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Biden sees 'inevitability' for gay marriage
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Posted on 12/24/2010 8:05:23 AM PST by Sub-Driver

Biden sees 'inevitability' for gay marriage By Russell Berman - 12/24/10 10:02 AM ET

Vice President Joseph Biden said in a television interview Friday that “there’s an inevitability for a national consensus on gay marriage.”

The vice president, who backs civil unions but not same-sex marriage, weighed in on the issue two days after President Obama acknowledged his position was “evolving.”

“I think the country's evolving,” Biden said in the interview with ABC News. His comments were not the first time he has suggested the country would eventually accept and support gay marriage. Asked in a 2007 appearance on NBC’s “Meet the Press” if gay marriage was inevitable, Biden replied that “it probably is.”

In the wide-ranging Christmas Eve interview on ABC, Biden also stood by his previous assertion that U.S. troops would leave Afghanistan by 2014 “come hell or high water.”

The White House had clarified that remark, but Biden said Friday he was “absolutely confident” that the U.S. combat mission would be complete in three years, comparing the process of gradually withdrawing troops from Afghanistan to the war in Iraq, where the military declared an end to combat operations earlier this year.

The vice president did say, however, that the U.S. might retain open bases in Bagram and Kandahar beyond 2014 as part of a “train-and-assist” mission.

“I think there's equally a prospect that they'll remain open as closed,” Biden said. “But we're not going to be there with 100-- my generic point was there're not going to be 140,000 ISAF forces, International Security Forces, in Afghanistan by the year 2014.”

On taxes, Biden reiterated the Obama administration’s call to end the Bush-era tax cuts for the wealthy after 2012, when they will expire after the extension the president negotiated in his compromise with Republicans. Yet Biden conceded that “nothing’s a guarantee.”

Biden also revealed the top of his Christmas gift list: He asked for a golf club - a two-wood, to be exact.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: commies; homosexualagenda; marriage
Waiting on the usual White House clarification from Mr. Gibbs...
1 posted on 12/24/2010 8:05:25 AM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Joe coming out of the closet?


2 posted on 12/24/2010 8:06:50 AM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: Sub-Driver

3 posted on 12/24/2010 8:11:54 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (If raising taxes on an activity reduces such an activity, let's tax liberalism to death.)
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

4 posted on 12/24/2010 8:12:20 AM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Sub-Driver

So, what Biden is telling us is that he and his friend Zero can make any laws they want, and we can pound sand. They have votes to hustle and too bad for the average American, because they know best.


5 posted on 12/24/2010 8:13:32 AM PST by mia
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To: Sub-Driver

There is a national consensus on gay marriage. Every time the issue is put to a vote, an overwhelming majority votes to ban it. The liberals just refuse to accept that.


6 posted on 12/24/2010 8:17:04 AM PST by Nick Danger (Pin the fail on the donkey)
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To: mia

If it does become law, we need to start movements to take away all tax benefits for marriage and treat everybody as a individual and make marriage only a religous ceremonial act... Couch it in deficit reduction and sowe can’t afford these giveaway to marriage people..


7 posted on 12/24/2010 8:18:10 AM PST by scbison
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To: Sub-Driver
Biden sees 'inevitability' for gay marriage

When he names the date I'll send a card but he better not expect a gift.

8 posted on 12/24/2010 8:18:58 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: Sub-Driver

Biden may, but , God doesn’t. It may not be popular to opine this, but, I would be concerned more about what pleases God than Biden or obama either. But then again, obama is not my missiah, he is not even my President.


9 posted on 12/24/2010 8:21:30 AM PST by sport
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To: scbison

It is not about the benefits- they want to force churches to do gay marriage ceremonies. The perverts and their communist allies intend to make American Christians accept their evil.


10 posted on 12/24/2010 8:23:52 AM PST by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: Sub-Driver

And another so-called Catholic checks-in.


11 posted on 12/24/2010 8:25:40 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Sub-Driver

Memo to Joe:

Once we change the legal definition of marriage, the door is opened to polygamy.

That will codify, into law, a MATH PROBLEM that results in the sexual abuse of young girls. Just like we see in 3rd world Muslim countries. And the abandonment, on the side of the road, of adolescent males.

I’m here in S. Utah, so I know of what I speak.


12 posted on 12/24/2010 8:25:50 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: scbison

“...tax benefits for marriage...”

I pay a penalty for being married.


13 posted on 12/24/2010 8:28:07 AM PST by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: VRW Conspirator

I hope these queers enjoy their queerdom while on earth, the Lake of Fire awaits them.


14 posted on 12/24/2010 8:28:36 AM PST by thethirddegree
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To: Sub-Driver

Is it likewise “inevitable” that Biden’s motoracde will continue to have accidents? /s =.=


15 posted on 12/24/2010 8:29:15 AM PST by cranked
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To: Sub-Driver

Joe, at the rate you guys are going Sodom & Gomorrah and it’s ultimate fate are “inevitable”.


