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Robert Pozen could give Brown run for his money
Boston Herald ^ | 12/23/10 | Joe Battenfeld

Posted on 12/23/2010 10:56:03 AM PST by raccoonradio

The biggest question facing Democrats as they head into 2011 is this: Who has the guts, money and potential electability to take on U.S. Sen. Scott Brown?

Capuano? Khazei? Lynch? Frank? Murray? Setti Warren? As Brown likes to say, give me a break.

Vicki Kennedy? Maybe. She says she has no interest, but she’s been acting like a candidate.

Well, here’s another intriguing possibility: Robert Pozen.

You may not know him, but Pozen is a legend in the investment world who’s made many millions of dollars helping run huge financial services firms such as Fidelity and MFS Investment.

The Herald has learned that Pozen, a Democat, has been seriously talking to party insiders about challenging Brown, although he hasn’t made a decision. Pozen did not return phone calls from the Herald left at his office at Harvard Business School.

Pozen is no stranger to the political world. He was one of two token Democrats serving in former Gov. Mitt Romney’s cabinet but left after only a year. Yet Romney gives a shout out to Pozen in his book, “No Apology,” saying he’s intrigued by Pozen’s plan to save Social Security. So Pozen has potential crossover appeal to independents and Republicans.

But Pozen’s biggest asset in a race against Brown can be summed up in one word: money.

Not only does Pozen know how to make money for people, he has a lot of it to spend in a campaign. Brown will have about $10 million in his war chest even before the campaign starts, and no Democrat can come close to matching that, except a multi-millionaire.

Now for the negatives. Pozen is a businessman and academician, a combination that usually proves disastrous in politics. One political insider describes his personality as “Silberesque” — referring to former Boston University chief John Silber, whose temper undid his candidacy for governor in 1990.

Pozen also lacks in the charisma department. He could make Martha Coakley look like Lady Gaga by comparison.

There is still another Democrat who can’t be ruled out of the 2012 mix — Gov. Deval Patrick. Yes, I know, Patrick has said over and over he will serve out his next term, but do we really believe that? Bill Weld challenged John Kerry in the middle of his second term. If Patrick knocked the GOP’s rock star out of the Senate, he would immediately vault into presidential contention.

By next fall, if the field of Democrats includes a bunch of incumbent congressmen and others who don’t have the last name Kennedy, Democratic voters may be begging Patrick to run against Brown.

And he just might do it.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 2012election; pozen; scottbrown; senate

1 posted on 12/23/2010 10:56:07 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

Herald poll currently (Dem candidates only I guess)
Who do you think will take on U.S. Sen. Scott Brown?

10% - Robert Pozen

28% - Vicki Kennedy

27% - Mike Capuano

2% - Alan Khazei

17% - Stephen Lynch

7% - Barney Frank

4% - Therese Murray

4% - Setti Warren


Khazei and Capuano were candidates in last yr’s Dem primary, along with Celtics co-owner Steve Pagliuca, who spent the most and finished last. Coakley of course got the nomination.

Who would face Brown in a poss. Republican primary?
Jeff Perry? (ran for 10th & lost, scandal in past)
If a more conservative candidate could be found,
would they survive the final? This is Massachusetts.


2 posted on 12/23/2010 10:58:38 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

Replace one liberal with another liberal.
What does it matter?


3 posted on 12/23/2010 11:00:11 AM PST by Artemis Webb (What, if not a bagel and coffee, confirms the existence of a just and loving God?)
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To: raccoonradio

What we need is a conservative to support.


4 posted on 12/23/2010 11:00:23 AM PST by Baynative (Truth is treason in an empire of lies)
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To: raccoonradio

Brown is a HUGE disappointment!


5 posted on 12/23/2010 11:01:30 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: raccoonradio

One comment to article said that it doesn’t matter who runs against Brown—if they have a D next to their name, they will win.

Another comment from Kathyf (note: Brown was on Howie Carr’s
show last night and defended himself, saying “do you want someone with you 80 per cent of the time or 0 per cent of the time?”)


