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The Red and Blue States' Fort Sumter (EPA vs. Texas)
American Spectator ^ | December 28, 2010 | William Tucker

Posted on 12/28/2010 4:50:45 AM PST by reaganaut1

The opening shot of the War Between the Red and Blue States may have been fired last Friday when the Environmental Protection Administration announced its intention to take over Texas's authority on issuing clean air permits to new industrial facilities as of January 2.

It is hard to imagine a more stark confrontation between public and private sector-oriented economies. Texas has the strongest economy in the nation, based on its philosophy of limited government. The Texas Legislature convenes only in odd-numbered years is constitutionally limited to meeting only 140 days. Until this year, Texas has had a budget surplus and still has $7.5 billion in a rainy-day fund created by voters in 1988. During 2006 and 2007, Texas created 52 percent of all new jobs in the nation, according to a study done by the Southern Methodist University's Cox School of Business. People are flocking to the state so fast that Texas will gain four seats in the House of Representatives in the new decade.

Washington, on the other hand, has run up a trillion-dollar budget deficit and destroyed private-sector jobs all over the country while expanding the government and presiding over 10 percent unemployment. The states on the East and West Coast that adhere most closely to Washington's philosophy are approaching insolvency. Yet they continue to pursue dreamy energy agendas, trying to close down existing power plants and refusing to build new ones while planning for a world running on windmills and solar collectors.

Now Washington is going to try to impose this blue-state agenda on Texas. The struggle will dwarf the Arizona-versus-Washington contest over immigration.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cwii; epa; lisapjackson

1 posted on 12/28/2010 4:50:50 AM PST by reaganaut1
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To: steelyourfaith

Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and global warming ping.


2 posted on 12/28/2010 4:51:36 AM PST by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

TX should say “NO.” The Feds shouldn’t be allowed to pursue an agenda rejected by TX voters.


3 posted on 12/28/2010 4:53:19 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: reaganaut1

TX should say “NO.” The Feds shouldn’t be allowed to pursue an agenda rejected by TX voters.


4 posted on 12/28/2010 4:53:52 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: reaganaut1

TX should say “NO.” The Feds shouldn’t be allowed to pursue an agenda rejected by TX voters.


5 posted on 12/28/2010 4:53:56 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: reaganaut1; enough_idiocy; meyer; Normandy; Whenifhow; TenthAmendmentChampion; Clive; scripter; ...
Thanx reaganaut1, and a very Merry Christmas and Best Wishes for the New Year to you, too !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

6 posted on 12/28/2010 4:57:26 AM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: reaganaut1

Don’t think for a minute all the people heading to Texas are conservatives. Libs are coming to save ya all like they have saved NY, Ca., Mass., and others. They will cut thru your surpluses like a Rosie at a cookie jar. Not wishing it on ya, it’s what they do


7 posted on 12/28/2010 5:02:11 AM PST by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: reaganaut1

Secede Texas while you still can- the Fed is come down to you having great wrath b/c you are still prospering. Can’t have that ya know!


8 posted on 12/28/2010 5:04:53 AM PST by Gasshog (going to get what all those libs asked for, but its not what they expected.)
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To: reaganaut1

This is not good. These kinds of lame-brain actions over time could result in Texas deciding that it’s better off on it’s own.


9 posted on 12/28/2010 5:09:28 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Palin 2012: Renew, Revive, and Restore)
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To: reaganaut1

You will be seeing more of the fight by the Libs in govt. agencies to help the Blue states by punishing the Red states.

Not quite the hopey/changey thing some were expecting.


10 posted on 12/28/2010 5:11:36 AM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: reaganaut1

Texas should inform the EPA that it has no authority until such time as a constitutionally elected President is in the White House. Until such time it will consider itself a independent Nation and will set it own environmental standards


11 posted on 12/28/2010 5:13:40 AM PST by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: Gasshog

Yes! When you secede, bring Missouri with you. Of course we would welcome our intervening neighbor, Oklahoma, and any other “fly-over” states.


12 posted on 12/28/2010 5:21:20 AM PST by Machavelli (True God)
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To: omegadawn

In a Civil War the citizens fight to take control of their government.

The War of Northern Aggression was not a Civil War. The South did not wish to conquer the North, They olny wished to be left alone.

The next war will be a Civil War with so many factions fighting each other it will be hard to draw the line on who to shoot.


13 posted on 12/28/2010 5:21:57 AM PST by Venturer
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To: goldstategop

ARREST EVERY EPA OFFICIAL WHO DARES SET FOOT IN TEXAS.

