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Coming Soon To Tampa Public Housing: Free Internet Access
Tampa Tribune ^ | Dec 23, 2010 | Rachel Pleasant

Posted on 12/28/2010 7:34:41 AM PST by Iron Munro

Jackie Dones and her three daughters recognize the value of the Internet.

They have homework and class projects, job searches and employment applications all waiting for them in cyberspace.

But for Dones, a part-time cashier at Family Dollar and a resident of the North Boulevard Homes, a public housing project, paying $90 a month for cable, phone and Internet is a struggle. Evidence of the struggle: the family was without Internet for two months until just before Christmas, when Dones managed to pay the late fee on her account, providing at least a brief reprieve.

"They'll probably turn it off tomorrow," she said.

Dones is about to get a break.

The Tampa Housing Authority has secured a $2.1 million federal grant to provide broadband Internet access to 23 public housing sites. Details are being finalized with Bright House Networks, which will provide the service, and residents will be connected beginning March 1.

The project will be the first such one in Florida and one of the few in the nation.

Internet access will be available to about 3,400 residents for free for the first two years. After two years, residents will be able to pay for the access for the next three years for $18.35 per month.

In addition to having Internet access, the housing authority also will make available a selection of computer training options, including basic computer and Internet keyboarding, Microsoft A+ Certification and an online computer curriculum for school-age children.

The program also will help residents get computers of their own by offering 1,000 computers for only $125 and will install almost 200 computers in two communities to offer residents a designated work space. The authority also will launch a website for residents to provide information on housing, employment opportunities, and the like.

While some might view Internet access in subsidized housing as a luxury, housing authority officials don't. They say Internet access in this day and age is a basic necessity that can mean the difference between moving out of public housing or not.

"Having access to the Internet is like having a stove or refrigerator or a phone. You can't function without it," said Jerome Ryans, the authority's president and CEO. "We've got to break the cycle of the revolving door of public housing. We have to give them the help to get things done."

Having the Internet consistently available at home will make a huge difference, Dones said. During periods when she didn't have it in her home, she went to the library. But there's a time limit on surfing the Internet at the library, and that made it difficult for her to fill out a job application or do homework for her behavioral health courses at Brewster Technical College.

"You're trying to fill out an application and you feel like it's a big test because it's timed," Dones said.

THA isn't the first public housing authority to offer Internet access to residents. In San Francisco, the city, the housing authority and a nonprofit organization called Internet Archived have partnered to make Internet access available to 6,000 public housing households.

The access has only been widely available for a few months, said Ralf Muehlen, network administrator for Internet Archive, but he says he already can point to specific examples of lives improved by the service.

"One woman is pursuing her education. She had to go to a computer lab at San Francisco State University to use a computer lab. It was a 45-minute trip. Now the need to do that trip is gone," said Muehlen, meaning the woman can spend that time studying, not in transit.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: governmentspending; taxes; welfare
This article was published in the print edition today, 12/28/2010 with the title "Housing Authority To Provide Web Free", but this is the only version available online

Isn't this just more deficit spending to provide more STEALTH REPARATIONS?

People struggling to pay their own bills and living without internet access are being put further in debt by the feds in order to provide free internet access and subsidized computers for people who have been living on the backs of taxpayers for generations.

1 posted on 12/28/2010 7:34:47 AM PST by Iron Munro
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To: Iron Munro

How come I have to pay for MY internet. WHERE’S MY CHECK?????


2 posted on 12/28/2010 7:40:08 AM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: Iron Munro

Well, it IS a ‘basic human right’, after all...


3 posted on 12/28/2010 7:44:01 AM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Iron Munro

Hey Jackie, you want free internet? Go to starbucks!


4 posted on 12/28/2010 7:50:43 AM PST by rockrr ("I said that I was scared of you!" - pokie the pretend cowboy)
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To: Iron Munro
...paying $90 a month for cable, phone and Internet is a struggle.

Shutting off the cable, of course, is out of the question. Also, I've got $50 that says she has a cell phone in addition to the house phone. Another $25 says at least one of the daughters has a cell phone as well.

5 posted on 12/28/2010 7:55:21 AM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: Iron Munro

Interesting. So if the Gov pays for internet do they also start blocking certain sites for Tampa Public Housing residents?


6 posted on 12/28/2010 8:01:27 AM PST by rhombus
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To: Iron Munro

Normal people in tight situations either go wireless with a group of others, or go to the library.

I bet the cable or Dish bill gets paid on time.


7 posted on 12/28/2010 8:02:33 AM PST by Chickensoup (I am no longer Republican or Democrat, I am Conservative.)
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To: Pan_Yan

Maybe she’s got one of those free govt cell phones.


8 posted on 12/28/2010 8:03:04 AM PST by nascarnation
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To: WayneS
Well, it IS a ‘basic human right’, after all...

