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Democrats UNDER-Represented in Delaware Election. O’Donnell did not motivate Democrats
Red State ^ | December 28, 2010 | Pete Fescue

Posted on 12/28/2010 1:43:14 PM PST by Moseley

Democrats were apparently under-represented in Delaware’s US Senate race on November 2, 2010, according to CNN exit polls taken on election night.

Voter registration for Delaware’s 2010 election totaled

Democrats: 47 %.

Republicans: 29.4%.

“Other” & Independents: 23.5%

(Voter registration closed on October 9, 2010. Registration totals are as of October 21, 2010.)

http://elections.delaware.gov/services/candidate/regtotals.shtml

However, actual voter turn out according to CNN’s exit poll was:

Democrats: 44%.

Republicans: 30%.

“Other” & Independents: 27%

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2010/results/polls/#val=DES01p1

Thus Democrats were under-represented among the actual voters who turned out in the November 2 election.

Only 44% of actual voters were Democrats although 47% of all registered voters are Democrats. Republicans comprised 30% of actual voters while being only 29.4% of registered voters. (Because Democrat registration surged 11.2% between 2008 and 2010, a full 11.2% of Democrat registered voters are recently-registered and probably highly motivated to vote after recently registering.)

If CNN’s exit poll data is accurate, the theory that Christine O’Donnell energized Democrats to turn out and vote – harming Delaware’s “down ballot” races – is clearly false.

Democrats actually voted in numbers significantly less than their proportion among registered voters by 44% to 47%. Republicans voted in a slightly higher proportion than their voter registration by 30% to 29.4%. Therefore, Christine O’Donnell’s presence on the November 2 ballot clearly did not drive Democrats to vote.

Two competing theories are being disputed about the US Senate race between Republican Christine O’Donnell and Democrat Chris Coons. A major debate – perhaps even a healthy debate – is raging within the Republican Party of Delaware about the future of Republicans after the November 2, 2010.

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Delaware
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1 posted on 12/28/2010 1:43:17 PM PST by Moseley
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To: Moseley

That stupid add where she said, “I’m not a witch”... What kind of response was that... IMO, wimpy, feel good, please like me response. Not what resonates with people who know what needs to be done in Washington.


2 posted on 12/28/2010 1:49:13 PM PST by Track9 (Make War!!)
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To: Moseley

No. She lost because of media attacks, Karl Rove attacks, and Delaware State Republican Party attacks.

The media managed to persuade a lot of voters that “even Republicans” thought she was a kook. Those Republicans in Name Only all being left-wingers and pork-grubbing, professional hacks.

I don’t no how many times it needs to be said that members of the party are welcome to take sides during the primary, but that when the primary is over they should either fall behind the candidate or shut up. They smashed this rule to pieces.


3 posted on 12/28/2010 1:51:49 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Moseley

Most blame Karl Rove. If he can control elections certainly he is the most powerful politician in the country. I don’t think for a minute I would have any use for his opinion on who I vote for, but apparently many here thinks he has that ability to convince people to vote for who he wants or doesn’t want.


4 posted on 12/28/2010 1:52:31 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Track9
That stupid add where she said, “I’m not a witch”...

I think everyone -- including Christine -- agrees that the ad was a mistake.

You have to remember that Fred Davis who made the ad was (and is) supposed to be the greatest political TV advertising genius in the country. The mistake that Christine made was TRUSTING in an expert who was supposed to be the greatest TV ad genius in Republican politics.
5 posted on 12/28/2010 1:58:44 PM PST by Moseley (http://www.MeetChristineODonnell.com)
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To: napscoordinator
When you have one of the most influential Republicans like Carl Rove absolutely hammer a candidate it really hurts.

Rove has to take a big part of the blame for this defeat because she lost because of lack of republican support. Frankly, over the last 6 months it's shocking how many Republicans showed how badly they need to be retired next election cycle.

6 posted on 12/28/2010 2:00:09 PM PST by rdcbn
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To: Cicero

100% right on the mark.


