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Bowl preparations hearten Irish coach (ND player passports pulled)
The Journal Gazette (Indiana) ^ | December 22, 2010 | Tony Krausz

Posted on 12/22/2010 5:54:04 PM PST by CedarDave

Notre Dame’s practice Tuesday gave coach Brian Kelly a good indication that the Irish (7-5) are ready to play Miami (7-5) in the Sun Bowl on Dec. 31 in El Paso, Texas.

Notre Dame completes practices in South Bend today before the team disperses for Christmas, and the coaches and players will reconvene in El Paso on Sunday.

The Irish will head to Texas with no major injury issues.

Kelly is also making sure there is no chance his players will wander into Juarez, Mexico, which is plagued by drug-related murders, by taking their passports.

“That’s serious. Don’t go over the border, or you may not come back, simply,” Kelly said. “Now I know El Paso is the safest city in the country, but it’s serious. This isn’t, ‘Hey, let’s give it a shot, guys, and jump in the car and see what it’s like.’ You can’t go there, or nobody is going to be able to help you. There’s just been too much turmoil. … You take the passports, they can’t get back. These guys are smart enough to know that.”

(Excerpt) Read more at journalgazette.net ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; US: Florida; US: Indiana; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: juarez; miami; notredame
The Sun Bowl stadium is so close to the border that in the past shots fired in an August gunfight south of the Rio Grande have actually hit the school.

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1 posted on 12/22/2010 5:54:07 PM PST by CedarDave
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To: CedarDave
Since when do you need a passport to go to Juarez?
2 posted on 12/22/2010 5:57:14 PM PST by Cisco Nix (Real Conservatives stay sober and focused)
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To: CedarDave

Passport? To travel to Mexico.........Since when?


3 posted on 12/22/2010 5:59:37 PM PST by outhousepatrol
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To: Cisco Nix

You don’t need one to go there. You need one to GET BACK!

Since last year you need a passport to return from either Mexico or Canada.


4 posted on 12/22/2010 5:59:42 PM PST by CedarDave (Tagline being updated...)
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To: Cisco Nix
Since when do you need a passport to go to Juarez?

You don't. But you'll need it to get back.

5 posted on 12/22/2010 6:00:04 PM PST by Always A Marine
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To: CedarDave

Breaking news......Racist Notre Dame coach hates Mexicans.


6 posted on 12/22/2010 6:00:57 PM PST by LeonardFMason
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To: Cisco Nix
Since when do you need a passport to go to Juarez?

June, 2009. A passport card or an "enhanced drivers license" (as issued by a few states and indicating citizenship) will also do. These aren't necessary to enter Mexico, as far as I know, but they are necessary to get back into the US.

7 posted on 12/22/2010 6:02:30 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Always A Marine

“You don’t. But you’ll need it to get back.”

It’s been 10 years but I use to cross the border all the time. Didn’t need no stink’n passport!


8 posted on 12/22/2010 6:02:37 PM PST by Cisco Nix (Real Conservatives stay sober and focused)
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To: CedarDave

“Since last year”

Hummmmm. Didn’t know that.


9 posted on 12/22/2010 6:03:45 PM PST by Cisco Nix (Real Conservatives stay sober and focused)
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To: outhousepatrol
Do I need a passport to travel to Mexico?

As of June 2009, US citizens entering the United States by land or sea must present a passport or other WHTI compliant travel document such as a passport card. The passport requirement is waived in some cases for minors. Read about travel documents for kids.

Check the link for details. NM driver's licenses don't count as a passport card, BTW as they are available to illegal aliens upon presentation of a utility bill or rent receipt!

10 posted on 12/22/2010 6:04:21 PM PST by CedarDave (Tagline being updated...)
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To: Cisco Nix

Well not just a passport, BUT they have changed the regs on border entry even with Mehico...

http://www.motorlink.cn/html/newsletter/en20100707.html

Beginning June 1, 2009 all persons age 16 and older will be required to present:

* US Passport
* US Passport Card
* State issued Enhanced Driver’s License
* Enhanced Tribal Card
* US Military ID with Military Travel Orders
* US Merchant Marine Document
* Form I-872 American Indian Card


11 posted on 12/22/2010 6:31:29 PM PST by muffaletaman
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To: Cisco Nix

El Paso is FAAAAAR from the safest city!!!

It wasn’t nice to be there in 1963. Much worse now.


12 posted on 12/22/2010 6:50:24 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: CedarDave

ND si a scum school that gives awards to muslim who support partial birth abortion and also jails anti baby killing protesters. Eff ND and the obama loving NCAA.


13 posted on 12/22/2010 6:59:11 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: CedarDave

Maybe one of the players can take one of those bullets for the liberal bishops who support open-borders and liberal ND which supports partial birth abortion.


