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To: raptor22
And there's basically nothing Texas can do to stop the EPA. The SCOTUS has already sided with the EPA regulating CO2 which basically means that Texas will bend over and take it.

How to stop the EPA? Defunding is a non-starter as congress does not have the will to do such a thing, but I suppose miracles can happen. However, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a Republican controlled House to ride to the rescue as the odds on that happening are slim to none, IMO.

We can complain all we want, but this administration is doing an end run around the legislature and will impose its will upon us and there isn't anything we can/will do about it but whine as far as I can see. This administration knows it will get away with this sh!t because they understand that there are not enough people in this country ready, willing and able to stand up for what's right.

13 posted on 12/28/2010 7:51:30 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Pox

It might be futile, but I’d rather put up a fight than just roll over.


16 posted on 12/28/2010 8:12:34 PM PST by Farnsworth
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To: Pox
This administration knows it will get away with this sh!t because they understand that there are not enough people in this country ready, willing and able to stand up for what's right.

And how many people do you think it would take? Keep in mind that no more than 20,000 determined Iraqi insurgents kept over 160,000 US soldiers occupied for several years. You would not have a hard time at all finding 20,000 pissed-off and well-armed Texans, and I think you'd have a very hard time finding 160,000 US soldiers willing to fight in a civil war under the command of Barack H. Obama.
20 posted on 12/28/2010 8:32:37 PM PST by PBinTX
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To: Pox

“We can complain all we want, but this administration is doing an end run around the legislature and will impose its will upon us and there isn’t anything we can/will do about it but whine as far as I can see. This administration knows it will get away with this sh!t because they understand that there are not enough people in this country ready, willing and able to stand up for what’s right. “

Well, I guess that means that the other side has won, doesn’t it?

If peaceful efforts to restore the balance are fruitless, what happens next?


22 posted on 12/28/2010 8:37:45 PM PST by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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To: Pox

Just ignore them. Keep issuing permits and don’t recognize their claim that they’ve taken over. The feds will get pissed and stop sending TX federal grants. TX then has all the employers in the state remit monthly or quarterly tax payments directly to them instead of to the feds. They then pre-withhold the federal grant money they’re entitled to and remit the balance to the Beltway Bloodsuckers.


24 posted on 12/28/2010 8:49:57 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Pox

Come on now. Nobama is still running around the dem Congress, they let him beacuse like a lot of today’s parents, “its someone else’s responsibility”. The new much more Conservative GOP House isn’t seated yet, so don’t git your drawers in a wad with WHAT IFs.


25 posted on 12/28/2010 9:04:31 PM PST by dusttoyou ("Progressives" are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: Pox
And there's basically nothing Texas can do to stop the EPA. The SCOTUS has already sided with the EPA regulating CO2 which basically means that Texas will bend over and take it.

Bull. Texas can simply not enforce the policy for industry in Texas.

What can the EPA do? They have no enforcement arm, no bodies that can enter industry and forceably compel someone to do something.

And if Texas ignores the EPA regulations, that's what it'll take to make it happen.

Sure, the EPA can slap fines onto the state of Texas, but again, if Texas doesn't pay... how will they collect the fine without someone to forceably compel them to?

In the end, the only way the EPA can enforce this should Texas disregard it... is through brute force. The US military would have to go in and physically force the people in question to comply.

And I would point out that Texas has a state military, not militia, not the National Guard... but a functional state military. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_State_Guard

34 posted on 12/29/2010 3:15:12 AM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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