7 posted on 12/28/2010 2:01:06 PM PST by MichaelCorleone
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To: Cicero

Well said. People on our side sometimes bemoan our ‘bad’ or ‘weak’ candidates. Well if our candidates had the full-throated 24/7 MSM support the other side enjoys they’d look like *great* candidates—and if their side had the relentless attacks ours endure, their candidates would would ghastly.


8 posted on 12/28/2010 2:03:05 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: napscoordinator
The night of the DE primary, when Rove was on Hannity, 99.9% of conservatives would have expected him to praise O'Donnell on a great win and his encouragement to all for her to defeat Coons in the general. Instead, what did we get from Tokyo? A girlish, hissy rant about how bad Christine was and how she couldn't win and boo-hoo-hoo. I saw it live and I was disgusted. Hannity was taken aback. Rove’s boy Castle got thumped and he was one unhappy RINO. Karl, thanks for showing me your true colors...now just GO AWAY.
9 posted on 12/28/2010 2:04:04 PM PST by JPG (A new wind is sweeping across America and we call the wind, Sarah.)
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To: napscoordinator

I totally agree. Some of the posts remind me of the left ranting about “all powerful, evil, mastermind” Karl Rove during the Bush years. Does anyone, anywhere really care about Karl Rove’s opinion (outside his family and perhaps close friends)? Whenever I see or hear Rove, I think of The Wizard of Oz when the curtain is pulled back, and the tiny little man is revealed.

It’s very simple. Delaware voters had previously rejected COD, and they rejected her again.


10 posted on 12/28/2010 2:05:29 PM PST by Padams
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To: Padams
Does anyone, anywhere really care about Karl Rove’s opinion

Certainly not anymore.

11 posted on 12/28/2010 2:09:43 PM PST by marron
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To: napscoordinator

“...but apparently many here thinks he has that ability to convince people to vote for who he wants or doesn’t want.”

Do you really believe that Rove had minimal impact on the election? Are you aware of the childish temper tantrum he put on shortly after the primary? You think a person in his position saying what he said at the time he said it did not do O’Donnell any political damage?

Either you’re shilling for Rove-boy or you need to do some extra reading.


12 posted on 12/28/2010 2:10:23 PM PST by MichaelCorleone
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To: napscoordinator

Karl Rove’s friends and “foes” are giving a lot of credit to Karl Rove.

He doesn’t deserve the credit.

The biggest takeaway based on the exit poll numbers is that
Obama motivated young black women to vote for the Democrat candidate. Black women were 14% of the voters.

So, Dems were 44% instead of 47%. Reps were 30% instead of 29%.

For weeks, all across the country, we were talking about a
enthusiasm gap, where Republicans voted and Democrats didn’t. We did not see this enthusiasm gap in Delaware.
Democrats were down a little in DE. Republicans were up a little in DE.

It had very little to do with Karl Rove. Karl Rove would like you to think he was powerful in the DE race. He was not. Obama was. Obama got the black women to the polls. And that was the biggest difference.

Christine won among whites. But there are a lot of blacks in DE. Instead of not voting, they definitely did vote and they voted for Coons. 95% of nonwhite Dems voted for Coons.

The 3 most important things in the DE race.

1) Obama helped turnout.

2) The DE Gop did not help with GOTV

3) Castle did not endorse.

Rove and the neocons were not an important factor, no matter how much they say they were.

It’s possible that if 1) Obama stayed home 2) the DE Gop helped with GOTV and 3) Castle did endorse and helped Christine, that the neocon negativity could’ve swung the race to Coons if the race was close. But the race was not close, and the numbers of people who actually like Karl Rove and the neocons in DE is a lot smaller than Karl Rove and his buddies would like you to think.


13 posted on 12/28/2010 2:15:43 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: Moseley

If you are going to take the party back from the establishment hacks, then by definition you are going to run less experienced people against wizened old veterans. Which means you will win some and you will lose some; its the nature of it.

