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Compact fluorescent light bulb to blame for Hornell fire
The Hornell Evening Tribune ^ | December 23, 2010 | Andrew Poole

Posted on 12/23/2010 2:09:46 PM PST by NRG1973

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At least they saved a few watts before their house burned down.
1 posted on 12/23/2010 2:09:50 PM PST by NRG1973
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To: NRG1973

One less environment polluting structure on Mother Gaia.


2 posted on 12/23/2010 2:12:30 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: NRG1973

Ka-ching!


3 posted on 12/23/2010 2:13:23 PM PST by Christian Engineer Mass (Leftys who zone in on Palin miss the point. America's not about single figures. That's for NK/Cuba.)
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To: NRG1973

Yeah, but it generated a lot of heat - for a while. It also helped get rid of excess housing stock!


4 posted on 12/23/2010 2:13:27 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: NRG1973

I’ve had at least two sputter and spark before burning out LONG BEFORE the life stated on the package.


5 posted on 12/23/2010 2:13:56 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Liberalism is against human nature. Practicing liberalism is detrimental to your mental stability.)
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To: NRG1973

Congress mandates people buy light bulbs with mercury in them. Some intrepid Congressman better introduce an incontestable bill to freeze the salary of Congress near the poverty level.


6 posted on 12/23/2010 2:17:20 PM PST by wastedyears (It has nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with control.)
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To: NRG1973

We’d save ourselves a lot of pain and money if we didn’t have to use these things.


7 posted on 12/23/2010 2:18:51 PM PST by popdonnelly (Class warfare is Obama's thing.)
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To: NRG1973

Forget the fire, What about the MERCURY!!!
OMG!


8 posted on 12/23/2010 2:21:04 PM PST by mowowie
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To: The Antiyuppie

Speaking of heat, I have replaced hundreds of the factory, wrapped, safety style flourescent bulbs that have burned out and nearly caused fires. The ends got so hot that they were discolored and brittle from the heat. Also, they burned out some ballasts and tombstones(the holders at each end of the bulb.)


9 posted on 12/23/2010 2:21:40 PM PST by Parmy
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To: NRG1973

"Are you all really that stupid?"

10 posted on 12/23/2010 2:23:23 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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“A CFL on the ceiling burst, said Gerych, and gas inside the CFL bulb helped start the fire. He added exploding CFLs are rare.”

And how would he know that it’s “rare”?


11 posted on 12/23/2010 2:23:42 PM PST by Magic Fingers
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To: NRG1973

AND dumped super-toxic mercury into the air as the bulb exploded, starting the fire!


12 posted on 12/23/2010 2:24:33 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (Character is defined by how we treat those who society says have no value.)
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To: NRG1973

I am stocking up on regular old fashioned light bulbs.


13 posted on 12/23/2010 2:26:57 PM PST by mickie
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To: NRG1973

Stock up on the incandescent bulbs at the dollar store, 4 for a buck, while they are still available.


14 posted on 12/23/2010 2:27:01 PM PST by Kenny500c
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To: Kenny500c

Home Depot about a month ago had them sixteen for four dollars and change. I bought what I think I’ll need for the rest of my years.


15 posted on 12/23/2010 2:31:43 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Kenny500c

Can those be stored anywhere? (like an attic that gets really hot and really cold)


16 posted on 12/23/2010 2:32:17 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: mickie
These crazy new fangeled bulbs are made in China......and I read about an American company who made light bulbs for a century, a family business, that had to close their doors.
Putting more people out of work.
Does this make any sense?
17 posted on 12/23/2010 2:32:17 PM PST by mickie
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
Yeah, they don't quite live up to the stated lifetime. I seem to replace them more often than incandescents. Archaeologists in the future will define this insane age by the thin layer of mercury covering everything and inside everyone IMO.
18 posted on 12/23/2010 2:33:00 PM PST by allmost
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
The lifespan of a CFL bulbs largely depends on how often it's turned off and on. If you turn your lights out, on leaving the room (as we've all been told to do, countless times) — your CFL bulbs will burn out long before the numbers of hours use touted on the package.

I once combined a screw-in light sensor switch with a CFL bulb porch light. I had to replace the bulb in a couple of weeks. Then I noticed the problem. The sensor switch turned the CFL bulb on, when the sun was setting. Then the light from the bulb caused the sensor to turn the bulb off again. And so on — for about 20 minutes, until it got dark enough to end the cycle. The switching on and off reduced the life of the CFL bulb from an advertised 8,000 hours to about 150 hours.

