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Home for Christmas: Father dramatically set free after shooting teenager in 'lynch mob' gang
Daily mail ^ | 24th December 2010 | DAVID GARDNER

Posted on 12/24/2010 8:08:49 AM PST by Charlespg

A black father has been sensationally pardoned for the racially charged murder of a white teenager he claimed was part of a ‘lynch mob’ that stormed his home.

John White, 57, was freed after serving just five months of a two-to-four-year prison sentence for the shooting.

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The man should have never been prosucuted in the first place

the prosecutor is a racist clown who should be sued for malicious prosecution

1 posted on 12/24/2010 8:08:56 AM PST by Charlespg
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To: Charlespg

In my part of the country if you go with a mob over to someone’s house looking for a fight you should expect to have a gun pointed at you, perhaps discharged in your direction.


2 posted on 12/24/2010 8:17:21 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: Charlespg

Reminds me of the Ossian Sweet case of nearly a century ago. Something similar also happened on Long Island a few years ago. The level of hate on the LI newsgroups at the time was disgusting.


3 posted on 12/24/2010 8:20:40 AM PST by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Charlespg

I’m ok with this.

But Paterson should also have freed Plaxico Burress who got 2 years in jail for shooting himself in the leg.

New York is a Liberal cesspool.


4 posted on 12/24/2010 8:24:29 AM PST by devere
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To: Charlespg
I guess the appellate court that upheld the prosecutor was racist, too.

Of course, all I know about this case is in this article.

5 posted on 12/24/2010 8:25:24 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Charlespg

Imagine that, white people accepting the release of a black man who killed whites...

I thought we were all racists?

Good on him for shooting that drunk POS before him and his friends did somethig stupid


6 posted on 12/24/2010 8:25:34 AM PST by Mr. K ('Profiling' you is worse than grabbing your balls)
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To: Clemenza

I now see that this was the White case I had alluded to. It’s amazing how “tribal” lower middle class whites on LI can get when one of THEIR own is taken out, in this case quite legitimately. NY and LI/NYC are police states when it comes to defending one’s property.


7 posted on 12/24/2010 8:31:36 AM PST by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Charlespg

Patterson is a racist, the murderer is a racist, and you are siding with them because they are black which makes you a racist and an idiot.


8 posted on 12/24/2010 8:34:27 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: Charlespg

Condeleeza Rice is a supporter of gun rights because of exactly this kind of issue.


9 posted on 12/24/2010 8:35:22 AM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: arthurus

If you don’t know the details on this case then perhaps you should learn them before commenting. If you do know the details and you still think that what this murderer did would be legal where you live then you are a moron.


10 posted on 12/24/2010 8:37:29 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: Clemenza

I think this might be the Long Island case to which you refer.


11 posted on 12/24/2010 8:39:06 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam

Not much for self protection are you. This man should never have been tried in the first place.


12 posted on 12/24/2010 8:41:22 AM PST by Ratman83
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To: rogue yam
There is apparently alot of assuming going on here - its impossible to determine guilt or innocence from this article.

Do you know the case details?

13 posted on 12/24/2010 8:41:30 AM PST by skeeter
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To: devere

You’re ok with a racist murderer serving just five months for unlawfully taking the life of an unarmed young man? I’m trying to think of a reason for you feeling this way that doesn’t involve stupidity, racism, and ignorance.


14 posted on 12/24/2010 8:42:15 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: Mr. K

Imagine people who think they are intelligent, free-thinking conservatives who have been conned by the leftists into accepting and excusing murder so long as the shooter is black and claims racism. Imagine these racist, suicidal idiots bathing in self-righteousness while the leftists cackle behind their backs.


15 posted on 12/24/2010 8:45:36 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: saganite
Condeleeza Rice is a supporter of gun rights because of exactly this kind of issue.

I think you misused the word "exactly" here.

16 posted on 12/24/2010 8:46:35 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: saganite

This kind of issue?

My son was threatened on Facebook with murder in very graphic details (as in, how they would do it and how they would dispose of the body). In addition, there were humiliating taunts. My son is in high school, but is shy and the “new kid in school.”