It almost has to be, at least in the case of children. At least a bare minimum would be having internet access at schools and libraries. That is, unless you want there to be some permanent class gulf in America which nobody could ever bridge in one lifetime.

9 posted on 12/28/2010 8:05:39 AM PST by wendy1946
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To: WayneS

In other words, we don’t need to be in the business of giving the idiots excuses for class warfare politics.


10 posted on 12/28/2010 8:06:35 AM PST by wendy1946
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To: WayneS

C’mon guys - get with the program. It’s part of the “Commerce” clause in the Constitution that also gives us obozocare.


11 posted on 12/28/2010 8:14:09 AM PST by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: Iron Munro

p o r n


12 posted on 12/28/2010 8:18:45 AM PST by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: wendy1946
That is, unless you want there to be some permanent class gulf in America which nobody could ever bridge in one lifetime.

An easier way to cause a class gulf would be to adopt a welfare program called The Great Society.

13 posted on 12/28/2010 8:19:16 AM PST by HIDEK6
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To: rhombus
So if the Gov pays for internet do they also start blocking certain sites for Tampa Public Housing residents?

They'll probably block FOX News, Drudge and Free Republic.

14 posted on 12/28/2010 8:20:16 AM PST by Iron Munro (Claire Wolfe: Leave the government even if you can’t leave the country.)
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To: bigdaddy45

Stuff like this makes me want to scream.

After 14years we dumped DirecTV because of budget constraints. Now I pay $60 a month for a grandfathered Alltel 3G wireless plan for Internet. So we struggle to make ends meet and welfare leeches get taxpayer funded broadband free???

Screw that!

And no, I can’t get cable. No access. But I still pay into the USF.


15 posted on 12/28/2010 8:27:43 AM PST by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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To: Kieri

It drives me nuts. You want high speed internet? Then pay for it. Or steal it from your neighbor with the unprotected wireless router. But don’t make me pay for it for you.


16 posted on 12/28/2010 8:31:55 AM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: wendy1946
At least a bare minimum would be having internet access at schools and libraries.

You're right -- and I suspect the girls in the article have that. As for creating an unbridgeable class gulf, it already exists.

It shows, as some other commenters have pointed out, in the insistence on having cellphones, cable TV and a landline -- any of which could be sacrificed if Internet access were so damned important.

It obviously isn't.

17 posted on 12/28/2010 8:40:40 AM PST by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: Iron Munro
She had to go to a computer lab at San Francisco State University to use a computer lab.

You mean she actually had to a computer lab in order to use a computer lab? What an OUTRAGEOUS violation of her civil rights!

18 posted on 12/28/2010 8:46:38 AM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Iron Munro

And the beat goes on!

Reparations for slavery?

When a black woman is one of the richest people in America?

When a black man was Secretary of State??

When a black woman was Secretary of State?

When black men have sat — and do sit — on the Supreme Court??

When a black would-be despot sits in the White House?????

When countless black men have risen to the top of the ranks of the richest in professional sports and show business?? Men like Hank Aaron. Men like Bill Cosby who... (Never mind. As we all know, Bill’s either an Uncle Tom or Oreo Cookie, depending on which black race pimp you listen to.)

And, how about Liberation Theology?

Liberation from WHAT? The chance to achieve and succeed??

Give me a break!!

Let me make it clear right up front: I am NOT a racist. I supported Herman Cain in his run for the Senate. And if he ever runs again, I would probably support him again (and he’s recently begun to talk about just that).

I also consider Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams two of the finest economists and minds extant today. In case you don’t know them, both are black.

Sowell, Williams and Cain – among others — have spoken out against those fellow blacks who castigate and vilify America for a slavery now long in our past. And ALL thinking men and women oppose the periodic calls for reparations. (When he ran, I supported Alan Keyes. I even spoke in his stead on the RTKABA at a Capitol rally and was asked to fill in for him on his radio show at the time. Sadly, while I still consider Alan a good man, I have had to rethink my support since he came out FOR reparations.)

The fact is that the modern descendants of slaves brought here in chains in admittedly miserable, soul-gutting conditions now calling for reparations need to remember something:

They should not only be glad to be in America, they should be glad to be ANYWHERE!

Had their ancestors NOT been brought OUT of Africa – many by Muslim slave raiders —the blood of those ancestors would have run into the earth over there several centuries ago, victims of the OTHER black tribes that captured them in one of the interminable tribal conflicts STILL ravaging that sad continent and these modern day would-be “plaintiffs” would not even exist.

And I would remind you that slavery is STILL practiced in parts of Africa (mainly by – American BLACK muslims LISTEN UP!! — MUSLIMS) and Asia today. How ironic that disgruntled American blacks are embracing a system that participated mightily in their initial bondage – and would, if Islam takes root here, probably put any who cling to their Christianity back INTO BONDAGE – or to the sword.