Kathyf’s comment:
“For those conservatives who say they are disappointed with Brown, have you forgotten:

1. His refusal to go along with pro-amnesty DREAM Act
2. Vote against Elena Kagan
3. Pledge not to sponsor earmarks
4. Opposition to the $1.2 trillion spending bill, which helped kill it
5. Vote against Obama’s nomination of a radical SEIU lawyer for NLRB
6. Opposition to cap and trade (thereby dooming it)
7. His bill to strip home-grown terrorists of their citizenship
8. His vote to extend the Bush tax cuts (don’t forget, 8 of our 10 whacky Dem congressmen voted against the tax cut, even when it was sweetened with an extension of unemployment benefits).
9. His bill to tighten sanctions on Iran until they give up their nuclear weapons program
10. His attack on Harvard elitists for their refusal to allow ROTC on campus

“Brown is a good conservative. Does he vote with Republicans all the time? No, sometimes he will vote off, but he said when he ran for US Senate that he was not going to march in lockstep with either party, and he hasn’t.” (end of Kathyf’s comment. I will add that anti-Brown forces ran an ad just before the election saying “Who is Scott Brown, really? A Republican. Who will vote in lockstep with the Republican party”. They were wrong, as he has sometimes voted with Democrats...but take note that he has not voted in lockstep with the Dems, that’s for sure.

How would Coakley have voted on these issues?)


6 posted on 12/23/2010 11:02:14 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio
"But Pozen’s biggest asset in a race against Brown can be summed up in one word: money."

Money might not the big issue, because Scott Brown isn't going to see a stinking dime from Tea Party advocates this time around!

7 posted on 12/23/2010 11:03:00 AM PST by Baynative (Truth is treason in an empire of lies)
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To: raccoonradio
Future Senator Vicky Kennedy seen her with her now deceased husband Ted. "...Kennedy was elected in November of 2012 and says she plans to do her best for Massachusetts for many years to come..."

8 posted on 12/23/2010 11:04:29 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio
How would Coakley have voted on these issues?)

Coakley would have become a leader of anti-American and anti-father forces in the Congress.

The (D) nominee in 2012 will be Deval Patrick.

9 posted on 12/23/2010 11:06:56 AM PST by Jim Noble (It's the tyranny, stupid!)
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To: Artemis Webb

Read the comment by Kathyf in this thread. In those votes he doesn’t sound liberal to me.

Nominate a no-name conservative candidate in the GOP primary, have them defeat Brown, then see Vicky Kennedy win 90 to 10.
There, that’s better.


10 posted on 12/23/2010 11:07:13 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

he is against obamacare, spending and amnesty. Given this is MA, with zero gop congressmen, I’m ok with him.


11 posted on 12/23/2010 11:07:21 AM PST by heiss
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To: Baynative

This is Massachusetts. Here is a complete list of totally-conservatives:


12 posted on 12/23/2010 11:08:02 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: Artemis Webb; Ann Archy; Baynative

Brown is significant because he caucuses with the Republicans. This could put Republican chairmen in all the committees, so that the Republicans determine what legislation comes to the floor.

This is far more valuable than any vote on legislation. Anything that doesn’t get to the floor won’t pass, even if Brown would have joined the Democrats on it.


13 posted on 12/23/2010 11:09:07 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: Baynative

Scott Brown, like Barack Obama is a perfect example of style over substance.
The only difference is that Obama is dangerous because he is truly evil while Scott Brown is dangerous because he is a spineless idiot.


14 posted on 12/23/2010 11:09:26 AM PST by acapesket
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To: raccoonradio
This is Massachusetts. Here is a complete list of totally-conservatives:

Absolutely... besides conservatives can't even agree on who is a "totally-conservative". Pfffttttt...

15 posted on 12/23/2010 11:10:18 AM PST by rhombus
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To: raccoonradio

I wonder if Ted will have a nice Christmas with Lucifer.


16 posted on 12/23/2010 11:11:15 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: Baynative

He has a big war chest though. He may not need the help money-wise. In MA he is counting on independents for support. They helped elect him. However I will admit tea party support helped him get in there, and if that’s gone, he might lose.

Who are the tea partiers going to support in the final if it’s Brown against one of these candidates? I don’t visualize
any “Tea Partiers For Barney Frank” or “Tea Partiers For
Vicky Kennedy” websites going up...


17 posted on 12/23/2010 11:11:21 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: heiss

Ditto.


18 posted on 12/23/2010 11:12:15 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

Which “Tea Party” are you talking about?


19 posted on 12/23/2010 11:12:40 AM PST by rhombus
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To: acapesket

Brown sounded pretty smart on Howie’s show last night, talking about the START treaty etc. He said he reads and studies the bills, etc. He is a Massachusetts Republican which may mean RINO, but note the list Kathyf mentioned.
It’s better than nothing.