We went to the police who would do nothing. We went to the school and they said “Boys will be boys” and the father of the poster is a prominent attorney and “nice guy.”

Should I go the parents’ house to speak with them? Suppose he feels “threatened” and shoots me? My point is that the police and school will not respond to death threats and I will face criminal trespass charges if I confront the parents (or worse).

Of course, we will end up withdrawing our son and home schooling him. But our society has deteriorated to the point where teenagers can taunt, humiliate and try to drive a kid to suicide, yet the parents just have to stand and take it. In other words, the perps get away with it and my son has to quit school.

My wife wanted him to be home schooled anyway. But it was the school’s “Boys will be boys” that really pi$$ed me off.


17 posted on 12/24/2010 8:46:57 AM PST by Squidster
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To: Squidster

And no, he is not gay if that is what some of you are thinking.


18 posted on 12/24/2010 8:50:21 AM PST by Squidster
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To: Ratman83
Not much for self protection are you.

This wasn't self protection. It was murder. The shooter was a racist hot head who wanted to kill whitey and did. You defend him thinking this demonstrates your own moral worth. The truth is you have been duped into this attitude by evil leftists who are running circles around you and laughing at you behind you back.

19 posted on 12/24/2010 8:50:51 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: skeeter
There is apparently alot of assuming going on here - its impossible to determine guilt or innocence from this article.

Do you know the case details?

I do know the details but this thread is more interesting without them in that it shows how readily self-styled "conservatives" hasten to burnish their "non-racist" credentials at the expense of rationality, truth, and morality.

20 posted on 12/24/2010 8:53:40 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam

Imagine how this story would be playing out, both in the media and on FR if a white, outgoing governor pardoned a white man that had shot a black teen under the same circumstances or any circumstance.


21 posted on 12/24/2010 8:54:33 AM PST by digger48
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To: rogue yam

You are clueless. A mob was going to injure or kill his son. The came to his home with intent to attack his son he defended him self and his family, he did the right thing. I you cannot see this as the right tihing then I hope a mob visits your home.


22 posted on 12/24/2010 8:54:39 AM PST by Ratman83
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To: rogue yam
Mob trespass in the nighttime, and a D&D member charging to within three inches of the armed resident defender. That is deadly threat range.

Here in Texas, the only question would be what garbage service to call to haul off the carcass...

23 posted on 12/24/2010 8:55:35 AM PST by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! REPEAT San Jacinto!!!)
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To: rogue yam

Read all your posts - you should stop posting after that 8th cup of coffee. this a.m.


24 posted on 12/24/2010 8:56:08 AM PST by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: rogue yam
I do know the details but this thread is more interesting without them in that it shows how readily self-styled "conservatives" hasten to burnish their "non-racist" credentials at the expense of rationality, truth, and morality.

Well perhaps they'll respond to your charge. I'd like to know the truth of the matter.

25 posted on 12/24/2010 8:57:48 AM PST by skeeter
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To: rogue yam
and i smell a troll

I remember this this case,a racist mob chased this mans son to his house and tried to storm it after he was falsely accused of harassing a white girl at a party.

IMHO the man should have used a 12ga shotgun not a pistol

you are siding with them because they are black which makes you a racist and an idiot.

no I'm siding with them becase people of any race have the right to defend themselves from violent bigoted mobs

the racist here is you

26 posted on 12/24/2010 8:58:59 AM PST by Charlespg
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To: rogue yam

There is way more to this story than this article would have a reader believe.

That kid got shot for nothing. This guy ran out into his driveway with full intent to shoot somebody.

The prosecutor didn’t go after this case for NO reason. Mr. White had no reason to perceive any threat from those kids whatsoever. In the part of America where I live, you don’t just get to shoot and kill someone who’s coming to your house to talk. These kids were not even on White’s property as I recall.

So John White got a free murder. All because the girl who accused his son of threatening rape either lied about it to begin with or lied after when she recanted. But hey, SHE’S still alive.

The kid who got killed, well he was inebriated over the legal limit and it would seem that the bunch who were supposedly coming after White’s son maybe had a bit too much courage from liquid spirits.