“In 1994, the Colorado Legislature passed a 10th Amendment resolution and later introduced a bill titled “State Sovereignty Act.” Had the State Sovereignty Act passed both houses of the legislature, it would have required all people liable for any federal tax that’s a component of the highway users fund, such as a gasoline tax, to remit those taxes directly to the Colorado Department of Revenue.” The entire article is on:

http://townhall.com/columnists/WalterEWilliams/2009/03/25/states_rebellion_pending/page/full/


14 posted on 12/28/2010 5:24:46 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Machavelli

Texas Rangers.
Oklahoma Rangers.
Missouri Rangers.

Sounds like a plan...


15 posted on 12/28/2010 5:28:52 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Gasshog

Secession? Watch out for the wrath of the Yankee revisionists. They hate that proposition.


16 posted on 12/28/2010 5:47:12 AM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: RKBA Democrat

If Texas secedes I can finally say what I have been wanting to say for a long time: “You all can go to hell. I’m going to Texas.”


17 posted on 12/28/2010 5:50:13 AM PST by Cloverfarm (This too shall pass ...)
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To: reaganaut1

TX will be the first to bolt. Just wait until the commies in DC want to bail-out CA and IL...

We are quickly reaching the preverbial straw...


18 posted on 12/28/2010 5:50:39 AM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: reaganaut1

The succession movement in Texas is quite strong....more than is being reported.

Texas won’t be the only state to split.


19 posted on 12/28/2010 5:55:34 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: reaganaut1
This is what happens when "the people" hire "Pimps in Jumpsuits" as leaders.

Elections have consequences.....

Memo to the world: Texas does not suffer fools well....official response may be slow...but response is certain.....!

20 posted on 12/28/2010 6:04:29 AM PST by cbkaty (Never yield to force. Never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy---W Churchill)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Many of us decided that years ago.


21 posted on 12/28/2010 6:25:14 AM PST by Rich21IE
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To: Le Chien Rouge
"Texas won’t be the only state to split."

It wouldn't surprise me to se TX and OK do it on the same day as a show of unity. I swear I'm headed for TX or OK some day...I hope they'll welcome two conservatives looking to WORK for a living.

22 posted on 12/28/2010 6:32:12 AM PST by Mich Patriot
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To: Machavelli

I left St. Louis, Mo. 30 years ago. Been in Texas ever since. I am sooooooo glad.


23 posted on 12/28/2010 6:34:04 AM PST by rickb308 (Nothing good ever came from someone yelling Allah Snackbar)
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To: Mich Patriot

“I hope they’ll welcome two conservatives looking to WORK for a living”

Duh. Texas will. ;-)


24 posted on 12/28/2010 6:35:38 AM PST by rickb308 (Nothing good ever came from someone yelling Allah Snackbar)
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To: Venturer

War for Independence - win
2nd War for Independence - loss

Tie breaker?


25 posted on 12/28/2010 6:35:44 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: wolfcreek

Talk of secession always gets the collectivists’ panties in a wad,

because it is THE trump card that foils all their control freak fantasies.

Two aspects of human (sin) nature that make up the leftist ideology:
1) desire to control others
2) desire to live at the expense of others


26 posted on 12/28/2010 6:37:11 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: txhurl; basil
EPA vs Texas ping.

During 2006 and 2007, Texas created 52 percent of all new jobs in the nation

This is what ticks obozo and DC off and they want to stop it now.

27 posted on 12/28/2010 6:44:01 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Whether corruption is in politics, science, education, research, etc., always follow the money.)
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To: Arrowhead1952
obammy just might have bitten off more than he can chew .

DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS!!!

28 posted on 12/28/2010 7:03:06 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Mich Patriot

“I swear I’m headed for TX or OK some day...”

Why Wait!!!!


29 posted on 12/28/2010 7:26:38 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: basil

One thing Texas has that is great for business, is no state income tax. obozo doesn’t have a clue.


30 posted on 12/28/2010 7:28:03 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Whether corruption is in politics, science, education, research, etc., always follow the money.)
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To: reaganaut1

Not exactly Fort Sumter, since Fort Sumpter was federal property taken-over by the south. This is just the opposite, the federal government trying to take over the air and private business in Texas.


31 posted on 12/28/2010 7:33:02 AM PST by smokingfrog (Do all the talking you want, but do what I tell you.)
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To: Le Chien Rouge
"Why Wait!!!!"

