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EPA Messes With Perry's Texas
Investor's Business DaIly ^ | December 28, 2010 | IBD Staff

Posted on 12/28/2010 7:21:01 PM PST by raptor22

Regulation: The federal agency declares Texas unfit to regulate its own greenhouse gas emissions and seizes control of the permitting process. Jobs, states' rights and the 2012 presidential election are all involved.

While most of America was unwrapping their Christmas presents, Texas Gov. Rick Perry was staring at a lump of coal the Environmental Protection Agency put in his state's stocking.

Actually, it wasn't a lump of coal — that causes global warming. And Santa won't be coming down any Texas chimney unless he checks with the EPA first.

Two days before Christmas, EPA Regional Administrator Al Armendariz, in a letter to industry, said the agency was taking permitting authority over refineries, power plants and cement facilities in Texas away from the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality (TCEQ) as of Jan. 2, 2011.

Happy New Year!

The EPA's new rules — continuing an Obama administration pattern of using regulations to circumvent the will of the people in implementing what it cannot get through Congress, such as cap-and-trade — were issued after the U.S. Supreme Court said it had the authority to regulate carbon dioxide, the basis of all life on the planet and what we exhale, as a pollutant under the Clean Air Act.

Texas was not amused and is the only state to refuse to implement the rules, filing suit against the EPA.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: agenda; americainperil; bho44; carbondioxide; cleanairact; co2; coal; energy; environment; epa; globalwarming; obama; perry; pollution; rickperry; statesrights; texas; tx

1 posted on 12/28/2010 7:21:08 PM PST by raptor22
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To: raptor22

Texans will love that.


2 posted on 12/28/2010 7:23:00 PM PST by Cisco Nix (Real Conservatives stay sober and focused)
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To: steelyourfaith; Nachum; markomalley; Carlucci; grey_whiskers; meyer; WL-law; Para-Ord.45; ...

Ping


3 posted on 12/28/2010 7:25:37 PM PST by raptor22 (The truth will set us free)
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To: raptor22

Stupid EPA. Very bad mojo.

Tip of the coming iceberg that SS Obozo is about to contact.


4 posted on 12/28/2010 7:26:28 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: raptor22

Destroy dictatorships like the EPA.

Pray for the Tea Congress


5 posted on 12/28/2010 7:28:31 PM PST by bray (Sarah Palin will destroy the Repub Party, hopefully!)
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To: raptor22; enough_idiocy; meyer; Normandy; Whenifhow; TenthAmendmentChampion; Clive; scripter; ...
Thanx raptor22 !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

6 posted on 12/28/2010 7:29:53 PM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: raptor22

Round up all the governemnt shit and send ‘em packing and don’t let ‘em back in!


7 posted on 12/28/2010 7:30:24 PM PST by 95B30 ( The Professional Left: "Their morals are crooked, their logic is flawed, their honor is stolen)
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To: raptor22

I’ll give Oh one thing. He’s unnaturally capable of making stupidity look like doubling down.


8 posted on 12/28/2010 7:32:32 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott would be a far better 2012 candidate than Rick Perry.


9 posted on 12/28/2010 7:37:03 PM PST by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" - on amazon.com)
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To: tbw2

Yeah, Perry’s doing some good down there, but every time I hear him speak I get this little voice in the back of my head “opportunistic RINO...opportunistic RINO...opportunistic RINO...”


10 posted on 12/28/2010 7:38:54 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: raptor22

Texas Rangers can arrest the EPA boneheads, escort them to the airport, and send them tarred and feathered back to the beltway. Chain their offices shut under armed guard. We don need no stinkin’ EPA.


11 posted on 12/28/2010 7:42:32 PM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: raptor22

An interesting next move might be to evict the occupants of 1445 Ross Avenue, Dallas, Texas.

Treason against the citizenry of Texas and attendant violations of the Texas Constitution would draw a sharp line in the sand.


12 posted on 12/28/2010 7:44:02 PM PST by One Name
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To: raptor22
And there's basically nothing Texas can do to stop the EPA. The SCOTUS has already sided with the EPA regulating CO2 which basically means that Texas will bend over and take it.

How to stop the EPA? Defunding is a non-starter as congress does not have the will to do such a thing, but I suppose miracles can happen. However, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a Republican controlled House to ride to the rescue as the odds on that happening are slim to none, IMO.

We can complain all we want, but this administration is doing an end run around the legislature and will impose its will upon us and there isn't anything we can/will do about it but whine as far as I can see. This administration knows it will get away with this sh!t because they understand that there are not enough people in this country ready, willing and able to stand up for what's right.

13 posted on 12/28/2010 7:51:30 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Still Thinking

I get the same feeling from him, but I held my nose and voted for him anyway.


14 posted on 12/28/2010 8:12:23 PM PST by Farnsworth
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To: FlyingEagle

I can support that.

I would LOVE to see that happen just to see what Oshitbag would say


15 posted on 12/28/2010 8:12:28 PM PST by Farnsworth
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To: Pox

It might be futile, but I’d rather put up a fight than just roll over.