16 posted on 12/24/2010 8:29:58 AM PST by G Larry (When you're right, avoid compromise!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Can anyone tell me for certain whether “marriage” is a religious institution or not? Because quite frankly, everything that a marriage gives to a heterosexual couple, a gay couple can get too by legal process. For instance, name changes, naming a heir, health beneficiaries and so on...


17 posted on 12/24/2010 8:30:17 AM PST by John123 (Requiem for Euroland...)
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To: VRW Conspirator

The first time gay military servicemen start doing as portrayed in your photo, all hell will break loose. =.=


18 posted on 12/24/2010 8:30:25 AM PST by cranked
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To: GenXteacher
It is not about the benefits- they want to force churches to do gay marriage ceremonies.

And simultaneously, silence any opposition. They want our sons and daughters taught sex education by a teacher wearing a moustache and a dress. That is were the militant gays want to go- toward recruitment.

19 posted on 12/24/2010 8:30:51 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (If raising taxes on an activity reduces such an activity, let's tax liberalism to death.)
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To: Nick Danger

That is true the Problem is they are afraid to put something like that on the Ballot Because it would Lose ,Just Like we all support abortion but you will never have a Chance to vote on that also ,you will be just told that you love it by your Betters the Elite Know it alls that have done such a Great job Of Stewardship of our Country in all Matters Great and Small.


20 posted on 12/24/2010 8:34:36 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: VRW Conspirator

“That is were the militant gays want to go- toward recruitment.”

What many people think of as “recruitment” really isn’t so much that they want more members in the movement; they literally just want a larger pool of sexual partners (and in their lunacy don’t see anything outside of that context).


21 posted on 12/24/2010 8:43:46 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: VRW Conspirator

woe to those that call evil good and good evil.


22 posted on 12/24/2010 8:45:58 AM PST by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: Sub-Driver

For ol’ Scranton Joe, and many on both sides of the issue, the state defines marriage.

Freegards


23 posted on 12/24/2010 8:46:39 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: Sub-Driver
This is the only inevitability that you need to worry about, Bite Me.

ineluctable

24 posted on 12/24/2010 9:02:14 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (DEFCON I ALERT: The federal cancer has metastasized. All personnel report to their battle stations.)
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To: thethirddegree

Fear not my friend. Marriage is the foundation of the nuclear family, which in turn is the foundation of the country. The demonic-rats will sacrifice the country for short term political gain (they know broken families overwhelmingly vote demonic-rat); but a broken family nation is no match for a paternalistic Islam. By the time the demonic-rats successfully destroy our society, the Muslims will take power and beat - torture - then stone to death all the immoral. The demonic-rats lust so much for power that they do not even see danger. They will be dragged to the gates of the city in shocked disbelief!


25 posted on 12/24/2010 9:10:09 AM PST by CoastWatcher
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To: Sub-Driver

We have to tolerant and inclusive. In the future all heterosexuals will have to submit to a night of gay sex to prove their loyalties to the ideals of tolerance and inclusiveness. The Democratic party will demand it. Joe Biden will demand it. Obama’s safe sex czar will demand it. If you don’t submit you will be fined and forced to buy an ornament of gay Jesus for the Christmas tree.


26 posted on 12/24/2010 9:25:14 AM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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To: Sub-Driver
Biden sees 'inevitability' for gay marriage

And Scripture sees the inevitability not long after of the catching up of the church, the tribulation on earth, and the return of Christ. Luke 17:28-30, 34-36.

We know its coming because the Bible tells us. We fight against it but we also know it will be a sign of the imminent return of Jesus coming for His own and the overthrow of the world's wicked and corrupt usurpation of God's glorious rulership.

27 posted on 12/24/2010 9:27:51 AM PST by Jim 0216
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To: Sub-Driver
The White House had clarified that remark, but Biden said Friday he was “absolutely confident” that the U.S. combat mission would be complete in three years,

Finally a slither of clarity from Biden. 3 years means Obama is out and Palin is in and yes I could see her bringing an end to this quickly.

28 posted on 12/24/2010 9:31:22 AM PST by PistolPaknMama
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To: sport

Popular Schmopular.
Gods in charge , is sovereign and eternal.
Biden will be in office no longer than 2 years.
As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.
And pray for Biden.
Because Jesus Said so.


29 posted on 12/24/2010 9:57:04 AM PST by humantech ("No one wants to live to see such evil times. Its what you do with the time you are given")
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To: Sub-Driver
Meanwhile, Nature reaffirms that two male penguins stlll can not lay an egg.
30 posted on 12/24/2010 9:59:40 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Sub-Driver
I guess this means Barry proposed to him, and he said yes, but they can't set a date until Sodomatrimony is legalized.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

31 posted on 12/24/2010 10:01:57 AM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: Sub-Driver

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2647248/posts?page=13#13


32 posted on 12/24/2010 11:04:44 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: sport

Tell that to the porn industry.