19 posted on 12/23/2010 2:33:52 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: NRG1973

I’ve got CFL’s throughout my house, but I didn’t do it because it’s better for the environment (it’s not) or because Big Brother told me to. I did it to save money on my utility bill. Buy the right ones (I buy GE only) and they seem to last quite a long time, have a nice color and use a lot less electricity. I have never had one spark or blow up.

Whether you choose CFL’s or not should be up to you, not the government.


20 posted on 12/23/2010 2:35:43 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Merry CHRISTmas!)
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To: Diogenesis
Yes, they really are that stupid!

Let's get rid of good cheap light bulbs and replace them with toxic mercury-filled exploding bulbs to put in our landfills. I doubt if that many people are going to drive 40 miles to the nearest designated curly-cue deposit center and waste all that gasoline.

If they start up with the garbage nazis like they have in Britain, then I see a lot of these bulbs ending up in neighbor's garbage or on the side of the road where they can leak into the streams.

Every time an enviro-nut gets their way, the world becomes, poorer, less free, less safe, and sometimes MORE polluted.

21 posted on 12/23/2010 2:36:12 PM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Yes, but you may have to hide them from the “green police” when they come searching door-to-door.


22 posted on 12/23/2010 2:36:33 PM PST by Kenny500c
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

***I’ve had at least two sputter and spark before burning out LONG BEFORE the life stated on the package.***

Same here. They go flicker, flicker POP! One lasted about thirty days. They do NOT last near as long as advertized.


23 posted on 12/23/2010 2:36:39 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I visited GEN TOMMY FRANKS Military Museum in HOBART, OKLAHOMA! Well worth it!)
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To: NRG1973

I have used compact fluorescent light bulbs for years with no problem.


24 posted on 12/23/2010 2:37:03 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

I’ll bet an incandescent bulb never exploded and caused a fire. It may have been in contact with a flammable object, or may have been filled with gasoline, (remember in the prison movies?) but they never exploded on their own.


25 posted on 12/23/2010 2:38:08 PM PST by 9422WMR (Illegal is not a race)
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I don't know about that — but, don't expect me to come to the defense of CFL bulbs. There was no justification for governments banning incandescent bulbs.
26 posted on 12/23/2010 2:42:08 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: mickie
I am stocking up on regular old fashioned light bulbs.

I got mine. These CFL bulbs are a real joke. Some cannot be used in enclosed fixtures and I have a few that must match the decor. Some when turned on are dim and takes a while to get up to wattage. And while they do they are not the proper kelvin. And my biggest complaint is how to discard. Damn the rotten communists and environmentalist. Ruined America.

27 posted on 12/23/2010 2:45:11 PM PST by Logical me
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To: NRG1973
A CFL on the ceiling burst, said Gerych, and gas inside the CFL bulb helped start the fire.
Huh?
A fluorescent lamp tube is filled with a gas containing low pressure mercury vapor and argon, xenon, neon, or krypton.
Wikipedia article

Argon, xenon, neon, and krypton are all inert gases. They aren't flammable.

28 posted on 12/23/2010 2:56:35 PM PST by Bob
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To: wastedyears
Congress mandates people buy light bulbs with mercury in them.

Compact Fluorescent Recalls and Consumer Advisories

Compact Fluorescent "end of life" incident

Posts tagged 'globe cfl recall'

Compact Fluorescent Light Bulbs Dangerous?

29 posted on 12/23/2010 3:01:19 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: Diogenesis

Great picture and great caption!


30 posted on 12/23/2010 3:11:47 PM PST by The Cajun
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To: Bob

There have been problems with plastics in the cfl’s over heating/melting.


31 posted on 12/23/2010 3:15:22 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: 9422WMR
I’ll bet an incandescent bulb never exploded and caused a fire. It may have been in contact with a flammable object, or may have been filled with gasoline, (remember in the prison movies?) but they never exploded on their own.

They can explode pretty well when given a strong enough power surge, but even then they aren't apt to fail in such a way as to produce an ignition hazard that wouldn't be present from normal operation. In fairness to the CFL in this story, it's entirely possible that a power surge precipitated the ignition.

32 posted on 12/23/2010 3:17:59 PM PST by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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To: Bob

The bulbs are made in China, no telling what is REALLY in them.


33 posted on 12/23/2010 3:21:40 PM PST by packrat35 (I got your tag line..)
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To: Bob

That was one of my first thoughts as well. The investigator did not know what he was talking about because the gas is not flammable. The truth of the matter is that the power supply in the CFL bulbs can burn up and cause a fire. I have seen one that burned up. It is only lucky that it did not start a big fire. There are pictures on the internet of these things burning up. The old bulbs were much safer. There is no question about that.