14 posted on 12/22/2010 7:00:32 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: CedarDave

So it’s not enough that the Notre Dame coach can tell the players not to go there?

Oh, I forgot, it’s a team filled with thugs and rapists. A team from a school that gives an honorary degree to Obama.


15 posted on 12/22/2010 7:03:00 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: CedarDave

Notre Dame still has a football team?


16 posted on 12/22/2010 7:10:27 PM PST by wolf24
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To: ladyjane
Kelly is a big time Massachusetts liberal who assuredly is in favor of open borders and amnesty. Keep his players home and bring Juarez to El Paso.
17 posted on 12/22/2010 7:19:22 PM PST by Tail Gunner John
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To: ladyjane

thugs and rapists?

Care to elaborate? (This is a test to see if you’ve truly studied.)


18 posted on 12/22/2010 7:29:05 PM PST by Cousin Eddie
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To: CedarDave

You only need a passport to get back if you choose to go through the border checkpoints. We have many millions of undocumented visitors.


19 posted on 12/22/2010 7:37:02 PM PST by iowamark
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To: Cousin Eddie

A few years ago four players were arrested. Three of them were charged with rape. The other apparently didn’t rape the girl but just held her down. Just recently another football player was accused of rape. Some say Notre Dame has not done much to screen their recruits and ensure that they behave well.


20 posted on 12/22/2010 8:08:55 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: Cousin Eddie

I should have added - if the coach needs to take their passports it’s clear he doesn’t trust his players.


21 posted on 12/22/2010 8:11:35 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane

And don’t forget that ND player who spit on a woman cop a few years ago, and got worked over pretty well at the station. Neither the student athlete nor the university wanted to make an issue of the old fashioned southern justice.


22 posted on 12/22/2010 8:46:21 PM PST by PAR35
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To: CedarDave

Let’s see: a student videographer died on the practice field, and a coed was raped by a football player, was delayed/denied justice by the university and killed herself ... sounds like a successful season! LET’S GO TO A BOWL GAME!


23 posted on 12/22/2010 9:29:15 PM PST by Judges Gone Wild (Who are these uncircumcised to oppose the armies of the Living God?)
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To: ladyjane

As I said, this is a test, and you’ve failed miserably, because you didn’t do you’re homework.

In the case a few years ago, Notre Dame expelled the players BEFORE the trial. In fact, it happened immediately after the charges were made. ND didn’t mess around. BTW, the players were found not guilty.

In the recent case, the football player was NOT accused of rape, even though shoddy press reporting implied just that. The female student had the player to her room and she accused the football player of touching her breast. It stopped at that — touching her breast. That was her entire charge. Read the DA’s report. It was a tragic situation but not rape.

Expecting ANY organization to screen people before they enter and achieve 100% perfection in foreseeing any future transgression is an insane expectation. It doesn’t work in school, business, nor the military (including the academies). Heck, we do a piss poor job pre-screening politicians, including a few of our presidents.

What matters is how institutions respond to the exception...the case where something out of bounds may have occurred. Do they give give actual transgressors a slap on the wrist or do they act decisively? Also, do they act prudently to ensure those falsely charged or smeared beyond the underlying truth of events are not figuratively lynched? ND doesn’t mess around.


24 posted on 12/22/2010 11:16:21 PM PST by Cousin Eddie
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To: Judges Gone Wild

Cedar, learn the facts before making defamatory charges like that. A co-ed was NOT raped. The only charge that she made was that he touched her breast. That’s it. She NEVER claimed that he raped her. Per press reports (although not the yellow journalism that neglects the following facts because it wants to gain readers by implying things that aren’t so), she suffered from depression, was on medication, and had contemplated suicide well before the alleged incident. But stop accusing people of rape — even the poor young lady NEVER claimed anything remotely resembling a rape. Read the DA’s report...it’s quite illuminating.


25 posted on 12/22/2010 11:25:16 PM PST by Cousin Eddie
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To: Cousin Eddie

Sorry Cedar, read the poster/postee in reverse. Meant to say “Judges gone wold” should learn the facts and stop making scurrilous charges.


26 posted on 12/22/2010 11:28:14 PM PST by Cousin Eddie
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To: Cousin Eddie

Dear Cousin Eddie. You must be a Notre Dame graduate. Congratulations.

Your school is not perfect. Far from it. The football team has a history of assaults and rapes.

The current football team is so out of control the coach has to confiscate the players’ passports to make sure they don’t go south for drinking and whoring.

BTW - I hear donations are way down. Way down.


27 posted on 12/23/2010 7:50:24 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: Cousin Eddie

Thank you for the correction.


28 posted on 12/23/2010 8:31:25 AM PST by Judges Gone Wild (Who are these uncircumcised to oppose the armies of the Living God?)
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