And you are going to find your less-experienced candidate under attack by the party elite; thats guaranteed, since the elite are exactly the people you are trying to unseat.

I consider Delaware to be a win, in that we got rid of Castle. That was job one. ODonnell will live to fight another day. I’m not going to buy in on the elite’s spin about how running against Castle was a mistake; getting rid of guys like him (and exposing guys like Rove) is a large part of what we have to do to take this party back... from guys like Castle and Rove.


14 posted on 12/28/2010 2:16:26 PM PST by marron
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To: Moseley

Your point is good. To me her decision simply meant she hadn’t been through the ringer enough to know when she’s being had. I’m sure this wised and toughened her up enough to know the feel good, treat me nice approach doesn’t work. I hope she makes another run.


15 posted on 12/28/2010 2:17:08 PM PST by Track9 (Make War!!)
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To: Moseley

just be glad she lost, she served her purpose and that was to not allow another Repub like Castle to join Collins and Snowe on the east coast Rockerfeller wing.

That said she would of been a disaster on the national level, for the umteempth time we need good candiadates that further conservatism like Rubio not ones like O’Donnell that cannot further intelligent conservatism.


16 posted on 12/28/2010 2:45:57 PM PST by lakewood man
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To: Moseley

O’Donnell lost because O’bummer and his minions brought in people from out of state to vote Democrat, under the cover of fraudulent voter registrations by ACORN and others. There’s no WAY Delaware gained that many Dems in a year.


17 posted on 12/28/2010 2:52:34 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (I've giving up Facebook because of OPSEC issues.)
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To: Moseley

What a remarkably stupid article.

O’Donnell lost the overall race by 16%.

The CNN Exit poll did find that 16% of Republicans voted for Coons.

HOWEVER, only 30% of those voting were Republicans;

Therefore, if EVERY Republican had voted for O’Donnell, she would have still lost by 11%.

When someone loses a race by 16%, and they had plenty of campaign cash, the reason they lost is - they couldn’t win.


18 posted on 12/28/2010 2:58:46 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Moseley; reasonisfaith; outofstyle; Brices Crossroads; Fishtalk; onyx; MarkLevinFan; exit82; ...

I’d like to hear what the people who were here for Christine prior to the election have to say about this.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2620231/posts
this thread was posted the day after the election and is a long thread about why Christine lost, and includes many posts from people who were paying attention prior to the election.

It’s certainly not all about Rove and the neocons.


19 posted on 12/28/2010 2:59:14 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: Moseley
Democrat registration surged 11.2% between 2008 and 2010

But Demonrat insiders still think that having 'Mickey Mouse' vote in 17 precincts is a tough sell. But they would have pulled out that stop if needed. We need to train and vet candidates early - figure out who can win. Taking over some of the media would also help.

20 posted on 12/28/2010 3:00:00 PM PST by bIlluminati (Don't just hope for change, work for change in 2011-2012.)
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To: Moseley

“Therefore, Christine O’Donnell’s presence on the November 2 ballot clearly did not drive Democrats to vote.”

Well if that is true, then it is also true that Coons “clearly did not drive Democrats to vote”, because they voted in numbers below their number of registered voters. And, in the first place, wouldn’t it have been Coons JOB to “drive Democrats to vote”; not O’Donnells???

This is an article that tries to build a mountain out of a mole hill.

The REDSTATE blogger wants to convince us that its all D’Donnells fault because only 82% of GOPers, not 100%, voted for O’Donnell, in a state where her Liberal RINO primary opponent - Castle - has never been elected because of the GOP vote, but because he usually got so many Liberal Dim votes; in a state where they dominate among the 47% registered as Dims and the nearly 30% registered as independents.

“Therefore, the exit poll data shows that Republican defections to vote for the Democrat Coons were responsible for the Republican Party losing the US Senate seat from Delaware.”

This is bogus. For it to be true 100% of the GOPers would have, in an alternate universe, voted for Castle. But, the primary results, and the general preferences, indicate that Castle would have gotten less GOP votes than O’Donnell got, in the general election, with more than “18%” of GOPers staying home, instead of voting for the “other Liberal” - Castle.