95% of the African slaves who were transported across the Atlantic went to South and Central America, mainly to Portuguese, Spanish and French possessions, and that less than 5% of the slaves who crossed the Atlantic went to the United States, it was remarkable that the vast majority of academic research, films, books and articles concerning the slave trade concentrated only on the American involvement, as though slavery was a uniquely American aberration.

And should the great-great-great grandchildren of SLAVE OWNING BLACKS also be subject to PAYING these reparations? If so, how do we find THEM?

And I have traced MY family back to the SLAVS. Although the term looks to be related to “slave,” depending on your source, it either means “glory” or “worshipper.” But my family research indicates that many of my of my ancestors LIVED lives of virtual slavery to some despot or other. Do I qualify for reparations? From whom?? And it begs a question: Are most of us now living here headed into a modern form off that servitude? But that’s a topic for another discussion.

The official US Census of 1830 lists 3,775 free blacks who owned 12,740 black slaves. Furthermore, the story outlines the history of slavery here, and the first slave owner, the Father of American slavery, was Mr Anthony Johnson, of Northampton, Virginia. His slave was John Casor, the first slave for life. Both were black Africans. The story is very readable, and outlines cases of free black women owning their husbands, free black parents selling their children into slavery to white owners, and absentee free black slave owners, who leased their slaves to plantation owners.
-”Selling Poor Steven”, American Heritage Magazine, Feb/Mar 1993 (Vol. 441) p 90

Of course, a full telling of Black History would not be complete without a recitation of the origin of slavery in the Virginia colony:
Virginia, Guide to The Old Dominion, WPA Writers’ Program, Oxford University Press, NY, 1940, p. 378

And the holier-than-thou Northern liberals are strangely silent on recent archeological evidence from NEW YORK CITY clearly tracing the financing of the slave trade to NORTHERN BUSINESSMEN!!

At the height of his remarkable boxing career, Muhammad Ali (born Cassius Clay), once declared “I’m glad my great-grandpa got on that boat.”

And speaking of ancestors, my paternal grandmother’s daddy joined with the 80th Ohio Volunteer Infantry early in the War Between the States (reupped twice) and fought on the Union side at Chickamauga, Vicksburg, Jackson then joined up with Sherman for that infamous march to the sea through Georgia. My wife’s great-great grandpappy ALSO fought for the Union. While I revere the memory of my ancestors, inasmuch as that conflict was less about slavery than it was the economic exploitation and abuse of the South by the North, I fear they MAY have been on the wrong side.

Author Robert Hitt Neill tells of attending a Tennessee Mountain Writer’s Conference years ago with several other authors. Among them was Alex Hailey, celebrated author of “Roots.” Watching a TV news show, a group of them watched a demonstration in a Southern state against the “Rebel” flag incorporated into that state’s flag. The very next report covered a famine in Africa. Graphic images showed dead bodies, starving children with distended tummies and runny noses and dying people covered with flies, too weak to brush them away.

Mr. Hailey intoned in a low, serious voice, “Every time an American black sees a story like that, they should find a Confederate flag and kiss it.” He then pointed to the TV screen and continued, “Because these would be me and my descendants, except for American slavery. I thank God that my family and I are here instead of there.”

Next problem!
Dick Bachert


19 posted on 12/28/2010 8:47:28 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: wendy1946

I think you are on the wrong forum - this is a CONSERVATIVE forum not a socialist one. If they want internet - get a job and pay for it. That’s what I’ve done and I do without other things so that I have broadband internet access.


20 posted on 12/28/2010 8:48:36 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Pan_Yan

cell phone should be free also under the new obama giveaway program....


21 posted on 12/28/2010 8:52:09 AM PST by tatsinfla
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To: wendy1946
It almost has to be, at least in the case of children.

Oh for the love of God...

"Conservatives" like you will be the death of this Nation, mark my words.

22 posted on 12/28/2010 8:52:15 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Iron Munro

[behavioral health courses at Brewster Technical College.]

Just what the world needs - another social worker with a welfare entitlement attitude.


23 posted on 12/28/2010 8:59:47 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Iron Munro

how much ya wanna bet that any of these people EVER see a bill for $18.95 for their internet service?

The EU Parliament recently declared universal broadband access to be a “basic human right”. Looks like that’s the direction we’re headed folks.


24 posted on 12/28/2010 9:07:12 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: All
I live in the sticks. In a Valley off the beaten path. But I have three business's that I run.

No Cable No Hi speed Internet No Cell Service No Broadcast TV.

I pay $86 per month for my land line phone,$90 per month for Hughes Net so I can have Internet access, $120 per month for cell phones that are forwarded to the land line most of the time and $80 for Directv ( so I can watch O’Boozer destroy my country).