Great question...daughter and fiancee' here in Michigan, plus I have a decent job with 27+ years. Fiancee' has a similar situation with 25+ years.

32 posted on 12/28/2010 7:49:41 AM PST by Mich Patriot (...politics is the second oldest profession...it bears a striking resemblance to the first." RReagan)
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To: Arrowhead1952

obammy is indeed clueless—until it comes to taxes. As soon as he figures out that we don’t have a state income tax, he will figure a way to tax Texans with a special tax equal to what we would bring in with a state income tax.......


33 posted on 12/28/2010 7:49:55 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: reaganaut1

The governor should say “The EPA has made its decision. Now lets see them enforce it.” Then notify the Texas Rangers to deal with any EPA or Judicial types that DO try to enforce this cr@p.


34 posted on 12/28/2010 8:02:45 AM PST by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: basil

I guess you’ve heard the state legislature is talking about raising the fuel taxes, since it has been the same since 1991. They need more funds for road upkeep. I guess the toll roads are not enough.


35 posted on 12/28/2010 8:17:31 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Whether corruption is in politics, science, education, research, etc., always follow the money.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

If they actually use the extra money for roads, I don’t mind. That is—if they use the money for other than toll roads—which I never use.

There are a lot of secondary roads that could use some work, though.

Having said all of that—I can hardly drive more than 15 miles in any direction before I hit road construction!

Guess it’s keeping people employed.............


36 posted on 12/28/2010 8:58:06 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: wolfcreek

Secession? Watch out for the wrath of the Yankee revisionists. They hate that proposition.’

They need to look in the mirror to see the source of most of these problems.
Let them look at what ‘their representatives & Senators’ vote for.


37 posted on 12/28/2010 9:15:54 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: basil
I hear you about secondary roads needing some improvements. Last year TXDOT resurfaced 1431 from just outside Cedar Park to west of Lago Vista.

Well, now they are adding right turn lanes several places. I don't understand why they did not do that before putting down the new pavement.

38 posted on 12/28/2010 9:22:49 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Whether corruption is in politics, science, education, research, etc., always follow the money.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

They probably didn’t do the turn lanes at the same time because it’s another set of union stooges who do the turn lanes—LOL!


39 posted on 12/28/2010 9:36:58 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: reaganaut1

I was born and raised in Texas. Recently, I saw a bumber sticker that said “ I’m from Texas. What country are your from?” Truth is, Texas has never considered itself subservient to the U.S. government.


40 posted on 12/28/2010 9:46:03 AM PST by BeckB
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To: basil

That is what my wife also said when we were talking about the additional construction. Got to take care of all the unions.


41 posted on 12/28/2010 9:49:39 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Whether corruption is in politics, science, education, research, etc., always follow the money.)
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To: Venturer

If Texas was to secede from Union , it is estimated that as many as 25 states would go with it. They would control 2/3 of the military forces. You are correct about the “civil war”, it was a war started by the North(Lincoln),who did not want to lose the taxes paid by the south. The south was trying to restore the original Constitution. I wonder if the current government(obama) is not wanting a issue like this so that they can invoke martial law and use it as a excuse to take total control.


42 posted on 12/28/2010 9:52:00 AM PST by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: Venturer

The next war will be a Civil War with so many factions fighting each other it will be hard to draw the line on who to shoot.


Its simple, aim for the tax hiking, gun grabbing bibliophobes that support gay marriage and environmentalism...

43 posted on 12/28/2010 12:44:46 PM PST by Nat Turner (I can see NOVEMBER from my house....)
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To: Nat Turner

...I was going to say something about “God knowing His own...”


44 posted on 12/28/2010 5:37:02 PM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

That is about right...we will see if 2011 will be 1859 redux


45 posted on 12/29/2010 6:46:31 AM PST by Nat Turner (I can see NOVEMBER from my house....)
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To: All

Isn’t it ironic the War Between the States started exactly 150 years ago? Just a quick observation to this bookmark bump.


46 posted on 12/30/2010 9:25:51 AM PST by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: Venturer
The next war will be a Civil War with so many factions fighting each other it will be hard to draw the line on who to shoot.

Red herring alert! If Texas secedes at the beginning nobody will even notice the difference. The federal government really plays a tiny role in most peoples lives. The only thing that will change is on the paychecks the Federal withholding will now go to the Republic of Texas.

These are not you GGGF Yankees, they won't fight to "preserve the Union" .

47 posted on 12/30/2010 9:40:35 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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