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Barney Frank: Straight and Gay Soldiers Must Shower Together, But Not Men and Women
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Posted on 12/21/2010 2:25:55 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Barney Frank: Straight and Gay Soldiers Must Shower Together, But Not Men and Women Tuesday, December 21, 2010 By Nicholas Ballasy

(CNSNews.com) - Rep. Barney Frank (D.-Mass.) says he agrees with the recommendation of a Department of Defense (DOD) working group that straight and gay military personnel of the same gender should be required to shower together when the repeal of the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” law goes into effect.

Frank, however, said Armed Forces personnel of opposite sexes should not shower together.

“What do you think happens in gyms all over America? What do you think happens in the House of Representatives? Of course people shower with homosexuals. What a silly issue. What do you think goes wrong with showering with homosexuals? Do you think the spray makes it catching? I mean people shower with homosexuals in college dormitories, in gyms where people play sports; in gyms elsewhere. It is a complete non-issue. ” Frank told CNSNews.com.

CNSNews.com then asked Frank why he thinks it is a non-issue.

“To accept the principle that homosexuals can’t shower with other people is a degree of discrimination that goes far beyond this. We don’t get ourselves dry cleaned. We tend to take showers when we go to the gym; when we play sports,” he responded.

Rep. Frank continued, “The notion that knowing that someone is gay or lesbian as opposed to knowing that they are gay or lesbian people that have to pretend who they are; that that somehow makes a difference is pretty silly,”

Frank was also asked if he thinks male and female military personnel should be able to shower together.

“No that would disrupt people,” he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: barney; barneyfrank; dadt; fwank; homosexualagenda
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To: Sub-Driver
“Report of the Comprehensive Review of the Issues Associated with a Repeal of ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’” --that permitting heterosexuals to use separate showers, bathrooms and bunking facilities from homosexuals of the same gender would “stigmatize” homosexuals and be “reminiscent of ‘separate but equal’ facilities for blacks prior to the 1960s.”

What a crock! Are women stigmatized when they have to shower and sleep separate from men? People are segregated by sex every freakin' day.. It's Nothing like racial segregation blacks went through!
21 posted on 12/21/2010 2:42:14 PM PST by divine_moment_of_facts (Give me Liberty.. or I'll get up and get it for myself!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Barney Frank showers with homos all the time. He should know. Whatta frickin pig!!

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Yeah, and he makes he a point to drop the soap a mimunim of three times.

22 posted on 12/21/2010 2:45:21 PM PST by Realman30 ("I've already made a donation to Haiti. It's called taxes". . . . El Rushbo.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Bet Bawney wants to join . He would put in for shower attendant and soap picker upper.


23 posted on 12/21/2010 2:45:40 PM PST by Cyman
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To: brytlea

Just be careful not to drop the soap...


24 posted on 12/21/2010 2:46:25 PM PST by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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To: brytlea

That is my thinking too.


25 posted on 12/21/2010 2:47:19 PM PST by razorback-bert (Some days it's not worth chewing through the straps.)
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To: Sub-Driver

When they shower at the gym, they then LEAVE the gym. They don’t go back to the barracks where they have to sleep in the next bunk over from the person. It IS different.


26 posted on 12/21/2010 2:48:23 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: Sub-Driver

What is unclear to me is what follows the repeal of DADT. I assume that the gays are not thinking that we go back to the policy in place before DADT.

What is actually needed now is MAMT. Must Ask-Must Tell.

If gays want to serve openly - let’s make sure they do. Then folks can KNOW who they are showering alongside, and more importantly who they are fighting alongside.


27 posted on 12/21/2010 2:48:29 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: mylife
Seriously, when was the last time anyone here showered with another soldier besides bootcamp?

Intense physical training remains a "job requirement" long after bootcamp. During my pre-retirement 20 years, I never saw a military gym shower that was anything other than open bay.

To be fair, I don't know about female facilities.

28 posted on 12/21/2010 2:48:29 PM PST by TontoKowalski
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To: TheConservativeParty

Nobody wants to shower with Barney which is why he is mad. I cannot believe that he still keeps winning elections after allowing his boyfriend to run a brothel out of his house in D.C. Says something about the voters in his district.


29 posted on 12/21/2010 2:49:25 PM PST by juliej
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To: TontoKowalski

I just went home and showered.


30 posted on 12/21/2010 2:51:14 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Sub-Driver

what do you think happens in the bath houses in SFO?


31 posted on 12/21/2010 2:52:20 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: wetgundog

One good thing. Barney would be totally uninterested in me.


32 posted on 12/21/2010 2:54:24 PM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: juliej

Running a homosexual brothel is a democrat resume enhancement.


33 posted on 12/21/2010 2:55:10 PM PST by TheConservativeParty (Read my lipstick, I am Sarah Palin)
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To: razorback-bert

How long will it be before someone sues to that effect? It is discriminatory to have mens/womens/ facilities? And use the fact that homosexuals do not have separate facilities?


34 posted on 12/21/2010 2:55:28 PM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Do heterosexual soldiers have any rights at all?


35 posted on 12/21/2010 2:56:47 PM PST by abigailsmybaby ( I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did. Yogi Berra)
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Frank was also asked if he thinks male and female military personnel should be able to shower together.

"No that would disrupt people", he said.


And homosexualists grabbing somebody
else's buttocks would not disrupt people,
is that correct, Barney ?


36 posted on 12/21/2010 2:57:28 PM PST by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I’m starting my own military themed soap on a rope company.


37 posted on 12/21/2010 2:58:08 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: Sub-Driver

I think the murder rate will go up in the military.


38 posted on 12/21/2010 3:01:21 PM PST by Always Independent
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To: Sub-Driver

Doesn’t surprise me... Back in college, boyfriends and girlfriends couldn’t live in the same dorm room. However, they had no problems with letting homosexual lovers live in the same rooms.

Mark


39 posted on 12/21/2010 3:01:37 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Sub-Driver
Time for a new sign.


40 posted on 12/21/2010 3:03:06 PM PST by Disambiguator
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