All these arguments are a waste of time.

Coons won in an overwhelmingly Liberal-Left state because to the majority of voters he was neither the antithesis of their majority sentiments, nor was he the pretend RINO Liberal, Castle. To the majority (delusional Liberal majority) Coons was the “real deal” - all the way through the campaign.

The GOP did not loose because of O’Donnell. They lost because it was never theirs to win, in Delaware.


21 posted on 12/28/2010 3:01:08 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Wuli
This is bogus. For it to be true 100% of the GOPers would have, in an alternate universe, voted for Castle. But, the primary results, and the general preferences, indicate that Castle would have gotten less GOP votes than O’Donnell got, in the general election, with more than “18%” of GOPers staying home, instead of voting for the “other Liberal” - Castle.

While I agree with the general thrust of your post, the CNN exit poll results pretty show that Castle probably would have won if he'd been the nominee; with 44% of those in the exit poll saying they would have voted for Castle, 42% for Coons, and 12% saying they wouldn't have voted.

22 posted on 12/28/2010 3:06:00 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Moseley

Once anybody with any ties to the GOP started attacking Christine, it was all over for her. The GOP attacking the GOP helps the Democrats, ALWAYS, and it creates a ton of political damage towards the entire GOP, too!


23 posted on 12/28/2010 3:10:21 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore
Once anybody with any ties to the GOP started attacking Christine, it was all over for her.

Can you assert with a straight face that attacks from the GOP leadership changed the votes of more than 16% of the electorate in Delaware?

24 posted on 12/28/2010 3:12:18 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

Incorrect math. O’Donnell held 84-16 edge with Republicans. That is a net 68%. If she had held 100-0 (impossible), the difference would be 30% x 32% = 9.6%, and she would have lost by 6.4%.

She didn’t spend her campaign cash wisely. But once Castle and Rove attacked her after the primary, O’Donnell was toast. If Castle and the Delaware establishment had backed her all the way, it would have been within 5%, either way. But they didn’t.

Analyze, and use that knowledge for the next time. In 2012, there will be a next time. Judging by housing prices recently, the economy is still in trouble. We have to be as patient and as persistent as the enemy.


25 posted on 12/28/2010 3:12:47 PM PST by bIlluminati (Don't just hope for change, work for change in 2011-2012.)
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To: Moseley

Thanks for bringing that up (about Fred Davis angle).

She still should have told him “NO EFFING WAY”.

You can have all the geniuses around you, but ultimately YOU have to make the choices.

I can’t find ANYONE who thought that was the BEST ad possible in response to the stupid accusations at that point in time.

The thing that killed me about the stupid ad was, Christine was supposed to be ‘responding’ in a serious way about “I’m not a witch”, and she’s put in a ‘dark bluish’ background, with a black dark toned hair comb - basically telling everyone “I’m no witch (but lookeeee here, don’t I look like one?).


26 posted on 12/28/2010 3:20:17 PM PST by The Bronze Titan
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To: Strategerist

That’s 44% for Castle when Castle isn’t being attacked. It’s a fairly good guess to think that Coons would’ve attacked Castle if Castle was running. Castle’s numbers would’ve dropped if he was the actual candidate.


27 posted on 12/28/2010 3:21:10 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: lakewood man; Moseley
That's what I just said about the high church crowd. We probably ought to figure out how to boost them out of the party.

No Christine is not a high church member, but Karl Rove is!

28 posted on 12/28/2010 3:26:28 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Track9

Let me start with you.

That witch ad was a HUGE mistake. It’s certainly not why she lost, but it didn’t help.

O’Donnell’s campaign manager was the fellow who managed the campaign of NY’s Scuzzifava challenger. This is a guy who needs to go looking for different kind of work.

The notion was to try and be playful with the concept, while alternatively presenting O’Donnell as somber and serious.

