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Feds asked to ensure Catholic hospitals follow law (by providing abortions)
Seattle Times ^ | 12/22/10 | Rob Stein

Posted on 12/26/2010 7:58:37 PM PST by Libloather

Feds asked to ensure Catholic hospitals follow law
The American Civil Liberties Union on Wednesday asked federal health officials to ensure that Catholic hospitals provide emergency reproductive care to pregnant women.
By Rob Stein
The Washington Post
Originally published Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 10:00 PM

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) on Wednesday asked federal health officials to ensure that Catholic hospitals provide emergency reproductive care to pregnant women, saying the refusal by religiously affiliated hospitals to provide abortion and other services is an increasing problem.

In a letter to the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), the ACLU cited the case of St. Joseph's Hospital and Medical Center in Phoenix, which was stripped of its Catholic status Tuesday because doctors performed an abortion on a woman with a life-threatening complication.

"We continue to applaud St. Joseph's for doing what is right by standing up for women's health and complying with federal law," five ACLU attorneys wrote in a letter to Donald Berwick, the CMS administrator, and his deputy. "But this confrontation never should have happened in the first place, because no hospital — religious or otherwise — should be prohibited from saving women's lives and from following federal law."

The letter was a follow-up to a complaint the ACLU sent in July asking for investigation of similar issues at Catholic hospitals across the country, including refusals to provide emergency contraception to rape victims or perform abortions on women having miscarriages.

"The dioceses cannot be permitted to dictate who lives and who dies in Catholic-owned hospitals," the letter states.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2evil4words; abortion; aclu; babykillers; catholic; catholichospitals; conscienceclause; evil; hospitals; law; murderers; tyranny
Would it then be too much to ask the president to follow the law and provide a birth certificate?
1 posted on 12/26/2010 7:58:48 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

This ACLU is getting to be an increasing pain in the a$$.


2 posted on 12/26/2010 8:01:18 PM PST by eeriegeno (<p>)
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To: Libloather

The Federal Government is the modern-day Tower of Babel.


3 posted on 12/26/2010 8:04:16 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Libloather

How about if we Catholics pick up our assorted “implements of revol—er, restitution,” and abort the federal government? THAT would truly be an act of “reproductive care” ... we would then have saved America for future generations.


4 posted on 12/26/2010 8:08:57 PM PST by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !When a majority of the American)
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To: Libloather

Don’t just remove the Catholic name, close them down entirely. Catholic hospitals are 1/4 of our health care system. If they want to play hardball, go Galt on them.


5 posted on 12/26/2010 8:12:38 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Libloather

The ACLU is evil.


6 posted on 12/26/2010 8:15:35 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Libloather

It’s starting.


7 posted on 12/26/2010 8:22:19 PM PST by steve86
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To: Libloather

This of course great news for all socialist Catholics who voted for our socialist-in-chief. They should all be so proud with this news that now Catholic hospitals will be forced to murder the unborn.

It’s sad but so very true, we deserve the evil that is upopn us because we do nothing.


8 posted on 12/26/2010 8:28:21 PM PST by stockpirate (Sen. Mitch McConnel (R) has betrayed the Nov. 2, 2010 voters w/his tax bill!)
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To: Libloather

The ACLU is all about government force. Remember when they portrayed themselves as some kind of libertarian group?


9 posted on 12/26/2010 8:30:02 PM PST by GeronL (#7 top poster at CC, friend to all, nicest guy ever, +96/-14, ignored by 1 sockpuppet.. oh & BANNED)
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To: eeriegeno
Hmm, the ACLU reviews it's bigoted anti-Catholic side ~ again and again and again and again.

It is so tiresome.

They also hate babies. Every ACLU member is a threat to every child in the womb. Somehow we have to figure out how to get a permanent restraining order on them so they cannot come within 1/4 mile of a pregnant woman without being subject to sanction.

10 posted on 12/26/2010 8:33:54 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Southack

ACLU = Anti Christian Lawyers Union


11 posted on 12/26/2010 8:37:01 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: Libloather
The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) on Wednesday asked federal health officials to ensure that Catholic hospitals provide emergency reproductive care to pregnant women, saying the refusal by religiously affiliated hospitals to provide abortion and other services is an increasing problem.