These sorts of things happen all the time. More NORMAL folks don’t go brandishing guns and shooting people. One could make an argument that Mr. White perhaps a perfect right to carry his gun to confront the group coming after his son, but the young man he shot was UNARMED, on a public street, and not a danger to anyone.

Merry Christmas to John White.


27 posted on 12/24/2010 8:59:01 AM PST by Fishtalk (Dance like nobody's watching; Sing like nobody's listening; Blog like nobody's reading.)
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To: Squidster
And no, he is not gay if that is what some of you are thinking.

For some of us, it never even crossed our minds. What you are descrbing happening to your son seems way too common. I wish you all well.

28 posted on 12/24/2010 9:00:01 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: rogue yam

“You’re ok with a racist murderer serving just five months for unlawfully taking the life of an unarmed young man? I’m trying to think of a reason for you feeling this way that doesn’t involve stupidity, racism, and ignorance.”

Have I somehow wandered onto a sardonic humor site? Is this possibly the Free Onion?

If people get drunk, join a mob, and go to a neighbor’s home to threaten the safety of the occupants, it is implied in all 50 states that they may suffer a tragic accident. In this case the jury called it manslaughter, not murder (you evidently don’t much care for facts). I’m not sure I would have agreed to convict for anything, but then I wasn’t in the courtroom to hear all the testimony. Perhaps the jury and Governor both got it right.

Tis the season to be jolly, Fa la la la la, la la la la!


29 posted on 12/24/2010 9:05:21 AM PST by devere
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...a racist mob chased this mans son to his house and tried to storm it...

You are a liar and an idiot and a tool of the leftists. Nobody tried to storm Mr. White's house and everyone posting to this thread knows this including you.

30 posted on 12/24/2010 9:06:22 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: skeeter
I guess the appellate court that upheld the prosecutor was racist, too.

That does not necessarly mean anything. Appellate courts do not review the facts of a case. They only review if the case was tried correctly and according to the law.

31 posted on 12/24/2010 9:08:30 AM PST by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: Ditto

How can they possible judge the correctness of the prosecution without knowing the facts of the case?


32 posted on 12/24/2010 9:09:37 AM PST by skeeter
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To: devere
...it is implied in all 50 states that they may suffer a tragic accident. ...

Post something that is not goofy, retarded garbage and I might respond to it.

33 posted on 12/24/2010 9:11:39 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: Ditto

Are you implying that if, as the original poster asserted, the prosecutor tried the case improperly (as I assume a racist seeking to put away an innocent black man would have to) the appellate court wouldn’t be able to discern that?


34 posted on 12/24/2010 9:12:20 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Squidster
And no, he is not gay if that is what some of you are thinking.

Never entered my mind.

It seems your mistake was entering him into that school in the first place. You are changing that situation and more power to you.

35 posted on 12/24/2010 9:14:25 AM PST by Graybeard58
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To: rogue yam
and your a disrupter

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2007/12/22/2007-12-22_guilty_verdict_for_black_dad_in_shooting.html

White testified during the trial that he was trying to protect his family when he brandished a gun last year after a group of angry white teenagers showed up at his doorstep late at night to confront his then-19-year-old son, Aaron.

nope can't have darky defending his home and family from racist mobs now can we ?

go back to storm front

36 posted on 12/24/2010 9:14:40 AM PST by Charlespg
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To: rogue yam
From the article: "The victim and four friends approached Mr White's home to confront his teenage son, Aaron, believing he had threatened a friend with rape in an Internet chat room. The girl later recanted the claim."

I would lean toward a sympathetic response to just about anything a man did on his property that could be interpreted as protecting himself or his family against a superior number of drunk, angry, and rowdy teenagers. The details matter, but they had no business on his property and such a situation could easily cross the line beyond which armed self-defense was a reasonable response.

Continuing the article: "Mr Spota said a court, upheld by an appellate court, agreed that a reasonable person wouldn't have believed deadly force was needed that hot summer night."

My question is whether a reasonable person could have reached that decision while outnumbered by a bunch of angry drunks in the available time and with mere inches separating him from the nearest belligerent. I don't know the answer to that question, and I would have to read the trial testimony in detail before I was happy with either answer. Again, however, I have significant sympathy for the homeowner confronting multiple drunken intruders on his property.