20 posted on 12/23/2010 11:14:05 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

I don’t know if Frank would run—he’s getting old, but that hasn’t stopped some candidates. Could he win? Yes, this is Massachusetts!

“So if the election were Brown against Frank, whom would you support?”

“I’d just stay home.”

“Then get ready to watch Senator Frank’s swearing in on TV.”


21 posted on 12/23/2010 11:16:23 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio
note: Brown was on Howie Carr’s show last night and defended himself, saying “do you want someone with you 80 per cent of the time or 0 per cent of the time?

Do you know what Howie and his listener's reaction was to Brown's DADT and START votes?

TIA.

22 posted on 12/23/2010 11:19:47 AM PST by longjack
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To: raccoonradio
I'd sooner elect Brian Posehn language warning
23 posted on 12/23/2010 11:21:43 AM PST by Dr.Deth
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To: raccoonradio
Brown is a good conservative

Sell it somewhere else. This creep has done tremendous harm to our national defense and military while handing Obama unnecessary victories in the lame duck session. All that is unforgivable.

Brown has proven he can't be trusted not to buckle on anything and will cast votes for political expediency. Expect that trend to continue the closer he gets to reelection.

24 posted on 12/23/2010 11:28:37 AM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: raccoonradio
It’s better than nothing.

That is the loser's mentality that prevents any real progress from occurring in the nation.

As long as RINOs hold seats there is no chance of a conservative winning the seat. And, Chris Christie in New Jersey has proven it is possible for conservatives to win seats in liberal states.

25 posted on 12/23/2010 11:31:46 AM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: proxy_user
Brown is significant because he caucuses with the Republicans. This could put Republican chairmen in all the committees

There are more than enough vulnerable Democrats in red states and states trending Republican that will be defeated to give Republicans control of the senate.

All the presence of RINOs do is force the Republican leadership to cave and pander to them.

26 posted on 12/23/2010 11:34:42 AM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Whom would you prefer?

Rich Tisei
Charlie Baker
Bill Hudak
Jeff Perry
Mary Connaughton
Jon Golnik

Those are some GOP candidates on the state level who might possibly run for Brown’s seat. (They have one thing in common, though; they all lost last month.) Anyone else?


27 posted on 12/23/2010 11:36:02 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

A Red Mass Group post about Who is MA Conservative/Republican of the year. Many votes for Brown, also Jeff Perry. One
post: “Are we talking ALL Republicans? Or just those that pass the purity test? Cause that will shrink the pool of eligible contenders, much the way it will continue to shrink the party registration. At this rate you can forget the big tent and use a pup tent.”

http://redmassgroup.com/diary/11007/open-thread

CFBlake writes: “If I was (sic: “were”) head of the State GOP I bet party membership would be up alot (sic). When Republicans act like liberals then the numbers go down. When Republicans CONSERVITIVES (sic)(Fiscal and Moral) are running the show membership will go up.”

Yes, we need more “conservititives” in this state...


28 posted on 12/23/2010 11:41:25 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

This is a conservative boob bait game. Here’s how it works.

Liberal Stuff that is going to pass no matter what.( about 75%) Vote against, no Washington pol will hold it against you, and you get 75% brownie points from conservative idiots right off the bat.

Vote for conservative stuff that is going to pass, and doesn’t need your vote one way or another. Get 5%. Now up to Olympia Brown’s vaunted 80%.

Vote lefty on the 20 percent of lefty stuff that could go either way, and then go back home and tell the bumpkins you’re a Conservative( See Specter, Bennett, Graham, McPain, Romney....et al.)


29 posted on 12/23/2010 11:46:40 AM PST by Leisler (They always lie, and have for so much and for so long, that they no longer know what about.)
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To: raccoonradio

Maybe conservatives could run their own candidate as a third party. It would divert enough votes away from Brown that the Dem would get in (assuming it were a close election). Won’t it be nice to have both Senators be Democrat again? It could be Vicky, carrying on her husband’s legacy. Capuano...
Frank...Pozen...maybe Marty Meehan, yeah get Marty to run.
Or Deval. Foolish to think we could get anyone who isn’t liberal in the Senate, just get a Dem back in...


