Skip to comments.Is Rudy Giuliani a 2012 dark horse?
Posted on 12/22/2010 7:09:21 AM PST by StatenIsland
As a 2008 primary front-runner, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani tanked. But as a 2012 dark horse, he could do surprisingly well.
Its not because Giuliani has shifted; its because the Republican Party has. The 2010 election was less about social conservatism than it was fiscal conservatism, and that aligns with Giulianis socially moderate and fiscally conservative ideology.
There is another promising wind of change blowing Giulianis way, one thats less ideological. This isnt the era of kinder, gentler politicians. This is the age of former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie three politicians whose appeal lives, partly, in their aggressive rhetoric.
But, according to Giuliani, he started the political fad. When explaining Christies appeal to the New York Post, Giuliani said: Whats making him popular is that hes not afraid to be called a bully. I used to be proud to be called a bully, and Christie would call me and tell me, Im going to do it just the way you did.' "
Thus, both the national ideology and aesthetics of these political times are more favorable to Giuliani than, perhaps, at any time in his political career.
So whats he been up to?
While Giuliani maintained his visibility at a national level this year through frequent appearances on cable political shows, he also showed the GOP that he was willing to do the less glamorous work of crossing the country on behalf of Republican candidates.
In the run-up to the midterm elections, Giuliani made high-profile visits on behalf of Pennsylvania Republican Senate candidate Pat Toomey, Illinois gubernatorial candidate Bill Brady, Illinois senatorial candidate Mark Kirk, West Virginia senatorial candidate John Raese and many more, garnering significant media attention along the way.
Skeptics often claim that Giulianis political activity is simply good business, since it keeps him relevant. For example, Auburn University shelled out $85,000 earlier this year for a Giuliani speech on leadership an amount that might be less if he werent flirting with a bid. But that obscures the fact that his success, financially, is a good sign of his continuing appeal, politically.
The question for any presidential aspirant is whether he or she is building a broad case for the presidency. At the very least, Giuliani has built a broad one against the current president, slamming Barack Obama on everything from foreign policy to being, well, too New York.
Earlier this year, he questioned the presidents philosophical approach to foreign policy, not to mention his actual record, which hes frequently criticized on missile defense, terrorism and Middle East relationships.
President Obama thinks we can all hold hands, sing songs and have peace symbols. North Korea and Iran are not singing along with the president.
And while Gingrich literally wrote a book, christening the Obama administration a secular-socialist machine, Giuliani has been similarly critical of the presidents economic policy, telling conservative bloggers that Obama is trying to turn the United States into a European social democracy.
Then theres the ironic and primary-friendly charge that Obama has too much of the mayors hometown blood in him.
The president may be suffering from the inability to see the rest of America from having a warped view in New York, Giuliani told ABCs The View last month.
Fire in the belly:
Giuliani has refused several times this year to close the door on a bid. Most recently, he told The Wall Street Journal that its been difficult to give up the dream.
Its always in your mind when youve done something like this, he said.
And its possible that his poor showing in 2008 hasnt done much to diminish his confidence in another bid. Earlier this year, Giuliani told The Washington Post that his failure could have been as simple as bad timing.
You know, I was conflicted about running when I did ... I dont think any Republican could have won in 2008, he said.
That being said, if he did do it again, its not likely hed take any chances and stake the race on Florida, as he did in 2008.
If youre going to run for president and get nominated, you better win Iowa [or] New Hampshire. By then, its probably over. If it isnt over by then, its over by South Carolina, he told the Post.
What lies ahead:
In the end, its perhaps smartest to appeal to a former New York state representative, Guy Molinari, who once told reporters of Giuliani: Rudy is Rudy. Rudy is either going to run or not based on how he feels. Hes not a guy who looks at statistics and worries about the fact that ... maybe he could win, maybe he cant win.
And that makes him a wildcard, a dark horse and a worthy figure to watch in 2012.
Will that be his official “uniform” for Commander of the new DADT military? LOL
Somebody already said this down the thread and I’m too lazy to look. The MSM is turning to Rudy because they know that Mittens, Huckleberry, et al don’t have a chance against Palin. They are going to be running all kinds of folks out that THEY say are presidential material.
Egads! You’re back! I haven’t seen you in years - but, of course, your Rudy fixation brings you back to life, lol!
I supported Rudy in 2008. He lost. I think his time has passed.
Go, Sarah, go!
If you think Rudy is A-OK, you're probably on the wrong website, quite frankly.
The guy we want is Chris Christie.
What a ridiculous notion. Does this idiot really think that GOP primary voters have changed so much that they would embrace a “Republican” who favors partial-birth abortion, gun control and special rights for gays?
And by that I mean not just the overt terrorists (plenty of GOP'ers including Palin and Newt have done that) but their enablers in Saudi, Kuwait, and Pakistan.
I honestly don't think you would ever see him holding hands with, much less bowing to, the Saudi scum.
There needs to be a foreign policy role for someone who has that stand. But I agree, not POTUS.
I agree...couldn’t he run for mayor again after sitting out a couple of terms?
He did well for the city and he seems happy there.
I disagree. Hannity has consistently railed against oBama's policies from the beginning better than most broadcasters.
If Rudy were to seriously run as a pro-Life candidate, he'd might have chance. However, I prefer Palin/West.
People that don’t like him had better realize Independent voters and a large portion of tea partiers are LESS social conservative. Just sayin...
Realistically I don’t think anyone who would do as I want... disavow the U.N. immediately and downsize government and do away with political correctness would have a chance, quite sadly. The more moderate voters want fiscal conservatism.
I wish West would run.
He’s a long shot, not a dark horse...I prefer him over the GOP moderates (Romney, Pawlenty,et al) and Huckleberry...the author makes an interesting point about the lessening of influence of social conservatives. On a national level, there is not much talk about abortion and the loss on DADT has set the stage for gay marriage at a national level that will be difficult to stop by 2012. If that’s the case, economy voters may outvote the social ones...regardless, I still see the GOP odds at Palin 50%, Romney 50% at this point in time...magritte
I like West
Are you claiming that every long-time poster to this site must agree with you on everything?
Your screen name is that of my favorite artist. Your tagline is from my favorite author. Well done!!
LTC West is brilliant and unafraid of political correctness.
I pray, LTC West will be the dark horse and I dare the media to bash him.
Now read this thread, fwiw: Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?