37 posted on 12/24/2010 9:15:58 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Ditto
That does not necessarly mean anything. Appellate courts do not review the facts of a case. They only review if the case was tried correctly and according to the law.

My understanding is that appellate courts do not review whether findings of fact by the lower court are true, but do rule whether certain evidence was properly admitted or improperly excluded. If Mr. White's prosecution was tainted by racism then this mishandling of his trial would certainly be subject to appellate review. That is one of the reasons that courts of appeal exist.

I think it is transparently false to claim that Mr. White's prosecution was racist. He walked out of his house and shot an unarmed young man in the face at point blank range. Why wouldn't he get prosecuted for this?

38 posted on 12/24/2010 9:19:26 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam

“...it is implied in all 50 states that they may suffer a tragic accident. ...

“Post something that is not goofy, retarded garbage and I might respond to it.”

You just responded! LOL

Technical tip: if you want to not respond, you have to avoid hitting the “Post” button.


39 posted on 12/24/2010 9:21:42 AM PST by devere
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To: Charlespg

You post idiotic garbage because the leftists have duped you into thinking that doing so makes you some sort of moral exemplar. It is because of “conservatives” like you that our society is crumbling.


40 posted on 12/24/2010 9:23:10 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: Pollster1

You keep saying “on his property”. Where do you get this?

Also, you speak of Mr. White being within inches of the belligerents. How do you suppose this came to pass?


41 posted on 12/24/2010 9:26:27 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: devere

Are you 12?


42 posted on 12/24/2010 9:27:07 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: skeeter
How can they possible judge the correctness of the prosecution without knowing the facts of the case?

Because that's the way it works.

An appellate court either State or Federal will look at any 'new" evidence that could possibly emerge if it has the potential to change the outcome. They would then overturn that conviction and order a new trial. But that is very rare.

Outside of that, they will only overturn a conviction and send it back to a trial court if it can be demonstrated that either the judge, jury or prosecutor did not do their jobs correctly and according to the rules.

They don't judge innocence or guilt. They only review the process used to reach that verdict. See this from the ABA. http://www.abanet.org/publiced/courts/appeals.html

43 posted on 12/24/2010 9:28:56 AM PST by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: rogue yam

Some drunken white trash meat head was charging onto his property. Mr White was justified, peru understanding of the case, and the little gabbaghoul should have thought twice. But then again, this is Lawn Guyland, Aja LIdiot land where the cops are “always right” and drunken coogine thugs are always “nice little boys.”


44 posted on 12/24/2010 9:30:38 AM PST by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: rogue yam

IBTZ

enjoy your stay on freerepublic


45 posted on 12/24/2010 9:34:10 AM PST by Charlespg
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To: rogue yam
Ah, showing the old school outer borough/Lawn Guyland tribalism here. Not happy that a black "interloper" shot a drunken Vinny are you?

I may not care for the racial rhetoric on both sides of this case, but Mr. White was justified despite what all the whimsy Vinnys and Paddies in LIdiot land may think.

46 posted on 12/24/2010 9:34:37 AM PST by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: rogue yam

But it seems this guy was pardoned by the governor. He didn’t win any court appeals.


47 posted on 12/24/2010 9:35:17 AM PST by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: Pollster1
My question is whether a reasonable person could have reached that decision while outnumbered by a bunch of angry drunks in the available time and with mere inches separating him from the nearest belligerent.

I think a reasonable person would have first dialed 911 asking for help. Arming oneself to confront a mob shows me an intent to reach a violent conclusion.

48 posted on 12/24/2010 9:36:00 AM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: rogue yam

“Are you 12?

That would be great!

“Youth is wasted on the young.”
George Bernard Shaw


49 posted on 12/24/2010 9:37:27 AM PST by devere
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To: devere
I don't know anything about this case and don't really care. But I seriously doubt that any of the fifty states offer implied permission to shoot someone who is standing outside your house, whether he is alone or with others, shouting threats, racial slurs, or anything else.

If what you say were true then there would be a few dead SEIU thugs from last year's hate demonstrations outside bankers' homes.

50 posted on 12/24/2010 9:37:56 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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