30 posted on 12/23/2010 11:51:38 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

Though a Red Mass Group post about Brown and 2012 may give him hope; it starts by saying that Dems have to play serious defense in Senate Races (I think they have 23 up for grabs,
GOP only 10) and:
>>Over the next few weeks I’ll try to point out some other factors Scott Brown has on his side, but this is a major one that most haven’t picked up on yet. There is no Democrat who could run against Brown, who would be able to count on national money. It is simply not coming. Not only does it take off the table a possible asset of a would be opponent, it may also thwart a top tier candidate from even considering it. Brown already has a massive war chest and whoever the next opponent will be, they will have a lot of climbing to do. Everyone in the Massachusetts House delegation may think themselves a future Senator and they may also have fund-raised well in the past, but they’re about to find out that fund-raising in the minority party and as “Ranking Member” is a lot more difficult than when in the leading party and as “Chairman”. Naturally it goes without saying, that their Democratic colleagues in the Senate also won’t be so eager to help them when half will have their own hides to save.

>>With this in mind and a dozen other similar factors (that none of the pundits and “experts” are realising), Brown is in a good position for re-election. When the would be top-tier challengers run this math, they may decide to bow out, leaving Brown facing an underwhelming self-funder(and aren’t they all) in 2012. I couldn’t be happier that the Democrats are so overconfident already, and clearly Scott Brown remembers a time when they were before.


31 posted on 12/23/2010 11:58:14 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: Artemis Webb

Conservatives should quit wasting money on Republican candidates in Massachusetts. The state is a lost cause. Better to divert our money to candidates in close races in ‘purple’ states where your money could actually make a difference over the long term.


32 posted on 12/23/2010 12:01:14 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: raccoonradio

Brown is about 50/50 which is as good as you are going to get out of Mass. Most anyone else would be 10/90 at best.


33 posted on 12/23/2010 12:04:43 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Touch my tagline and I'll have you arrested)
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To: NeoCaveman

Yes, and I’m one of the better to have something rather than nothing folks. If someone more conservative in this state _can beat a Dem_, then great, nominate them. If you saw the election results of last month, you see what many voters can accomplish. “Yes We Can”—if you’re a Dem. Having at least a partial conservative in this state is already a miracle.


34 posted on 12/23/2010 12:19:51 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

Conservatives for red states, Conservatives for purple states, and whatever we can scratch out in blue states.


35 posted on 12/23/2010 12:24:24 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Touch my tagline and I'll have you arrested)
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To: raccoonradio

Makes no difference which Dem runs against him, Brown is finished. The seat will go back to the Dems, sure as the sunrise.

We elected Scott Brown hoping for a conservative, or at least a Republican.

Judging by his voting record, we got neither.

And in Massachusetts, it doesn’t matter which Dem runs against him. Not at all.


36 posted on 12/23/2010 12:30:51 PM PST by DNME (With the sound of distant drums ... something wicked this way comes.)
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To: Baynative

“Money might not the big issue, because Scott Brown isn’t going to see a stinking dime from Tea Party advocates this time around!”

Indeed. Personally, Brown has been about what I expected, and while I and many other good conservatives supported him the first time, I doubt he’ll receive our support again because he has now conclusively demonstrated he’s not actually all that conservative.

However, he’s also probably demonstrated he’s too conservative for Massachusetts, and by trying to appease everyone, he’s simply managed to piss off everyone instead. Without the massive national conservative support he had in terms of money and help, I’ll be surprised if Brown is re-elected.


37 posted on 12/23/2010 3:39:18 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from the right stuff!)
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To: DNME

I agree with that sentiment DNME. I would rather have a Dim wit and know what to expect than take it up the you know what by a spineless weasel RINO like Scott Brown.
This Lame Duck was it for me, that freaking food bill SB 510 sent me over the top.
I do not want to feed my family virus/bacteria engineered food grown by Monsanto seeds voted on by one Scott Brown.

George Soros is Monsanto’s big investor. This bill is dangerous to the health of all Americans.

Scottie Boy can “read” and “deliberate” all he wants.
I pray to God for my children’s sake that the New Congress de-funds this Frankenfood nightmare!!

If he read the whole bill he would “know” that the bill was written by Monsanto!

This is the takeover of the Food Industry.

As that POS Kissinger was wont to say..” He who controls the food...controls the people”.. Not an exact quote but darn close.


38 posted on 12/23/2010 4:21:03 PM PST by acapesket
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