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FCC Gives Government Power to Regulate Web Traffic
Wall Street Journal ^ | Amy Schatz

Posted on 12/21/2010 2:16:02 PM PST by TheRevolution1776

"For the first time, we'll have enforceable rules of the road to preserve Internet freedom and openness," FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski said Tuesday morning. He said the rules offered "a strong and sensible framework—one that protects Internet freedom and openness and promotes robust innovation and investment."

Republicans at the FCC and on Capitol Hill blasted the FCC's new rules, saying that they could stifle new investments in broadband networks and are unnecessary since there have been few complaints about Internet providers blocking or slowing web traffic.

The FCC's action "is not motivated by a tangible competitive harm or market failure," said Commissioner Meredith Attwell Baker, a Republican, who said she couldn't support the rule because the agency was intervening to regulate the Internet "because it wants to, not because it needs to."

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fcc; genachowski; internet; juliusgenachowski; notbreakingnews; regulations
I don't know if this is good or bad in the sense of what the rules now do. However, my biggest gripe with this is how it all came about. The FCC decided on it's own, after two decisions not too, to give powers to the government. Congress said no, the courts said no and they said to hell with it. This is my gripe, this is the erosion of the entire system that our founders established. I could care less right now what the rules entail, I am simply concerned with their blatant disregard of the system. Where is the FCC's Constitutional powers anyways ? All the powers given are to the Congress, Presidential office, Judicial and what's left to the states and the people ? I draw my line here. I say no further is this uncle going to go. Enough already. 1776, remember it.
1 posted on 12/21/2010 2:16:04 PM PST by TheRevolution1776
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To: TheRevolution1776

Will. Not. Stand.

Supremes shot this down once and will again.


2 posted on 12/21/2010 2:17:38 PM PST by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: TruthHound

Heads are going to roll over this.

Keep pushing us you jackasses. Karma is going to bite you hard.


3 posted on 12/21/2010 2:18:58 PM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative (Palin or 3rd party... no exceptions !)
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To: TheRevolution1776

FCC gives government power? Like HELL you say!! Government derives its just powers from the consent of the governed!!

There will be a day of reckoning!!


4 posted on 12/21/2010 2:19:42 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
They apparently think they didn't lose badly enough in November.

Looking for annihilation in 2012. Can't think of a better way to make that happen than to try to silence free speech on the Internet.

5 posted on 12/21/2010 2:21:21 PM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Kinda like the federal reserve telling a bank they can’t display Christmas decorations.


6 posted on 12/21/2010 2:21:56 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: TheRevolution1776
FCC Gives Government Power to Regulate Web Traffic

How can anyone give away something that's not theirs to give?
7 posted on 12/21/2010 2:22:45 PM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: TheRevolution1776
My concern is whether or not this will cause my bill to go down or up?

More than likely, the latter.

8 posted on 12/21/2010 2:23:21 PM PST by Realman30 ("I've already made a donation to Haiti. It's called taxes". . . . El Rushbo.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Government derives its just powers from the consent of the governed!!

That's what I thought. Are we no longer in America?
9 posted on 12/21/2010 2:24:04 PM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: TheRevolution1776

Whooooahhhhh!..... wait just a damn minute here!...

FCC gives Government the right????

Now it’s Government by the FCC?

Even liberals should understand the idiocy of this.

FCC was established and empowered BY the government!

Now the FCC gives power to the government?

Who the hell said this anyway?


10 posted on 12/21/2010 2:26:19 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: TheRevolution1776

At this point it is safe to argue that law is simply words on paper and we may need to abolish this current system.


11 posted on 12/21/2010 2:28:09 PM PST by TheRevolution1776 (2nd Amendment applies also to religous threats. I don't call 911 even after your down.)
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To: TheRevolution1776

Hey new Congress, you hear that?

There’s a snotty regulatory agency that thinks your business is their business.

Sounds to me, in this age of trillion dollar deficits, like they could stand to be downsized.

The FCC, with 10 employees, could easily move their department into a couple of Winnebagos in the parking lot of the Smithsonian.


12 posted on 12/21/2010 2:28:16 PM PST by lurk
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To: ohioWfan

“Looking for annihilation in 2012.”

Assuming we can still use the web for political purposes then, yes, annihilation.


13 posted on 12/21/2010 2:29:10 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Realman30
My concern is whether or not this will cause my bill to go down or up?

Don't be concerned. The Central Government will subsidize your bill, it won't cost you a dime. Of course you will only be able to go to sites approved by the government, but this is not one of your concerns.

14 posted on 12/21/2010 2:30:06 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
Reeducation camps are coming and if there were a Senate vote at least 11 RINO’s would agree.
15 posted on 12/21/2010 2:32:23 PM PST by ChiMark
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
Reeducation camps are coming and if there were a Senate vote at least 11 RINO’s would agree.
16 posted on 12/21/2010 2:32:23 PM PST by ChiMark
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To: Safrguns

Okay so I read this thing and like y’all, I’m wary.

At it’s least dangerous, this thing is the work of some business or other that wants to be able to transmit wireless data with NO interference from the Internet providers. Seems some Internet providers, Comcast is listed as one, will deliberately slow down data transmission in some cases. In the example provided in the article is was transmitting data from peer-to-peer files. Like If I wanted to send all my files over the Internet to you. The Internet provider deliberately slowed down these kinds of transmissions to better allow for other web/email users faster access that these bulky transmissions were slowing down.

