted at them. Remember the movie, Brokeback Mountain?

Most people in Congress haven’t served and are living in a theoretical world.

I’m curious to see how young people in the military react to this.


28 posted on 12/21/2010 10:32:08 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Duchess47

“... and gays are drafted right alone with everyone else...”

I actually believe they want the draft back... for men and women. (politicians’s kids would be exempt, of course). Makes me think about Moochelle’s statement that the food bill was important for security to keep the young people thin in case of enlistment. Just a thought.


29 posted on 12/21/2010 10:36:05 AM PST by momtothree
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To: Dick Bachert

Wait, now you can ask and not hire......

Yeah, and you can tell now...... you know special badges


30 posted on 12/21/2010 10:43:58 AM PST by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: iowaguy1972
Americans want and need a gentle cash flow. There are no jobs and there will not be any in the near future. The military being almost the only employer provides that gentle flow of cash. Hence, there will be no appreciable effect upon enlistments or reenlistments. The days of principle are long past and very very few are motivated by principled beliefs.

Secondly, young people are optimistic and believe they can handle the nonsense which will result from the degeneration of our society and its institutions. In the long run they can't, but they still believe they can. This optimism will keep people in the military.

Thirdly, a particularily obnoxious sodomite will not leave the base as he would not return. In WWII my Dad had an NCO that was afraid to leave the base and would move heaven and earth to keep away from duty on a ship. He was such an ass that he would simply have never returned. In short, an obnoxious fag will simply die or end up missing.

31 posted on 12/21/2010 10:47:33 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: iowaguy1972

Heterosexual politicians that voted for repeal of DADT for any reason other than to seriously weaken the military forces are sadly out of touch and seriously misguided.

Real inefficiencies will arise in a few years after open homosexuals have risen in rank/rate perhaps starting at the level of Corporal. It is then that retention of heterosexual men is certain to plummet.

In many segments of the business world open male homosexuals typically bring to a supervisor-subordinate relationship a lifetime of “social difficulties” and generally are unable to effectively manage heterosexual men. Add to this, the fact that most heterosexual males who are confident in their sexuality resent being supervised by a homosexual who is not otherwise obviously very well qualified for the undertaking.

Move from the business world to the demanding environment of the military where there can be a constant higher level of stress – and where superiors are sometimes not very well qualified or skilled in the art of leadership – and the outcome is predictable.


32 posted on 12/21/2010 10:54:52 AM PST by frog in a pot (The nation is under attack and the only people on his enemies list are Americans.)
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To: iowaguy1972

I would say that in years past if you went into a recruiting office in drag they would throw you out.

Now they will make you officer material.


33 posted on 12/21/2010 10:57:29 AM PST by Eye of Unk (If your enemy is quick to anger, seek to irritate him. Sun Tzu, The Art of War.)
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To: momtothree; marron

Oh yes, I believe there will be a draft also. I think, however, that all the gays pushing for this and supporting it didn’t think that far ahead. They want the right to join the military openly but I don’t believe the majority actually want to serve and *gasp* maybe be killed.


34 posted on 12/21/2010 11:06:52 AM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: stubernx98
Special badges? Like THIS one?

(MAJOR SARCASM ALERT!) We have it on good authority that the Boy Scouts are being pushed by Kevin Jennings to add this new and distinctive badge to the Scout program:

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The only thing sadder than this development is that this sort of crap no longer makes enough folks angry!

35 posted on 12/21/2010 11:17:34 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: N. Theknow

Gives new meaning to the saying,
“never leave your buddies behind”


36 posted on 12/21/2010 12:24:00 PM PST by ELEFTARIA ("in war, truth is the first casualty")
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To: iowaguy1972
67 Percent of Marine Combat Forces Say Putting Homosexuals in Their Units Will Hurt Their Effectiveness in the Field, Says DOD Report
37 posted on 12/21/2010 12:26:25 PM PST by OB1kNOb (China is now the world's ant. America has become the world's grasshopper. Fear the coming winter.)
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To: frog in a pot

This can even apply to very liberal supervisors/managers ! They are all about themselves and they always talk about how society doesn’t benefit when you try to enjoy life like take vacation or enjoy the money you earn.

> In many segments of the business world open male homosexuals typically bring to a supervisor-subordinate relationship a lifetime of “social difficulties” and generally are unable to effectively manage heterosexual men.


38 posted on 12/21/2010 1:25:38 PM PST by CORedneck
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To: iowaguy1972

I would not want a dyke looking at my body,especially while in the shower.


39 posted on 12/21/2010 1:31:01 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it.)
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To: frog in a pot
Real inefficiencies will arise in a few years after open homosexuals have risen in rank/rate

I suspect we already have some occupying seats at the Joint Chiefs position.

40 posted on 12/21/2010 1:33:39 PM PST by itsahoot (We the people, allowed Republican leadership to get us here, only God's Grace can get us out.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Military is downsizing dramatically, it will not be consider a major employer by mid year 2010. I suspect thousands will be added to the unemployment roles from the military.


41 posted on 12/21/2010 6:23:38 PM PST by OldGoatCPO
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To: OldGoatCPO

I meant mid year 2011, sorry


42 posted on 12/21/2010 6:24:38 PM PST by OldGoatCPO
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To: itsahoot
My bet is not yet, but there are some "perfumed princes".
(credit to Col David Hackworth RIP)

Adm Roughead's gratuitous I am pleased... statement re the repeal was an unfortunate choice of words and could be seen by some as compromising the discretion of his officer corps.

Gen Amos USMC who was an early outspoken critic at the highest levels of any repeal, is not buying it.
His words, when faced with passage of the troublesome legislation, "I will lead..." is what one would expect of a Marine officer, or any military officer for that matter. He is telling his officer corps in essence to stand fast, he will do everthing in his power to make this right.
Too bad there are some critics here on FR that do not see that.

43 posted on 12/21/2010 6:28:48 PM PST by frog in a pot (The nation is under attack and the only people on his confidential enemies list are Americans.)
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To: iowaguy1972

Placemark.


44 posted on 12/21/2010 11:11:07 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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