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China bars English words in all publications
Antara ^ | December 23, 2010

Posted on 12/24/2010 5:55:44 AM PST by Pinkbell

BEIJING, Dec 23 (ANTARA) - Chinese newspapers, books and websites will no longer be allowed to use English words and phrases, the country`s publishing body has announced, saying the "purity" of the Chinese language is in peril.

The General Administration of Press and Publication, which announced the new rule on Monday, said the increasing use of English words and abbreviations in Chinese texts had caused confusion and was a means of "abusing the language".

Such practices "severely damaged the standard and purity of the Chinese language and disrupted the harmonious and healthy language and cultural environment, causing negative social impacts," the body said on its website.

"It is banned to mix at will foreign language phrases such as English words or abbreviations with Chinese publications, creating words of vague meaning that are not exactly Chinese or of any foreign language," it said.

GAPP said companies which violated the regulation would face "administrative punishment" without offering specifics.

English abbreviations such as NBA (National Basketball Association), GDP (gross domestic product), CPI (consumer price index) and WTO (World Trade Organization) are commonly used in Chinese publications.

The body left a small loophole, saying that "if necessary", English terms could be used but now must be followed by a direct translation of the abbreviation or an explanation in Chinese, according to the regulation.

The names of people or places in English also must be translated, the China Daily reported Wednesday.

One editor at a Beijing publishing house told the newspaper that the new GAPP regulation could actually result in reduced understanding.

"The intention of protecting the Chinese language is good. But in an age of globalisation, when some English acronyms like WTO have been widely accepted by readers, it might be too absolute to eliminate them," the editor said.

(Excerpt) Read more at thaivisa.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: borders; celebratediversity; china; chinabecomesfrance; communismkills; culture; culturewar; english; engrish; language; pekingparis; xenophobia
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1 posted on 12/24/2010 5:55:47 AM PST by Pinkbell
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To: Pinkbell
Following in the foot steps of the French....
Something basic must be going in the crapper in China.
2 posted on 12/24/2010 5:58:03 AM PST by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
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To: Pinkbell

The Chinese are turning French.


3 posted on 12/24/2010 5:58:46 AM PST by JPG (There is hope for America and her name is Sarah.)
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To: Pinkbell

That’s mighty French of them.


4 posted on 12/24/2010 5:59:48 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Merry Christmas!)
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To: Pinkbell

But what about diversity? Wah! Paging Tom Friedman...


5 posted on 12/24/2010 6:00:11 AM PST by rhombus
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To: Pinkbell
English—especially AMERICAN English is the Latin of the late 20th and 21st centuries—to ban it is to commit self-inflicted retardation.

Silly Chicoms.

6 posted on 12/24/2010 6:01:48 AM PST by Happy Rain ("Every Christmas the Leftist atheists become "hatetheists.")
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To: Pinkbell

Don’t worry. We’re banning English, too, and replacing it with babble...


7 posted on 12/24/2010 6:02:00 AM PST by LRS ("This is silly! It can't be! It can't be!!" "Oh yes it is! I said you wouldn't know the joint.")
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To: Pinkbell

You mean I gots to learn that stupid chicken scratching?


8 posted on 12/24/2010 6:02:07 AM PST by DeaconRed (The Old Man is Down The Road. . . . . . .)
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To: Pinkbell

Beats America where we can’t even get English declared the National language, and the first thing that you hear on the phone is press 1 for English.

China probably sees how we are spiraling down into the swamp of multicultural devolution.

Good for them. At least they are proud of their culture...


9 posted on 12/24/2010 6:03:01 AM PST by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Waverunner

>>Something basic must be going in the crapper in China.

Yeah...something basic like Chinese Culture. When you let foreigners push a foreign language into your own until your people use the new language without thinking, you have surrendered a part of your culture.

Good thing we don’t have any of that here!


10 posted on 12/24/2010 6:04:14 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Obama is like a rocket scientist....who's trying to do brain surgery with a hammer.)
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To: Pinkbell

“Purity of Essence”.... “Essence of Purity”... I keep remembering the phrase from Dr. Strangelove.


11 posted on 12/24/2010 6:04:18 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine (/s, in case you need to ask)
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To: Waverunner

I’m unaware of what the French did. Did they ban English in publications as well for the “purity” of the French langauge?


12 posted on 12/24/2010 6:04:30 AM PST by Pinkbell
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast; JPG; Waverunner

And just when French is about to be replaced by Arabic...


13 posted on 12/24/2010 6:06:41 AM PST by Savage Beast ("You can, in fact must, shout 'fire' in a crowded theatre. It just has to be the truth." J. Goldberg)
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To: Pinkbell

Good! Can we please go back to “Peking” and “Mao Tse Tung?”


14 posted on 12/24/2010 6:12:24 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: Pinkbell

English is on the march. I have attributed it to the fact that technology has been developed in English speaking countries. All computer terminology is in English. Four hundred years from now will it be Chinese?