All if ended up doing was keeping that ridiculous witch controversy front and center and keeping O’Donnell as the stuff of folly and silliness.

I’d rate that commercial as one of the top ten dumbest things of the year 2010.


29 posted on 12/28/2010 3:40:15 PM PST by Fishtalk (Dance like nobody's watching; Sing like nobody's listening; Blog like nobody's reading.)
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To: Cicero

Christine lost for a simple reason, more Delaware voters chose her opponent.

I will remind, once again as I do endlessly, that there was, at the same time, another contender for Delaware’s one and only Representative in the House, to replace Mike Castle in fact, who was running for the Senate.

This fellow, a very serious guy who ran a great campaign, not witch commercials, LOST BY THE EXACT SAME PERCENTAGE AS O’DONNELL!

His name was Glen Urquhart and both he and O’Donnell lost by a margin of 14%.

They both lost because Newcastle county, Delaware’s largest and most populace area, has Democrats almost 3 to 1 over the more conservative Kent and Sussex downstate areas.

Wilmington is extremely liberal, filled with union types, the welfare gang almost as big as Philadelphia...nearby by the way, and an enclave of Blue Blood GOP Ruling Class that didn’t support O’Donnell. Matter of fact, it’s where Mike Castle lives.

It’s true the Blue Blood Ruling Class GOP here in Delaware actively worked AGAINST O’Donnell but I’d not argue that this alone cost O’Donnell and Urquhart the race. The only way Castle won general elections all these years is WITH a huge amount of help from the Democrats. Delaware is one weird type of state. The very first tiime I stopped at the Georgetown GOP office, the lady at the desk told me, and I quote, “Democrats/Republicans...they’re all pretty much the same.”

I’d argue that perhaps the percentage of loss would have been much lower without the Delware GOP Blue Blood Ruling Class working AGAINST O’Donnell and Urquhart but I think they would have lost without that coalition of Dems and Repubs that got Biden and Castle elected for yay these many years.

Don’t forget, please, that Delaware’s GOP Chair, the fine, fine Tom Ross, said publicly, and I quote, that “O’Donnell couldn’t win Dog catcher.”

to those of you defending this guy, I’d suggest, softly, that even if Ross didn’t like O’Donnell at the least he COULD HAVE SAID NOTHING.

For now, we’re working like the dickens to have Ross officially censured cause you can argue and type at me all night but there’s nothing right by this.

It ain’t easy cause the Dems and the Repubs...hey, not much difference.

It could be, I dunno, that Sussex county, an area to the right of Atilla the Hun, just might have to accept this.

OR, as I intend to work on next year, overhaul that Blue Blood Ruling Class GOP and then get those cooperative Dems to work together to elect a candidate WE LIKE.

I’m willing to acknowledge that we might to go a bit more moderate than an Urquhart/O’Donnell but you’ll have to torture me all night to have me buy that we should have to live with the likes of Mike Castle who voted for Cap and Trade, AGAINST the Iraq surge, FOR the Dream act, and on and on and on......do NOT tell me this and stop justifying Castle’s existance.

Sure we got Coons the communist but every day I wake and breathe the clean fresh air of Delaware cause my enemy is my enemy RIGHT UP FRONT, not the guy supposed to be on my side.

The RINOS need to buck up and admit they pushed it too far and Castle was just one casualty of a bad strategy.


30 posted on 12/28/2010 3:55:31 PM PST by Fishtalk (Dance like nobody's watching; Sing like nobody's listening; Blog like nobody's reading.)
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To: Fishtalk

Thanks. Makes a lot of sense.


31 posted on 12/28/2010 4:04:52 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Fishtalk

It’s good to hear from someone who knows what went on in DE.

It’s also important to note that the blue blood GOP ruling class is not the same thing as Karl Rove. People want to pretend that Karl Rove is super important in DE. He really isn’t. Castle and Ross and the blue bloods, country club Republicans, are important. 31% of the voters who had a favorable opinion of Mitt Romney voted for Coons. Only 9% of the voters who had a favorable opinion of Sarah Palin voted for Coons.