16 posted on 12/28/2010 8:12:34 PM PST by Farnsworth
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To: Farnsworth

There will be no “fight”, and we will do nothing more than roll over and take it, IMO.


17 posted on 12/28/2010 8:18:08 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: FlyingEagle

I would love to see some state stand up to EPA, et al like that. I wonder how such an insurrection would pan out. Would Washington deploy troops to TX to quell the insurrection? Would they send a battalion of lawyers? Or tanks and troops?


18 posted on 12/28/2010 8:19:15 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: raptor22

Take the EPA’s money away,that is the only thing they understand.


19 posted on 12/28/2010 8:23:16 PM PST by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: Pox
This administration knows it will get away with this sh!t because they understand that there are not enough people in this country ready, willing and able to stand up for what's right.

And how many people do you think it would take? Keep in mind that no more than 20,000 determined Iraqi insurgents kept over 160,000 US soldiers occupied for several years. You would not have a hard time at all finding 20,000 pissed-off and well-armed Texans, and I think you'd have a very hard time finding 160,000 US soldiers willing to fight in a civil war under the command of Barack H. Obama.
20 posted on 12/28/2010 8:32:37 PM PST by PBinTX
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To: raptor22

Check out the groups he links on his website. What a group:
............
Downwinders at Risk

Sierra Club - Lone Star Chapter

Public Citizen (Texas)

Environmental Defense Fund

Friends of the Hudson

WildEarth Guardians


21 posted on 12/28/2010 8:34:41 PM PST by Marty62 (Marty 60)
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To: Pox

“We can complain all we want, but this administration is doing an end run around the legislature and will impose its will upon us and there isn’t anything we can/will do about it but whine as far as I can see. This administration knows it will get away with this sh!t because they understand that there are not enough people in this country ready, willing and able to stand up for what’s right. “

Well, I guess that means that the other side has won, doesn’t it?

If peaceful efforts to restore the balance are fruitless, what happens next?


22 posted on 12/28/2010 8:37:45 PM PST by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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To: Farnsworth

I hear ya. The whole country went through it two years ago with Juan “Lettuce” McShame.


23 posted on 12/28/2010 8:46:01 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Pox

Just ignore them. Keep issuing permits and don’t recognize their claim that they’ve taken over. The feds will get pissed and stop sending TX federal grants. TX then has all the employers in the state remit monthly or quarterly tax payments directly to them instead of to the feds. They then pre-withhold the federal grant money they’re entitled to and remit the balance to the Beltway Bloodsuckers.


24 posted on 12/28/2010 8:49:57 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Pox

Come on now. Nobama is still running around the dem Congress, they let him beacuse like a lot of today’s parents, “its someone else’s responsibility”. The new much more Conservative GOP House isn’t seated yet, so don’t git your drawers in a wad with WHAT IFs.


25 posted on 12/28/2010 9:04:31 PM PST by dusttoyou ("Progressives" are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: raptor22

Mandates by UNaccountable UNelected bureaucrats? Tactics of Totalitarians.

Defund, dismantle, destroy the EPA.

Life, liberty and the pursuit and destruction of totalitarians.


26 posted on 12/28/2010 9:11:13 PM PST by PGalt
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To: dusttoyou
I wouldn't suggest holding your breath waiting for the Republican led House to come to the rescue.

In case you haven't noticed, it's now well beyond “What If” and into the realm of facts as of next week.

What are YOU prepared to do about it?

27 posted on 12/28/2010 9:16:30 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: raptor22

I think we are going to have to see Obammy’s original birth certificate and have a court decide the meaning of “natural born” leading up to the next election. Don’t mess with Texas...or something of that sort, comrade.


28 posted on 12/28/2010 9:22:36 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Marty62
Check out the groups he links on his website. What a group:

............ Downwinders at Risk

Sierra Club - Lone Star Chapter

Public Citizen (Texas)

Environmental Defense Fund

Friends of the Hudson

WildEarth Guardians

Scum, all of 'em.

29 posted on 12/28/2010 9:24:19 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden the Sierra Club surely would have.)
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To: raptor22; All

Texas could always shut down power plants providing electricity out of state. That will curb their CO2, and cause brown outs all over the west and central USA.

What America needs is a three week blackout. A small reminder of the nice life we live and what it takes to keep providing it.


30 posted on 12/28/2010 9:27:48 PM PST by Martel1971
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To: raptor22

Perry should tell the EPA the same thing he told that reporter.... Adios Mofo.


31 posted on 12/28/2010 10:01:36 PM PST by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: tbw2
My choice: Jerry Patterson (TX Land Commissioner)... he's a bad a$$, former Marine fighter pilot, and he loves guns.

Plus he bleeds maroon (a Texas Aggie).

32 posted on 12/28/2010 10:05:12 PM PST by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: Pox

I’m not disagreeing with you, but if Abbot fights it and looses then to me that is better than shrugging our shoulders and taking it.