But as is pointed out over and over, it really isn’t that big of a problem so I’m not buying that this is why the FCC wants its hands on our wireless transmitted data.

The bigger thing here, damn I must be dreaming, but I could swear we that this is an agency of the government voting that the government, in the form of this agency of course, has the right to regulate this kind of stuff.

It’s like I’m part of a human relations committee appointed by my company to study pay rates and benefits for a this same company. One day, boom, this committee votes that we can now, BOOM, hire and fire people.

Heh.

You can’t make this stuff up.

Next, the FCC will vote themselves the power to implement the death penalty, well why the hell not?


17 posted on 12/21/2010 2:36:46 PM PST by Fishtalk (Dance like nobody's watching; Sing like nobody's listening; Blog like nobody's reading.)
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To: Jim Robinson
FCC gives government power? Like HELL you say!! Government derives its just powers from the consent of the governed!! There will be a day of reckoning!!

There has to be more than just email writing and calling Congress, AND SOON.
18 posted on 12/21/2010 2:37:20 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: TheRevolution1776

The people have proven they can’t be trusted with Free Speech.

So we will take it from you.

Now pay your taxes, we need raises.


19 posted on 12/21/2010 2:40:13 PM PST by Tzimisce (It's just another day in Obamaland.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Unfortunately that is no longer true. We have rulers who govern by fiat. My only question is when are we going to wrest the power from them and back where it belongs.


20 posted on 12/21/2010 2:42:32 PM PST by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Congress will take it away.........hopefully.


21 posted on 12/21/2010 2:45:05 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Congress will take it away.........hopefully.


22 posted on 12/21/2010 2:46:11 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: TheRevolution1776
I don't know if this is good or bad in the sense of what the rules now do.

I don't either. Rules can be guidelines or they can be weapons. Worst case involves leftists utilizing every nuance to restrict thought-crime aka freedom of speech. Best case scenario is another layer of bureaucratic busy bodies trying justify their jobs. More bad imo.
23 posted on 12/21/2010 2:48:37 PM PST by allmost
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To: Cheerio

Roger that, have been thru 3 boxes, one left.


24 posted on 12/21/2010 2:49:31 PM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: Jim Robinson
Government derives its just powers from the consent of the governed!!

That is how it supposed to be. That isn't how it is or how it has been for a while now.

$64k question is... How do we get back to that standard?

25 posted on 12/21/2010 2:51:56 PM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: TheRevolution1776
The power of the government is ENUMERATED in the Constitution. The FCC can not grant new powers that are not enumerated. They will get shot down in court again. There should be some kind of penalty applied to the FCC commissioners for doing this AGAIN. They were slapped down last time. Removing them from office and assessing a big fine for contempt of court would be a good start.
26 posted on 12/21/2010 2:53:03 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: TheRevolution1776

"And I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords." /sarc

27 posted on 12/21/2010 2:53:34 PM PST by anymouse (God didn't write this sitcom we call life, he's just the critic.)
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To: Dead Corpse
$64k question is... How do we get back to that standard?

Not sure but, prepare for the worst.

28 posted on 12/21/2010 3:01:22 PM PST by houeto (Government derives its just powers from the consent of the governed.)
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To: TheRevolution1776
regulate
29 posted on 12/21/2010 3:02:33 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: houeto
I'm prepared. I've been prepared. I've encouraged and helped others prepare as well.

Fat lot of good it's doing us. RINO's rolling over faster than the National debt clock... Dem's out of control. Government organizations with no Constitutional authority to exist in the first place re-writing their charter absent legislation. Courts ignoring the Constitution and the Bill of Rights...

Things aren't as bad as most folks fear.

They are much worse.

30 posted on 12/21/2010 3:06:12 PM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: TheRevolution1776

Among other things this is is probably a back door to eventually start collecting federal sales tax on internet purchases.


31 posted on 12/21/2010 3:12:32 PM PST by mowowie
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To: TheRevolution1776
enforceable rules of the road to preserve Internet freedom and openness

Newspeak much?

32 posted on 12/21/2010 3:19:24 PM PST by douginthearmy
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To: TheRevolution1776

“FCC gives government power...” Well, I stopped reading right there. When did government get it’s power from an AGENCY “of” the government. This BS has got to stop folks or we will be left with no option but revolution. I do not like that prospect but it is more and more on my mind.


33 posted on 12/21/2010 3:33:08 PM PST by mc5cents
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To: Realman30

It is an opportunity to raise prices. For years the competition has driven down prices - who can give more for less. Now the rules say that every provider MUST provide bandwidth no matter what you are doing.

Right now bandwidth is shared and oversold. I can sell 100 - 5 meg connections and not need 500 megs - I only need about 50 megs or might get by with 35 megs. I monitor it and know when I hit the limit. So the guy who watches lots of movies online might get a little choppy once in a while. Not that I do anything on purpose - but just the nature of things.

Now, however that customer has a reason to complain. His complaints might land me in trouble with the FCC. So rather than let that happen I will raise my price and buy enough bandwidth (maybe buy 100 megs just to be sure). I incur extra cost which I then pass on to my customers. Everyone will do it so I won’t be the high priced option.

So the short answer is that your price will likely go up.


34 posted on 12/21/2010 3:37:28 PM PST by msrngtp2002 (Just my opinion.)
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To: TheRevolution1776

How can the FCC “give” powers to the government?


35 posted on 12/21/2010 3:44:06 PM PST by Jim Noble (It's the tyranny, stupid!)
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