Where is my Free Stuff?

25 posted on 12/28/2010 9:38:43 AM PST by troy McClure
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To: wendy1946




A wise man and indentured servant who did not need a personnel Internet account to learn.


26 posted on 12/28/2010 10:04:43 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: BfloGuy
[As for creating an unbridgeable class gulf, it already exists.]

Yep. There's the Vanguard Elite and then there's, well...



...the rest of us who are not -- for whom thinking as an Individual is..... forbidden...
 

27 posted on 12/28/2010 10:25:05 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: rollo tomasi

Believe it or not, it’s actually possible to be conservative without being stupid. Denying children food or the wherewithal to study or succeed in school is plain ****ing stupid. It just should not be that hard to devise ways to ensure that children have what they actually need without doing violence to normal morality. All anybody needs for enough internet access to study is a 56K-baud modem; if you could ensure that kids had that much at home and normal internet at schools, that should probably suffice. As far as providing broadband television to anybody for free, at that point youre right and it shouldn’t be happening.


28 posted on 12/28/2010 10:30:30 AM PST by wendy1946
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To: wendy1946
All anybody needs for enough internet access to study is a 56K-baud modem; if you could ensure that kids had that much at home and normal internet at schools, that should probably suffice.

And are we supposed to supply them with the computer and phone service at home to access the internet you want to provide to them?

29 posted on 12/28/2010 10:44:32 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: wendy1946
The State and local districts should be the entity (Not Federal grants), approved by the tax payers of course, that funds to “ensure that kids had that much at home and normal Internet at schools”. The Internet is a tool, period. A local public library “ensures” that unintended consequences do not cheat the tax payers out of the little lads’ research abilities anyway. My kids did not require the Internet
30 posted on 12/28/2010 10:58:25 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: wendy1946
"Believe it or not, it’s actually possible to be conservative without being stupid."

Forgot this part. No, stupid would be ignoring Franklin's advice and making people comfortable in their poverty which you champion. How many decades has the "war on poverty" been going on? Look at the drop-out rates, drug use, illegitimacy rates, crime, wasted $$$ on education, fraud, and debt piled up because "conservatives" like yourself scream "What about the children." Feed the children, blah, debt inducing blah, blah, blah... How about telling parents to be responsible and feed their own kids rather than becoming dependent on the taxpayer to subsidize their lives.

Compassion is tough love, not using children as a shield for perpetuating a dependent class. Charity should be local, not a system of ascension to political power.
31 posted on 12/28/2010 11:25:18 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: rollo tomasi
In the mid 80s I was setting PCs up for friends, mainly for their kids in highschool and it dawned on all of us at the time that there was a big problem sitting there for a teacher trying to grade some paper when half the kids had the things and the other half didn't, i.e. that what amounted to 72 hours of work for one kids would take half an hour for the next.

Likewise in our present situation Abraham Lincoln could have grown up to be a shoe salesman if everybody else in his school had internet access and he didn't and anybody was grading on any sort of a curve.

32 posted on 12/28/2010 11:42:49 AM PST by wendy1946
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To: Pan_Yan
Shutting off the cable, of course, is out of the question. Also, I've got $50 that says she has a cell phone in addition to the house phone. Another $25 says at least one of the daughters has a cell phone as well.

I got $50 that says she buys Starbucks a few times a week too.

33 posted on 12/28/2010 11:45:25 AM PST by riri
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To: All
paying $90 a month for cable, phone and Internet is a struggle.

Where the hell can you pay for those three services and only pay $90? I want to move there.

34 posted on 12/28/2010 11:58:06 AM PST by newzjunkey
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To: wendy1946
"...72 hours of work for one kids would take half an hour for the next."

A winner of life's lottery perhaps? Does the school have labs? The Lincoln straw man is a hoot too. Also, the Internet would not help with papers I did in school. Published material and primary sources (Many you need to pay for on the Internet) are found in brick and mortar establishments/libraries. Plus it's easier to create an outline/form material with paper in front of you.

Franklin's and Lincoln's sense of ambition as well as personnel responsibility would of overcome some drone who would not know what to do in the event of a power failure or dead batteries anyway, straw man considered burnt.
35 posted on 12/28/2010 4:46:15 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: wendy1946
"with paper" should be with paper books

I guess you want to subsidize printers along with paper as well.
36 posted on 12/28/2010 4:49:26 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: Pan_Yan
Also, I've got $50 that says she has a cell phone in addition to the house phone. Another $25 says at least one of the daughters has a cell phone as well.

If you have a cell phone, you are probably helping to pay for her FREE cell phone.

37 posted on 12/28/2010 4:49:32 PM PST by SeeSac
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