I agree it’s pretty much hopeless since the SCOTUS ruled CO2 is a toxin.


33 posted on 12/28/2010 10:33:32 PM PST by Farnsworth
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To: Pox
And there's basically nothing Texas can do to stop the EPA. The SCOTUS has already sided with the EPA regulating CO2 which basically means that Texas will bend over and take it.

Bull. Texas can simply not enforce the policy for industry in Texas.

What can the EPA do? They have no enforcement arm, no bodies that can enter industry and forceably compel someone to do something.

And if Texas ignores the EPA regulations, that's what it'll take to make it happen.

Sure, the EPA can slap fines onto the state of Texas, but again, if Texas doesn't pay... how will they collect the fine without someone to forceably compel them to?

In the end, the only way the EPA can enforce this should Texas disregard it... is through brute force. The US military would have to go in and physically force the people in question to comply.

And I would point out that Texas has a state military, not militia, not the National Guard... but a functional state military. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_State_Guard

34 posted on 12/29/2010 3:15:12 AM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: tbw2

Amen to that comment. He is nothing but a prim a dona! Guess will see what he is made of now. I think Greg Abbott should be our governor too. Texas SECEDE!!!!


35 posted on 12/29/2010 5:32:08 AM PST by Tru2Texas
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To: Martel1971
I thought the argument was CO2 shouldn't be classified as a pollutant.

And as Perry says, "...action is being taken to protect the Texas economy and the jobs that go with it, as well as defend Texas' freedom to continue our successful environmental strategies free from federal overreach."

As gogogodzilla points out "What can the EPA do? They have no enforcement arm".

I'd be happy with a 2 year harassment campaign, ignoring the EPA, multiple court fights, unofficially causing power outages in their offices, and just slowing their progress using every trick in the book.

36 posted on 12/29/2010 7:18:04 AM PST by WhoisAlanGreenspan?
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To: gogogodzilla

As Stalin said about the Vatican... The EPA, how many divisions do they have?


37 posted on 12/29/2010 7:28:22 AM PST by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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To: gogogodzilla

Tough talk, but will Texas actually follow through? I highly doubt it, and at this point there doesn’t seem to be any action outside the judicial front that will be deployed by the state of Texas.

You are posting wishful thinking. In the end, Texas is taking it and they don’t seem to be prepared to do much else other than whine about it, IMO.


38 posted on 12/29/2010 8:41:24 AM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: raptor22

Perry and the incoming Texas Legislature super majority should kick the EPA and Obammie out of Texas - refuse to allow them in the state telling them they have no authority here.


39 posted on 12/29/2010 8:51:16 AM PST by texgal (end no-fault divorce laws return DUE PROCESS & EQUAL PROTECTION to ALL citizens))
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To: raptor22

The EPA and the Obama Administration are begging for $5 or $6 gasoline. This only helps middle eastern oil interests and further destroys the US economy. Texas will do what it can to stave off these attacks from the evil empire but at best it will be a delaying action. O’Bozo and his dark lords need to be removed forthwith.


40 posted on 12/29/2010 9:01:57 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: texgal

Does Texas have a super majority in both houses or just the House?


41 posted on 12/29/2010 9:06:03 AM PST by deport
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To: deport

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43 posted on 12/29/2010 12:54:57 PM PST by texgal (end no-fault divorce laws return DUE PROCESS & EQUAL PROTECTION to ALL citizens))
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To: Cisco Nix
Texans will love defy that.

Corrected your spelling.

44 posted on 12/29/2010 6:25:56 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.8)
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To: Pox

I hate to hear the whining of cowardly old farts who know they are too hesitant and mentally infirm to survive the next civil war when it comes.


45 posted on 12/29/2010 6:30:26 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.8)
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?

I’d be happy with a 2 year harassment campaign, ignoring the EPA, multiple court fights, unofficially causing power outages in their offices, and just slowing their progress using every trick in the book.


Yes.

I’m curious, does anybody know the relationship between Perry and Abbott? Is it collegial, friendly, allies or what?


46 posted on 12/29/2010 7:05:40 PM PST by txhurl (This Is Not America.)
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To: MrEdd
Don't know if I'll survive it, but I will certainly not be on my knees when my time comes, and I will certainly be taking several “enemies” with me.

I'm prepared, physically and mentally, for another civil war. I took an oath that I'm still prepared to uphold and I'm determined to do whatever it takes to help insure the survival of this country as the founding fathers intended. The marxists can eat shiite and die, and if push comes to shove, I will be more than eager to help expedite their journey into eternity.

47 posted on 12/29/2010 7:13:02 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Pox
And there's basically nothing Texas can do to stop the EPA.

There's a difference between what will be done and what can be done.

And you wrote that there wasn't anything Texas could do about it, which is bull. As to whether Texas *WILL* do anything about it... I dunno. It's probable that they won't do anything.

48 posted on 12/30/2010 4:25:12 AM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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