Good post, thanks.


32 posted on 12/28/2010 4:14:45 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: Cicero

So her 17 point beating was because of Rove and the Republican party, even though Democrats outnumber Republicans by 17%?

She might have lost 3-4 points from Rove and the Republican party, but the VAST majority of her loss was from being Christine O’Donnell...


33 posted on 12/28/2010 4:14:53 PM PST by FortunesPortend
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To: Strategerist

I don’t believe the exit polls or the Delaware people than answered that way; I don’t believe their “what if” answer reflects what they would have done in the real world.

Coons was the “real deal”, Castle was the pretender who got-along to get-along (and win Dim votes) and O’Donnell was the outsider.

I don’t think the REAL majority vote was ever anyone’s but Coons.


34 posted on 12/28/2010 4:20:00 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Fishtalk
Let me start with you.

A good place to start. The last time I heard that I was in Texas. I like it.

35 posted on 12/28/2010 5:40:52 PM PST by Track9 (Make War!!)
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To: Track9
Meet the idiot who created the "I'm not a witch ad"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_on4kY_qlOU
36 posted on 12/28/2010 5:43:29 PM PST by Moseley (http://www.MeetChristineODonnell.com)
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To: Fishtalk
FISHTALK:

First, have you seen?

www.FireTomRoss.com

Second, remember that Christine O'Donnell ran on a fiscal conservative / tea party platform. She did not talk about social issues in her campaign. The Democrats wanted to portray her as being only about social issues, and the news media helped her with that. But she ran as a fiscal conservative candidate.
37 posted on 12/28/2010 5:46:46 PM PST by Moseley (http://www.MeetChristineODonnell.com)
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To: muawiyah

You keep posting that stuff about the high church, do you have a Protestant/Catholic vote breakdown for Delaware?


38 posted on 12/28/2010 5:48:31 PM PST by ansel12 (Spock faces two Mitt Romneys, his Phaser in hand ! Spock, I'm the real Mitt. Elect me!)
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To: ansel12
High church refers to NON CATHOLIC but they ain't real Protestants either!

Think of certain classes of Lutherans and Epi-Scopals.

I'm being very careful in my use of this term since it does not ever apply to Catholics of any kind ~ just usually the guys who look down their noses at "emotional" folks.

Karl Rove is pretty typical of the bunch though you can actually find them even in groups like the Reverend Wright's type of Church of Christ. In fact Obama's wife was a Queen Bee over there, and if she was in almost any sort of church she'd try that trick anyway ~ probably most effectively as an Epi-Scopal.

The High Church folks are a penance Protestants pay for not being particular enough about the quality of the order of the service.

39 posted on 12/28/2010 6:03:44 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

My point was that you keep posting about them and their vote in Delaware, I would like to see the numbers of the Protestant/Catholic vote in Delaware that you are basing the claims on, that you keep posting.


40 posted on 12/28/2010 6:08:33 PM PST by ansel12 (Spock faces two Mitt Romneys, his Phaser in hand ! Spock, I'm the real Mitt. Elect me!)
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To: ansel12
It only takes a few ~ they have their followers.

Good grief, 18% of the 30% Republican cohort in Delaware would be 6% of the total population ~ and Delaware had 123,025 Republican voters show up in November.

If Epi-Scopals and "progressive Lutherans" are to be estimated at 6% that'd been about 7500 more Republican voters, assuming these two traditions do ordinarily provide lots of Republican voters (due to their economic class more than anything else).

With those bodies having about 19,000 reported members in Delaware, and maybe 40% of them being adult voters ~ with some interest in politics, that'd be 7200 voting members, you find that the number of Republicans who sat out the vote or voted for Coons is pretty much equal to the number of probable Republican voters that can be found in the suspect congregations.

So, yeah, http://www.TheArda.com/ has enough information to come up with numbers to match my estimate of what happened.

