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EPA, Texas go to war over carbon-emission rules (What can a state do if it loses in court?)
Hotair ^ | 12/26/2010 | Ed Morrisey

Posted on 12/27/2010 12:41:21 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Free Vulcan

It doesn’t outweigh the rest of the state, unlike in MO. Also, as long as they are bottled up in Austin, they don’t get to harm anyone else. :)


181 posted on 12/28/2010 10:02:01 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: TV Dinners

“write your congressman... although I doubt they will care enough to read your concerns.”

Maybe not, but at least they’ll have something to light their cigar with.

I learned the hard way that most of them have only contempt for us ‘little people’.


182 posted on 12/28/2010 10:03:19 AM PST by MichaelCorleone
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To: SeekAndFind

We learned from the immigration debate that states aren’t responsible for enforcing federal laws.

lol.


183 posted on 12/28/2010 10:13:13 AM PST by GeronL (#7 top poster at CC, friend to all, nicest guy ever, +96/-14, ignored by 1 sockpuppet.. oh & BANNED)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wow, I could have sworn that California was way higher on that list. I recall hearing somewhere that we were at or near the top when the battle in Iraq began. Maybe I was wrong. I just sent one off in August and another will go to basic in May. Maybe that’ll bump the stats a bit.;o)


184 posted on 12/28/2010 10:26:56 AM PST by yooling (God only asks for 10%. Uncle Sam wants it all.)
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To: B4Ranch

The president can simply Federalize the state National guard.


On June 11, 1963, Wallace, surrounded by Alabama state troopers, confronted and blocked Assistant U.S. Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach and the African American students from entering the university.
President Kennedy had to federalize the National Guard and send them to the campus to assist with the integration process.
Wallace did eventually step aside and allow the students to register.


185 posted on 12/28/2010 10:27:46 AM PST by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Spktyr

This is a good idea to start. Alaska and other states who can operate independently should be working on this, as well as other plans.


186 posted on 12/28/2010 11:13:17 AM PST by momincombatboots (In a few months I will be Ore..Gone! Look out Crater Lake, here we come!)
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To: SeekAndFind

All we are saying, is give War a chance.


187 posted on 12/28/2010 11:13:26 AM PST by PGR88
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To: bill1952

If I recall correctly that has been changed. Wasn’t there a long debate about Kennedy federalizing the National Guard over the objections of Wallace? A violation of states rights or something like that.


188 posted on 12/28/2010 11:30:41 AM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: SeekAndFind
(What can a state do if it loses in court?)

SECEDE!

189 posted on 12/28/2010 11:38:59 AM PST by Aroostook25
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To: Java4Jay
I side with the South, just like last time.

You're showing your age. :)

Yeah, I'd side with Texas and the south as well. This federal government has overstepped its bounds, and it's getting worse.

190 posted on 12/28/2010 12:09:37 PM PST by meyer (Obama - the Schwartz is with him.)
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To: EyeGuy

“I wish ALL the STATES would stand up to Washington in this way...”

####

Should happen.

Won’t happen.

Yeah, not even in Texas.


The COLLAPSE is coming. If nothing changes — it WILL happen.

Then — EVERYTHING you thought was impossible, becomes utterly possible — perhaps even likely — overnight.

The COLLAPSE is coming. Never say “Never.”

:-)


191 posted on 12/28/2010 1:25:21 PM PST by patriot preacher
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To: MeganC

I have no doubt that if the South had forced the Union to recognize them as an independent nation slavery would have died a natural death, the north would be more like socialist Europe, and the south would be more like what the US is supposed to be like.


192 posted on 12/28/2010 1:30:10 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: austingirl

If at first you don’t secede, try, try again.


193 posted on 12/28/2010 4:00:32 PM PST by bIlluminati (Don't just hope for change, work for change in 2011-2012.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Oregon and Maine have terrible job prospects for young people. D.C. does, too, but they learn their loyalty from the elites living in D.C., and see from them no vision of shared sacrifice.


194 posted on 12/28/2010 4:04:49 PM PST by bIlluminati (Don't just hope for change, work for change in 2011-2012.)
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To: SeekAndFind

END THE EPA...EDU...INTERIOR....ENERGY..ETCETC.

HUCK HAS A PETITION DRIVE TO REPEAL OBAMACARE.

It is time to start a push to end agencies that rule by fiat, without the approval of the people ( House)


195 posted on 12/28/2010 7:36:54 PM PST by Marty62 (Marty 60)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Slavery was an invention of Mass (by a Black man).

No idea that comes from Northern Liberals deserves the light of day.


196 posted on 12/28/2010 7:49:37 PM PST by Marty62 (Marty 60)
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To: Clump; Spktyr

Prior to secession, there IS one thing that the Governor and the Texas Legislature need to get together and do: Draft a Constitution for a new National Government. Feel free to base it upon the U.S. Constitution, but take pains to remedy verbiage in the original that has proven vulnerable to, er, “reinterpretation.” Also, make it a point to sift through the various and sundry Amendments, and cull out the weak sisters among them (16th, etc).

Perhaps restrict the right to vote to those who are actual stakeholders (land owners, business proprietors, investors, etc), rather than simply residents. Either way, make the presentation of legal, verifiable identification mandatory.

Maybe constitutionally outlaw the imposition of property and estate taxes... Whatever you end up with, it had better not be 2,000+ pages, or we’ll all know there were RINOs involved, and that’ll kill the whole deal.

Anyhow, at the time of secession, publish the draft document, and invite any and all like-minded States to join Texas in the formation of a new Nation having that Constitution as its foundation.

Then sit back with a cold brew and watch as the game transforms into Constitution v. Constitution, and — all across America — “We, The People” wake up to a real opportunity to grab the brass ring of freedom; to decide which Constitution better defines the True nature of Liberty (above the purview of governments to define or to limit), and better protects same.

The gambit might not have the magnitude of impact that one might like, but it’s a fair bet that a half dozen States would jump that fence in short order, and MANY others would face great popular pressure to follow suit. Those that didn’t come on along would face serious issues with net outmigration, and the first problem faced by the new Nation would be how to deal with a sudden influx of Americans who’s former States of residence hadn’t had the foresight to abandon a sinking ship of state.

Whatever the ultimate outcome, it’d be worth it all just to subject the elites in Washington D.C. and their leg-humping media presstitutes to that intense degree of pucker factor.


197 posted on 12/28/2010 10:48:00 PM PST by HKMk23 (WANT DIFFERENT? VOTE DIFFERENT!)
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To: Java4Jay

I’m sure compliance with the EPA regulations will require some hugely expensive equipment. Does anyone know who manufactures this equipment? Could it be General Electric? It seems like everything Obama does is designed to help GE and/or the unions!


198 posted on 12/29/2010 12:39:26 AM PST by REPANDPROUDOFIT (General, sir, it is perfectly ok to call me "ma'am"!)
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To: SeekAndFind

To hell with the Court battle...

Tell the Marxist bastards at the EPA to come to Texas and MAKE US obey!

Then when the a-holes arrive...

You Texans open up on them with EVERYTHING you got!

ANNIHILATE them!!!


199 posted on 12/29/2010 1:42:44 AM PST by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !When a majority of the American)
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To: SeekAndFind; george76; SierraWasp; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Carry_Okie; ForGod'sSake; SunkenCiv; ...

200 posted on 12/29/2010 2:20:45 AM PST by Seadog Bytes ("Smart Growth"... isn't.)
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