33 posted on 12/24/2010 11:39:09 AM PST by Soothesayer9
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To: John123
Can anyone tell me for certain whether “marriage” is a religious institution or not? Because quite frankly, everything that a marriage gives to a heterosexual couple, a gay couple can get too by legal process. For instance, name changes, naming a heir, health beneficiaries and so on...

In my opinion, the term "institution" simply implies that marriage is and has been recognized by society as valuable to society as as such institutionalized. Society did not create marriage it simply incorporated it as something recognized successful. In the moral free market, the marketplace of ideas, some ideas are rejected and some are accepted, some are but novelty or fad while some become institutions.

Institutions come not from think tanks, elite academics, or government mandates.

Government did not create marriage. Government simply carries out the wishes of society by recognizing and accomodating on society's behalf what society deemed valuable long before government was created by society.

As to religion, from my perspective, marriage entails a commitment before and between God, husband, and wife with religion simply God's representative much like government is simply society's representative.

With homosexual marriage we see government place itself over both God and society. Not good.

34 posted on 12/24/2010 11:42:32 AM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: arthurus

LOL!


35 posted on 12/24/2010 11:45:08 AM PST by Infidel Heather (In God I trust, not the Government.)
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To: Sub-Driver

He can accept it, but I won’t!

“As for me and my house we shall serve the Lord.”


36 posted on 12/24/2010 11:47:48 AM PST by Infidel Heather (In God I trust, not the Government.)
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To: Soothesayer9

They will find out for themselves soon enough.


37 posted on 12/24/2010 11:49:25 AM PST by sport
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To: Sub-Driver
Fornication is the diametric opposite of marriage. As Saint Paul observed, fornication tends toward death. That is not opinion, that is a natural law. Like gravity, it applies whether one believes it or not. Fornication destroys the person who practices it, and spreads its destruction to those close to the fornicator; the partners, the children, the parents and siblings, and to the rest of society. Fornicators not only live shorter lives (from violence, drug abuse, STD’s, suicide, other risk-taking behaviors such as drug abuse), but fortunately for the rest of us, they also have shorter careers, either because they get into legal troubles (such as embezzlement), or because their health or psychiatric problems force them out of their positions. Unfortunately for all of us, the social destruction of fornication can completely wipe out a nation.
38 posted on 12/24/2010 12:33:47 PM PST by Missouri gal
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To: VRW Conspirator

As sick as that picture is, it should be shown far and wide to middle America so they can
evoke an image of what is coming with the queer dictate.


39 posted on 12/24/2010 12:36:09 PM PST by soycd
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To: Sub-Driver
He said what????!!!!

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40 posted on 12/24/2010 12:49:56 PM PST by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: soycd
I was also thinking today about military chaplains and how DADT repeal could affect them. For example, the Catholic faith position on homosexuality will not change.

Will it be that Catholic Chaplains are not to be allowed to preach sermons that castigate and condemn the sins of sodomy, etc.?

41 posted on 12/24/2010 12:52:56 PM PST by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: Nick Danger
Oh thats no problem. Gay marriage is so obviously right and proper and moral, dont you know. The dim people just havent gotten round to seeing it yet. But that's ok, we just keep holding vote after vote, referendum after referendum, until we get the RIGHT result for us.

That's REAL democracy in action, you see?

42 posted on 12/24/2010 2:09:42 PM PST by Vanders9
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To: DBeers
With homosexual marriage we see government place itself over both God and society. Not good.

That is what I thought... but you put it to words. So thank you for that and have a great Christmas.

43 posted on 12/24/2010 2:33:28 PM PST by John123 (Requiem for Euroland...)
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To: Sub-Driver

We WON’T evolve towards the gay way, because they don’t reproduce! Evolution toward the gay way can only proceed via UNNATURAL causes.


44 posted on 12/24/2010 2:48:31 PM PST by 2harddrive
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To: sport

Obama is not even a fellow AMERICAN!


45 posted on 12/24/2010 2:50:29 PM PST by 2harddrive
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To: vox_freedom

The ability of chaplains to operate according to their faith, billeting issues, housing, the blood supply; there are a myriad of issues left unaddressed but my guess is they’ll all be resolved to the detriment of military readiness.


46 posted on 12/24/2010 4:14:52 PM PST by MSF BU (YR'S Please Support our troops: JOIN THEM!)
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To: VRW Conspirator

OMG! LOL


47 posted on 12/25/2010 6:48:58 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously..... You won't live through it anyway.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Let’s pass a law legitimizing marriage between a man and his flock of sheep. It’s inevitable anyway.


48 posted on 12/26/2010 11:01:53 AM PST by Inwoodian
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