34 posted on 12/23/2010 3:22:00 PM PST by Revel
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To: NRG1973

Made in China. May Repubs repeal, repeal. . .(not holding my breath, mind you. . .


35 posted on 12/23/2010 3:22:27 PM PST by cricket (Osama - NOT made in the USA. . .and Obama, not made in the USA either. . .)
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To: MamaDearest

Your first two links are 7 and 8 years old respectively. Certainly not current info.


36 posted on 12/23/2010 3:24:27 PM PST by George from New England (Escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: Kenny500c

We’re planning to trick the green fascists by using these in visible places (outside, patio, motion detector....).

We’ll have to keep our blinds shut since we’re at ground level on a busy street, and don’t want anyone reporting us -— that there’s a warm glow inside. Even though we mostly live near conservatives, there is a busy-body comrade or two.

We’ve got almost enough stockpiled to last the rest of our lives. At the rate it’s going though, who knows if we’ll be able to even afford the electricity.


37 posted on 12/23/2010 3:28:08 PM PST by Borax Queen
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To: NRG1973

Wow, a story out of Hornell makes news on FreeRepublic!


38 posted on 12/23/2010 3:29:13 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Bob

I was wondering how long before someone noticed that the bulbs are filled with inert gas.


39 posted on 12/23/2010 3:29:41 PM PST by Corelifter
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To: packrat35
The bulbs are made in China, no telling what is REALLY in them.

My recollection (admittedly, from many years ago) is that fluorescent tubes must be filled with an inert gas, along with the mercury vapor, in order to operate at all.

40 posted on 12/23/2010 3:30:45 PM PST by Bob
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To: reagan_fanatic

I like mine also...not adding heat in the hot southern summers is a biiiiiig plus. Save the cost of a quality bulb or two each hot month from not running the ac extra to counter it, and some of ours are up to several years and counting.


41 posted on 12/23/2010 3:34:41 PM PST by Fire_on_High (Stupid should hurt.)
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To: mickie

Me too! I hate the light produced by the CFL’s - it gives me a headache.


42 posted on 12/23/2010 3:35:23 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: NRG1973

Exploding CFL’s are NOT rare.

Have been reading about this problem on the internet for over 5 years.


43 posted on 12/23/2010 4:06:57 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: NRG1973

I wonder if an exploding bulb is as rare as the 10 deaths in 10 years of drop side cribs? I am willing to bet that it is a much higher incidence of this happening than 1 a year.


44 posted on 12/23/2010 4:15:38 PM PST by runninglips (Don't support the Republican party, work to "fundamentally change" it...conservative would be nice)
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To: NRG1973

What’s the carbon footprint of a house fire?


45 posted on 12/23/2010 4:19:14 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012: don't retreat, just reload)
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To: Borax Queen

Answer the knock on your door, your smart meter has issued a warrant


46 posted on 12/23/2010 4:23:59 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012: don't retreat, just reload)
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To: mickie

I found some Sylvania bulbs with a claimed life of 1500 hrs that are made in St. Marys, PA earlier this week in a local graocery store.


47 posted on 12/23/2010 4:29:56 PM PST by meatloaf
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
I’ve had at least two sputter and spark before burning out LONG BEFORE the life stated on the package.

I just retired one of the very first installed in this house, about a decade ago. (And the poorest light quality.) Ran 24/7 except during power outages.

Two others died in that decade -- don't know about the life because I haven't been recording "on" times. But I've replaced a LOT more incandescents in that same period.

Yes, one emitted a bit of smoke when it died (burning electronics does tend to stink -- I'll never forget when my TV caught fire). Don't usually leave them on when we're away, but I will take a much closer look at containing fixtures now.

48 posted on 12/23/2010 4:32:39 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Why are TSA exempt from their own searches?)
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To: NonValueAdded

uh oh....


49 posted on 12/23/2010 4:32:42 PM PST by Borax Queen
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To: reagan_fanatic
I did it to save money on my utility bill. Buy the right ones (I buy GE only) and they seem to last quite a long time, have a nice color and use a lot less electricity. I have never had one spark or blow up.

Color temperature is important, as my wife learned when we replaced the fluorescents in the kitchen. Last time she bought high color-temp ("bright white") and that created a less-than-ideal light -- a bit bluish. This time we bought low color-temp lamps and got MUCH better light.

Whether you choose CFL’s or not should be up to you, not the government.

Agreed 100%!

50 posted on 12/23/2010 4:39:36 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Why are TSA exempt from their own searches?)
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