15 posted on 12/24/2010 6:13:33 AM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: Waverunner

I wish America would do this with English. Heck we have Spanish everywhere. Good thing I can understand and speak it (not great) or I would have a heck of a time.


16 posted on 12/24/2010 6:14:50 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Pinkbell

Hop To Hop Sing


17 posted on 12/24/2010 6:15:17 AM PST by Battle Axe (Repent, for the coming of the Lord is neigh.)
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To: Bryanw92
Min, one of the more ancient Chinese language(groups) ~ kind of the lead language in the South for many centuries ~ has been taken abroad with the Chinese diaspora. It is found throughout Sumatra and across the Straits of Malacca in Malaysia. In some areas it is the dominant language.

Demonstrating the flexibility Chinese languages have in absorbing words from others, Min ~ with 8 tones ~ is estimated by authorities in the matter to have a vocabulary which is at least 30% Dutch in origin!

The folks who've been pushing Mandarin as a language for general use among the Chinese know what can happen ~ next thing you now it'd be just like Min!

Frankly, as Bill Gates has demonstrated with the icon set he's inserted into the world computing environment, Chinese, both written and spoken, can be subverted successfully with improved characters and words.

The Chinese are going to lose this one.

Notice that English accepted Bill's new characters without a whimper.

18 posted on 12/24/2010 6:15:27 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Pinkbell

Yeah. It was a few decades ago. Of course it’s difficult to ban the language of the folks who invented almost everything.


19 posted on 12/24/2010 6:18:15 AM PST by wolfpat (Veni. Vidi. Veneer: I came. I saw. I made plywood.)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine
BTW, all computer hard drive jargon is identical in English and Min.

It's interesting to listen to people speak both languages in those areas where both are taught and used. Malaysia is rapidly developing a tonal creole that could easily displace older forms of Min and make further pursuit of Mandarin meaningless.

20 posted on 12/24/2010 6:18:51 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: rhombus
But what about diversity?

Um, they know the truth.

All 1.6 billion of them. Who look like each other.

Oddly, doesn't seem to have handicapped them.

21 posted on 12/24/2010 6:22:05 AM PST by Regulator (Watch Out! Americans are on the March! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: Pinkbell

http://www.engrish.com/


22 posted on 12/24/2010 6:22:09 AM PST by ozark hilljilly (How dare you presume I want a Merry Christmas! ; ))
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To: LRS
We’re banning English, too, and replacing it with babble...

r .. nt




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23 posted on 12/24/2010 6:22:58 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: bill1952
and the first thing that you hear on the phone is press 1 for English.

You know...I think that's at the Urban Legend status.
I see it in print and hear it said as a joke...but I've never heard that when presented with a voice menu on the phone. It's always, "To continue in Spanish, press number one...Para continuar en Español, presione numero uno."

And I spend a lot of time on the phone for business.

24 posted on 12/24/2010 6:33:58 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Inspiration. The momentary cessation of stupidity.)
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To: TomGuy

r2 r2 r2


25 posted on 12/24/2010 6:33:58 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: bill1952

I’m with you on this. There are mixed feelings, but at least they are trying to preserve the purity of their written language. I just don’t like the authoritarian angle.

Don’t most of us wish our gov’t would do the same sort of thing and declare English our prime and only language? This creeping dual languages in everything is insidious and the only way I have of fighting back is being selective. When I see a label (package of food, for example) in English and one with both English and Spanish, there is no doubt which one I will choose.

I must say I’m biased as I’ve studied the Chinese language and it is fascinating.


26 posted on 12/24/2010 6:34:21 AM PST by Exit148 (Founder and active member of The Loose Change Club. An easy way to save for Freepathons!)
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To: Pinkbell
And Americans wonder why everything at Lowes is in English AND Spanish...

¿Cómo está ya'll?

27 posted on 12/24/2010 6:35:40 AM PST by moovova (Don't let Obama spoil the word "hope" for you...)
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To: Pinkbell

Well, we already do this for some things over here. How many ways has Qaddafi/Kadhafy been spelled because it would be perfectly ridiculous to put the Arabic text (which reads right to left) which is utterly unrecognizable by most English speakers in an English news stories.


28 posted on 12/24/2010 6:37:59 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Dr. Sivana

In the late 40s and early 50s, when Japan was being Americanized, the Japanese incorporated English words into their language but with a Japanese flair.
My favorite was a word used to describe a new speed control adopted on streetcars. It was called “futopedaru.”


29 posted on 12/24/2010 6:44:12 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Regulator

They’re just so awesome. (snicker)


30 posted on 12/24/2010 6:46:38 AM PST by rhombus
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To: Pinkbell

When something is written in Chinese, how can you tell if it is English?


