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Don't spin the Civil War
Washington Post ^ | 12.27.10 | E.J. DIONNE jR.

Posted on 12/27/2010 10:31:54 AM PST by trumandogz

The Civil War is about to loom very large in the popular memory. We would do well to be candid about its causes and not allow the distortions of contemporary politics or long-standing myths to cloud our understanding of why the nation fell apart.

The coming year will mark the 150th anniversary of the onset of the conflict, which is usually dated to April 12, 1861, when Confederate batteries opened fire at 4:30 a.m. on federal troops occupying Fort Sumter. Union forces surrendered the next day, after 34 hours of shelling.

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1 posted on 12/27/2010 10:31:55 AM PST by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

Oh man, not thios shit again.


2 posted on 12/27/2010 10:33:19 AM PST by Americanexpat (Everytime I see that guy's face ot)
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Nothing to worry about here. s/ Our kids today don’t know anything about the Civil War, where it happened or why. That’s one reason the south should fly the Rebel Battle Flag..........if nothing else, the kids may ask what it’s for.


3 posted on 12/27/2010 10:36:30 AM PST by RC2
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To: trumandogz

IBTTGTTSBR. (In Before This Thread Goes To The Smokey Back Room)


4 posted on 12/27/2010 10:36:50 AM PST by PalmettoMason (It's easy being a menace to society when WAY OVER half the population is happy being sheep.)
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To: trumandogz

bump,,,later


5 posted on 12/27/2010 10:37:59 AM PST by piroque (it is better to perish than to live as slaves.)
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To: trumandogz

More yankee revisionist history. :)


6 posted on 12/27/2010 10:38:53 AM PST by Sporke (USS-Iowa BB-61)
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To: trumandogz

http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2010/12/confederate_president_jefferso.html


7 posted on 12/27/2010 10:40:03 AM PST by piroque (it is better to perish than to live as slaves.)
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They should teach it accurately. The anti-slave faction was the Republicans. The pro-slave faction -- whether it be northern copperheads or southern successionists -- were Democrats.

Regarding the role of religion in the conflict they should learn the words to both Dixie and the Battle Hymn of the Republic then compare them.

8 posted on 12/27/2010 10:40:45 AM PST by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: trumandogz
Historian EJ Dionne Jr has spoken.

The "progressives" are mandating everything else, why not a state approved official version of history, too?

Fits right in with this crowd.

9 posted on 12/27/2010 10:40:47 AM PST by skeeter
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To: trumandogz
You mean the war of northern aggression will be spun again.
10 posted on 12/27/2010 10:45:27 AM PST by org.whodat
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The memo is out. Chrissy Matthews was spewing this last week. I guess it's the talking points for the holidays. My guess is: next will be Gerson.
11 posted on 12/27/2010 10:45:48 AM PST by Forgotten Amendments (I'd rather be Plaxico Burress than Sean Taylor)
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As soon as you call it the “Civil War”, you are already spinning.

I am a CT Yankee who simply calls it the War of 1861. That is the most neutral term I can come up with.


12 posted on 12/27/2010 10:47:41 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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I can see the Black Racists and Bigots coming out and whining and lying about all Civil War.

This would be a good time for all those on FR to study up on Civil War history. Get to know the facts before the fiction starts getting spewed out


13 posted on 12/27/2010 10:49:04 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Whenever something is "Global"...it means its bad for America)
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To: piroque

I wonder if they will have a reading of the CSA Constitution?

“No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passed [by Congress]”


14 posted on 12/27/2010 10:49:52 AM PST by trumandogz
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To: Tribune7

This is a really opportunity to establish in everyone’s mind that the Republican Party was anti-slavery and that Abe Lincoln was a Republican. You would be shocked at how many people do not know that.


15 posted on 12/27/2010 10:49:58 AM PST by texmexis best (`)
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To: Dr. Sivana

even us yankee folks from NJ can read this article and get a wiff of stink...


16 posted on 12/27/2010 10:50:09 AM PST by OL Hickory (Jesus and the American soldier-1 died for your soul/1 died for your freedom)
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I read two extremely illuminating books on the CW this year: April, 1865 and The PIG to the Civil War. Both were incredible, both gave the facts, and both had the take that the South was perfectly within its rights to split off from the Union. The latter gave an imaginary scenario whereby the South gave up on slavery (which, acc'd to the former, they were getting really close to doing anyway) and rejoined the Union in time to fight in WWI. No malice, no "reconstruction," none of that stuff. I think it should rightly be called "The War of Northern Aggression" as well as the "Civil War," and that as the assorted dates are marked, that the South as a whole, with the lifestyle, the economy, etc., needs to be seen for what it was: a bunch of guys who didn't like being pushed around by those they didn't feel had a right to do so.

Just my 2 cents. My GGGrandfather fought in the Iowa Regulars and was very active in Veterans' Affairs after the war, and I've only set foot in the south twice, so I guess I'm a Yankee.

17 posted on 12/27/2010 10:50:42 AM PST by Othniel (There is no god named Allah, and Mohammed is its false prophet.)
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I predict 500 replies. I'll be the first to get things going.

Abraham Lincoln was a Saint.

18 posted on 12/27/2010 10:50:56 AM PST by Graybeard58
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To: skeeter

Were this crowd in charge then, they’d have simply retreated from South Carolina and said ‘oh well’. When exactly did the slaves stop being slaves in Delaware again ?


19 posted on 12/27/2010 10:53:15 AM PST by major-pelham
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To: Dr. Sivana
The victor gets naming rights. Our War of Independence would have been called the Colonial Rebellion if GB won and the Civil War would have been the war of independence, or the war of northern aggression if the Confederacy prevailed.
20 posted on 12/27/2010 10:53:59 AM PST by AU72
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