That statement is a complete oxymoron!

12 posted on 12/26/2010 8:48:56 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward with Confidence!)
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To: Libloather

Can’t blame the Catholics if they choose to get out of the hospital biz altogether in the USA. This is vintage Obummer goonery.


13 posted on 12/26/2010 8:49:28 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Libloather

Up yours ACLU. It is not a liberty to butcher nascent human life.


14 posted on 12/26/2010 8:52:19 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

>> Can’t blame the Catholics if they choose to get out of the hospital biz altogether in the USA.

This needs to be fought legitimately with the aid of every Pro-Life citizen in the Country.


15 posted on 12/26/2010 8:55:23 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Libloather

Yeah, only moms who don’t want their kids can decide when it’s their time to die.

If the ACLU didn’t have its own head so far up its own ass, they would see the humungous hypocrisy in their own statements. Maybe even if they viewed their statements as coming from a conservative group, they’d rip their own statements to shreds.


16 posted on 12/26/2010 9:10:52 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Libloather

Phoenix hospital that performed abortion no longer Catholic
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2646292/posts


17 posted on 12/26/2010 9:36:06 PM PST by donna (Imagine...women who honor men enough not to tempt them.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I believe the names and addresses of the evil ACLU heirarchy and minions can be easily had. Anyone here who believes “something ought to really be done” about this anti-American organization with Marxist beginnings can quit bravely posting about it here and spend their time more productively in tangible solutions. Posting here accomplishes nothing.

As for the Catholic Church, they should sell every one of their hospitals if the ACLU pulls this off. My wife, a devout Catholic ER nurse at a Catholic hospital, would never betray her conscience for a pay check. She will quit the profession before acquiescing to Federally-ordered sin, and I think many others would as well.


18 posted on 12/26/2010 9:42:17 PM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Libloather

Feds asked to ensure Catholic hospitals follow law by providing abortions on mothers of all future ACLU lawyers


19 posted on 12/26/2010 10:12:44 PM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Can’t blame the Catholics if they choose to get out of the hospital biz altogether in the USA. This is vintage Obummer goonery.

The ACLU is using the government to impose a religious belief on Catholics. Atheism is a religious belief. Atheists can find no stronger argument for the non existence of God than Catholics and find an argument for his existence. In short believing in no God is a belief about religion. The government is violating the First Amendment by making laws based on ACLU beliefs on how Catholics are to run hospitals. It's clear the ACLU is against the First Amendment.

20 posted on 12/26/2010 10:16:26 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Libloather

Catholics need to shut down every hospital, parochial school, adoption service, and charity and dump it on the federal government.

Then, at 24-30% of the population, they need to declare themselves a minority and start demanding everything they can from the government - jobs, promotions, affirmative action, school admissions, tax exemptions, reparations for all the bigotry and discrimination of the past by the Klan, the Know Nothings, etc. etc.


21 posted on 12/26/2010 10:18:42 PM PST by oldbill
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To: Libloather

What does abortion have to do with health care?

Since when is it federal law to force medical personnel to commit or assist in committing an abortion?

It’s always been a leftist pipe-dream to force medical personnel with consciences to commit abortion. But, so far, it is not law.


22 posted on 12/26/2010 10:36:49 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: 353FMG

Anti-Christian Litigants’ Union


23 posted on 12/26/2010 10:56:30 PM PST by Elsiejay (.)
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To: stockpirate

That would be well over 50%


24 posted on 12/26/2010 11:54:28 PM PST by packrat35 (America is rapidly becoming a police state that East Germany could be proud of!)
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To: Vince Ferrer
...go Galt on them.

Like a character in an atheist novel?

25 posted on 12/27/2010 5:42:49 AM PST by Salman
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To: Libloather

The idea here is to force Catholics to choose between following their religion or keeping their job. Many will choose their job. This is the liberals’ goal.


26 posted on 12/27/2010 7:09:48 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Liberalism is against human nature. Practicing liberalism is detrimental to your mental stability.)
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27 posted on 12/27/2010 7:11:26 AM PST by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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28 posted on 12/27/2010 7:21:01 AM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: Libloather

Then they will be going after the Methodist hospitals too.