41 posted on 12/28/2010 6:43:45 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: ansel12
I do believe you missed the point. I made NO estimation whatsoever of what Catholics did. Delaware is probably pretty much the same as the nationwide picture with active practicing Catholics tending to vote Republican most of the time irrespective of who the candidate is, and less devout Catholics tending to vote for the Democrats.

Isn't that what you'd guess to be the case?

This was a real Protestant versus not-quite real Protestant dispute, and the not-quite real Protestants showed their a---- and voted for the Commie.

(BTW, that's a relative values thing)

42 posted on 12/28/2010 6:47:31 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

So you don’t have any facts about the vote in Delaware and how it broke down by Protestant/Catholic, much less by each denomination.


43 posted on 12/28/2010 6:48:34 PM PST by ansel12 (Spock faces two Mitt Romneys, his Phaser in hand ! Spock, I'm the real Mitt. Elect me!)
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To: Moseley

A welfare check is the best way way to motovate a Democrat. That or let them believe they are stealing something.


44 posted on 12/28/2010 6:52:33 PM PST by sport
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To: marron
consider Delaware to be a win

That is the bottom line. The defeat of Castle has huge implications & it was absolutely required if conservatives are to take the lead.

45 posted on 12/28/2010 6:55:31 PM PST by outofstyle (Down All the Days)
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To: ansel12
I just gave you the details on the combined Lutheran/Episcopal vote ~ based on a rational analysis. The Republicans who walked away from Christine O'Donnell can be accounted for by looking at the church census data (which may be found at that site I referenced).

Now, do you have a better explanation for why we had that many people just walk away?

Look, we've been finding this over and over in election after election. There are people who are members of a certain category of MainLine churches who are TOTALLY intolerant of holy rollers and fundamentalists. You can count on the Mainliners to walk away from them.

It's like setting a clock.

Now, why do you want numbers on Catholic voters? They weren't a problem that anyone could tell. Karl Rove's continued attacks suggests he was hearing all about it from the boys at church.

BTW, looking at Delaware's church census by denomination it wasn't the Methodists or the Baptists who walked away from her ~ she was, BTW, a formerly lapsed Catholic who has been back attending Catholic services for quite some time. Used to be your basic Baptist or Methodist wouldn't vote for a Catholic ~ but not they do ~ probably because so many Catholic candidates are Republican!

46 posted on 12/28/2010 6:56:31 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

When you find the facts rather than your speculation then I will be interested, since you have been repeatedly posting it, I just assumed that you had the actual voting breakdown.


47 posted on 12/28/2010 6:59:17 PM PST by ansel12 (Spock faces two Mitt Romneys, his Phaser in hand ! Spock, I'm the real Mitt. Elect me!)
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To: Moseley

When Eliot Spitzer starts defending you, it ought to tell you you’ve made a BIG mistake. He starts right off making excuses for himself. I didn’t realize the guy was such a wuss. I sure hope COD learned some things during her run. I hope we see her again.. but a lot shrewder and ready to fight.


48 posted on 12/28/2010 7:09:19 PM PST by Track9 (Make War!!)
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To: ansel12
Finding the limits of something using partial data is a sound method for proving or disproving something that is sensitive to that limit.

If you can't follow it don't worry about it. It's an absolutely vital method in political analysis.

I just demonstrated that the Republican party in Delaware can no longer trust Lutherans (ELCA) and Epi-Scopals to vote Republican as they have done traditionally since the advent of the Civil War. This is a serious problem since these two communities account for a major part of the country club Republicans who run and pay for party operations.

I doubt Republicans will win another statewide race in Delaware in this century (as long as those guys continue to play a part). The TEA Party probably ought to plan on taking over the whole operation while they're at it. Just clear those guys out of the operation.

49 posted on 12/28/2010 7:09:22 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

You haven’t demonstrated anything except your ability to speculate, and then get hung up on it as meaningful.


50 posted on 12/28/2010 7:33:32 PM PST by ansel12 (Spock faces two Mitt Romneys, his Phaser in hand ! Spock, I'm the real Mitt. Elect me!)
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