31 posted on 12/24/2010 6:49:59 AM PST by stevem
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To: Pinkbell

In the 90’s the French didn’t like how english words were creeping ino taily use, words like mouse, re-boot ect.. so they forced everyone to use french words. Also french TV has mandated french content, to avoid american shows from taking over the airwaves.. If you’ve seen the shows on Telemundo with 50 yr old hosts treating women like crap... welcome to French TV prime time


32 posted on 12/24/2010 7:06:58 AM PST by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
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To: Battle Axe

“Hop Sing make-uh frap-jack for Hosssss”
~ Hop Sing


33 posted on 12/24/2010 7:10:41 AM PST by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Pinkbell

How about all the Chinese phrases making their way into the English language? Like ‘you need a face lift’ (chin tu fat in the original Chinese) and ‘cleaning an automobile’ (wa shing kah), etc. Hypocrites!


34 posted on 12/24/2010 7:12:41 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Waverunner

Didn’t work in France. The scientists, in particular, went nuts.


35 posted on 12/24/2010 7:16:10 AM PST by oldsicilian
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

> “futopedaru.”

My favorite is, “Meri Karisumasu”!
:)


36 posted on 12/24/2010 7:16:46 AM PST by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Peace On Earth


37 posted on 12/24/2010 7:28:37 AM PST by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: oldsicilian

> Didn’t work in France. The scientists, in particular, went nuts.

Heh.

The French actually tried to decree that all computer programs had to be written with a French-based computer language. I think they had a French-based flavor of Algol that they tried to foist on everybody.

Problem is that virtually *ALL* the computer chips used in PCs are designed in the U.S and use English-based assembly language. So the French would have had to devise their own assembly language, Assembler, Linker, and Loader, which, for every CPU chip I know about, are all in English.

Needless to say, the effort was DOA.

As a software engineer, I am not aware of any computer programming language, compiler, assembler, linker, or loader based in any language other than English. All commands for these utilities are in English or English-based mnemonics.


38 posted on 12/24/2010 7:30:10 AM PST by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: LibWhacker

Or the Chinese fast-food delivery service.

Ring Chow.


39 posted on 12/24/2010 7:30:24 AM PST by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: Pinkbell

China has already abused their language by using simplified characters.


40 posted on 12/24/2010 7:31:29 AM PST by Tai_Chung
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To: swain_forkbeard
Peace On Earth

Certainly more appropriate to the Season!

41 posted on 12/24/2010 7:37:50 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine (/s, in case you need to ask)
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To: Tai_Chung
Which system is more sensible:one that uses a couple dozen characters that may be arranged in hundreds of thousands of combinations to denote both old and new ideas OR a system whicj uses a special picture for each and every real object or idea?

And personally,I DESPISE icons taking the place of clearly worder labels! I find it much easier to learn a new word ,even if it is not my native language,than try to remember or decipher some strange pictograph.

42 posted on 12/24/2010 7:42:25 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: Pinkbell

I wish we had done that with spanish


43 posted on 12/24/2010 8:25:36 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: Pinkbell

The French Government established the “Academie Francaise” about two hundred and fifty years ago. They stocked it with the leading intellectuals of the day, including Voltaire, Montesqieu, and even a few Americans. Their mission was to protect the purity of the French language.

There’s nothing new in history. The French have been uppity for centuries.

/English is a living language, made up of German, Latin, French, and Greek elements. Anglophones, people that speak primarily English, make up more new words each year than all other language-speakers combined. There are economic reasons for “English First,” but no historical/cultural ones beyond fear of change.


44 posted on 12/24/2010 8:35:20 AM PST by warchild9
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To: Tai_Chung

“China has already abused their language by using simplified characters.”

I’d imagine they had to; how do you make a keyboard or typewriter with 2,000 characters?


45 posted on 12/24/2010 8:41:07 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: gusopol3

Good! Can we please go back to “Peking” and “Mao Tse Tung?”

Well, on Jan. 20, 2009, we took a “great leap” toward Maoism, at least!/sarcasm


46 posted on 12/24/2010 9:16:02 AM PST by Frank_2001
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To: Pinkbell

It’s about time the Chinese stopped kowtowing to the West, they should have been more gung ho about this years ago.


47 posted on 12/24/2010 9:20:25 AM PST by dfwgator (Welcome to the Gator Nation Will Muschamp)
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To: Exit148

There is a big difference between having an official language (nothing wrong with that) and declaring what phrases can be included in the the official language.

English is chock full of words and phrases from other languages. To try and prevent any more would be a futile task.


48 posted on 12/24/2010 9:45:09 AM PST by BigBobber
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Le Big Mac is already a fait accompli!


49 posted on 12/24/2010 9:57:52 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: Frank_2001

I can’t believe I missed the meaning of what I wrote that badly. Thanks for pointing it out.


50 posted on 12/24/2010 11:07:11 AM PST by gusopol3
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