29 posted on 12/27/2010 7:45:29 AM PST by GailA (NO JESUS, NO CHRISTmas!)
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To: Vince Ferrer

“Don’t just remove the Catholic name, close them down entirely. Catholic hospitals are 1/4 of our health care system. If they want to play hardball, go Galt on them.”

If these illogical ‘thinkers’ get their way, there will be no more CATHOLIC hospitals and then the government will have to financially support what remains....completely.

“How come those who hate humanity for its faults are called “humanists” but those who love humanity for its virtues are called “hate-mongers”?” ...Oleg Atbashian


30 posted on 12/27/2010 7:54:35 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Gene Eric

Closing Catholic hospitals would cause a “crisis” and the Feds will take them over like they were GM. Which was the plan all along.


31 posted on 12/27/2010 7:57:32 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: steve86

Exactly!


32 posted on 12/27/2010 8:15:49 AM PST by georgia peach (georgia peach)
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To: Libloather
Lay-down-with-dogs-alert.

We're headed for a showdown....

33 posted on 12/27/2010 8:46:52 AM PST by the invisib1e hand ("Three hostile newspapers are more to be feared than 200 swords" - Napoleon Bonapart)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Notice that the left, at urging of their ideological “father” to be sure,

has picked a couple of issues where the accepted norm to be enforced by the state is in direct conflict with Christian teaching - abortion and homosexuality.

The objective is to criminalize Christian beliefs and persecute Christians to the point where there is no Christian influence in society.

Come Lord Jesus.


34 posted on 12/27/2010 8:49:15 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: MrB

Im a Catholic. As far as Im concerned, much of what the Church is reaping in America, it sowed itself. Think “Kennedy Catholic.”. Or Pelosi. Or Biden. Or sebelius. Or napolitano. Just the few that come to mind with little effort.


35 posted on 12/27/2010 9:05:42 AM PST by the invisib1e hand ("Three hostile newspapers are more to be feared than 200 swords" - Napoleon Bonapart)
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To: MrB

In fact, most of what the Church is reaping in America is being done ti by Catholics. Can’t be whining about persecution yet.


36 posted on 12/27/2010 9:10:23 AM PST by the invisib1e hand ("Three hostile newspapers are more to be feared than 200 swords" - Napoleon Bonapart)
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To: the invisib1e hand

No use “whining” about it, because we’ve been warned that it’s coming.

I was just stating that that is the objective of these issues.


37 posted on 12/27/2010 9:25:42 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Libloather
Hey St.(Some Catholic Hospital), just keep on supporting those nanny, socialist, big government policies until they kill ya....
38 posted on 12/27/2010 9:30:44 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: Libloather
"...In a letter to the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), the ACLU cited the case of St. Joseph's Hospital and Medical Center in Phoenix..."

Would Catholic Hospitals be exempt from Federal intervention is they did not accept Medicare/Medicaid patients?

39 posted on 12/27/2010 9:49:49 AM PST by verity
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To: Southack

The people who give money to ACLU are evil.

Some of their money comes from the courts when they win a case or get reimbursed for their costs.

They will someday be held accountable.


40 posted on 12/27/2010 9:55:46 AM PST by ADSUM (Democracy works when citizens get involved and keep government honest.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Can’t be whining about persecution yet.

It's persecution whether it comes from hypocrites who claim to be of the household of faith, or from infidels with more integrity.

41 posted on 12/27/2010 10:12:35 AM PST by Campion
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To: Libloather
Hmmm...so much for reproductive "choice."

Let's see, it's allegedly none of my business when a pregnant woman wants to kill her unborn child. But if I were an OB/GYN or male nurse at a hospital, I could be forced to participate in this sordid "business."

As it is, the jackwagons at the ACLU want to have my tax money go to support abortions.

42 posted on 12/27/2010 11:57:19 AM PST by Lysandru
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To: MrB
"We've" been warned that we would reap what we sow. That's not persecution. Its mere justice. It is not heroic for a generation to accept the consequences of that generation's actions.

This generation made its deal with the devil. This generation gave Death Panels to itself.

Persecution, indeed.

43 posted on 12/27/2010 12:05:54 PM PST by the invisib1e hand ("Three hostile newspapers are more to be feared than 200 swords" - Napoleon Bonapart)
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