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Two flight schools at Santa Monica Airport denied by City Hall
Santa Monica Daily Press ^ | 12/24/10 | Taborekwrite

Posted on 12/27/2010 12:03:54 PM PST by pabianice

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Pure Leftist evil. Environmental impact? Two trainer airplanes? Upon CA's ultra-heavy car and truck pollution?
1 posted on 12/27/2010 12:04:00 PM PST by pabianice
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If you read it though you see it’s about low level flight - ie the noise from the planes.

Not everything environmental is CO2.

If they had used CO2 as the reason I’m pretty sure any reasonable court would have overturned it.


2 posted on 12/27/2010 12:10:52 PM PST by Christian Engineer Mass (Capitol Hill operator 866-727-4894 toll free. Just say which Representative/Senator you want to spea)
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To: pabianice

The SM city council is trying to shut down the airport altogether.


3 posted on 12/27/2010 12:19:31 PM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: Christian Engineer Mass
If you read it though you see it’s about low level flight - ie the noise from the planes.

LOL! Try finding the noise from two Cessna 172s against the deafening roar of SM's 24/7 traffic. This is pure Leftist evil.

4 posted on 12/27/2010 12:32:36 PM PST by pabianice
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

Is there ANY economic enterprise in this nation, ANY job creator, that is not subject to vicious attacks from our own government?


5 posted on 12/27/2010 12:35:37 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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This is a very good policy. The last thing CA needs right now is more jobs. Kudos to the People’s Republic of Santa Monica.


6 posted on 12/27/2010 12:42:37 PM PST by Robwin
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re: noise from two Cessna 172’s

I don't know about you, but personally I find the deafening roar of a 172 configured for landing at pattern altitude a very thrilling sound! Of course to hear it you have to wait until your neighbor is not mowing the lawn or using one of those awful leaf blowers.

</sarcasm>

7 posted on 12/27/2010 12:49:14 PM PST by jwparkerjr (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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Check to see who’s ‘donated’ to the City Council re-election funds. Chances are you’ll find the current flight school owners name on the list.


8 posted on 12/27/2010 12:51:59 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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Back when Reagan was president...

I was working one Saturday with another engineer, and we hear this
noise, and wondered what it was.

A tech pokes his head in the lab, and says "That was Joe [buzzing
the building in a 152]. I guess he wants me to go pick him up
the airport. I'll be back in a bit."

Unfortunately for Joe, a cop was working a detail at the corner, and
got the tail #.

I can't remember who the tech said Joe was saying "Yes, sir", "No, sir",
and "Never again, sir" to on the phone when he got there.

9 posted on 12/27/2010 1:33:09 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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re: “Yes, sir”, “No, sir”, and “Never again, sir”

A conversation with the tower or the FSS is seldom a good thing.

One of the two or three things you NEVER want to hear the controller say, “Call the tower when you’re on the ground.” Funny how they have their little ‘code’ words and phrases they use when they’re pissed. Like, “State your intentions!”


10 posted on 12/27/2010 1:59:39 PM PST by jwparkerjr (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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For thirteen years late in the 20th Century, we lived just two blocks from the end of the takeoff runway for SM Airport. Every two years we had a small plane crash within a block or three from our suburban home. It began to seem like life in Beirut.

Like my neighbors (who ranged from both Left to Right), we came to conclude that the airport is not well-situated for these kinds of operations. It’s closely surrounded by densely developed single family homes. Better to shift its entire general aviation load elsewhere. The land would be even more productive if used for other commercial applications.

The Hollywood celebs who are the facility’s most profitable patrons may be inconvenienced by its departure; in that event, my heart bleeds for them.


11 posted on 12/27/2010 2:01:46 PM PST by earglasses (I was blind, and now I hear...)
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The SM city council is trying to shut down the airport altogether.

The city council and the NIMBY neighbors. Liberal irony marches on. Eventually, the city will have no economy.

12 posted on 12/27/2010 2:03:36 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Are you kidding me??)
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For thirteen years late in the 20th Century, we lived just two blocks from the end of the takeoff runway for SM Airport. Every two years we had a small plane crash within a block or three from our suburban home. It began to seem like life in Beirut. Like my neighbors (who ranged from both Left to Right), we came to conclude that the airport is not well-situated for these kinds of operations.

One wonders if the airport was there when you moved 'just two blocks from the end of the takeoff runway'?

13 posted on 12/27/2010 2:04:27 PM PST by SeeSac
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Crashes of planes entering or exiting S.M. Airport are extremely rare, and almost NEVER on a residential street. It is an incredibly safe airport. I found it very pleasant to live nearby, especially when pilots are flying their vintage WWII aircraft on weekends.


14 posted on 12/27/2010 2:07:33 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Are you kidding me??)
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Who was there first? The airport or the homes?


15 posted on 12/27/2010 2:13:33 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Conservative States of America has a nice ring to it.)
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Kudos to the People’s Republic of Santa Monica.

?

16 posted on 12/27/2010 2:14:07 PM PST by Clint Williams ( America -- a great idea, didn't last. The only reasonable response to jihad is Crusade.)
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Who was there first? The airport or the homes?

I don't think I have ever heard of an instance where a city had to exercise their power of Eminent Domain in order to clear area to build a new airport. Typically, most of these secondary airports started out as grass strips miles from the nearest house.

17 posted on 12/27/2010 2:41:50 PM PST by immadashell
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“Crashes are...extremely rare”???

Just within the past decade, the place has averaged a fatal crash every seventeen months. Check the facts under “accidents” at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Monica_Airport

As for who got there first, airport or homeowners, it doesn’t matter. It would now better serve the public interest to move the airport than to try to get rid of all of the homes imperiled by the place.


18 posted on 12/27/2010 2:52:37 PM PST by earglasses (I was blind, and now I hear...)
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The homes near Santa Monica airport are not “imperiled.” Good grief. We recognize lib talking points when we see them. This is Free Republic, you know.


19 posted on 12/27/2010 4:07:31 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Are you kidding me??)
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So, in other words, the airport must move because it was there first. Nevermind the fact that homeowner built or bought knowingly next to an active airport.

Got it.


20 posted on 12/27/2010 6:36:33 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Conservative States of America has a nice ring to it.)
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