Skip to comments.UPDATE 2-Man with bullet parts arrested at Miami airport
Posted on 12/28/2010 8:56:48 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
Law enforcement officials said they did not believe the incident had any links to terrorism. The FBI described the man as a 37-year-old nationalized U.S. citizen traveling en route to Jamaica. Authorities did not specify his previous nationality.
Authorities detained the man after a baggage handler reported a small explosion while unloading luggage from an American Airlines (AMR.N) flight that arrived in Miami from Boston.
FBI spokesman Mark Leverock said the man's luggage contained hundreds of bullet primers -- a key component of bullet cartridges.
(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...
No name yet.
Hundreds of Primers? Wow, that’s like two dollars worth.
Last year Christmas the reports were a passenger set off some fire crackers while over Detroit.
The press could not get the answers from the fedgov.
Passengers on the plane broke the story of the underwear bombers’ attempt.
“Authorities did not specify his previous nationality.”
hmmmmm, must not be Jamaican or Amish....that leaves...
exactly, for something that is sold in boxes of 1,000 and 5,000 its not very much.
sounds like the media spin when police arrest someone with “an arsenal and thousands of rounds of ammo” when its someone with a two .22 rifles and 3 of the walmart 550 round $8 boxes.
And that anything over that is in excess.
Authorities did not specify his previous nationality.
hmmmmm, must not be Jamaican or Amish....that leaves...
“Wow, thats like two dollars worth.”
You can take ammo in luggage, but not primers, percussion caps, or the like.
This guy made a mistake, fer shur!
It does not matter how many at this point. He had “some” and “some” went POP!
Of course that is what I was thinking, do you think I am a Racist......sulking disturbed....whimpering as I scamper away
Is this some kind of code?
Don’t you have to question how gently the baggage handler handled the baggage to cause a primer to detonate. Were the primers packaged or loosly thrown in a can or box?
Yes - We will soon be hearing stories of robotic squids destroying Beijing...
No, it was update 2. Followed update 1.
More info added by reuters.
No code, just the media once again displaying their abysmal ignorance of firearms and ammunition issues. And, of course, their all-too-predictable tendancy to go in heat at the mere mention of guns and ammunition.
I wondered too. You usually must work to get a primer to go off.
Even ramp rats, I thought previously, could not get that kind of force.
Aside- I knew a guy who made bullet clocks for competition awards. Typically a circle of .38 shells with undimpled primers and a clock movement from Micheal’s or the like on a nice stained wooden plaque. He took .38 shells, cleaned them up, and pressed in “inerted” primers. I asked him about his “inerting” process, and he said he put the primers in a 6” Griswold frying pan, put a “spatter screen” over it, and heated them on a gas stove until they popped! I never felt comfortable eating burgers over there unless they came off the grille...
I can’t think of a method of accidentally igniting a primer in a bag... If UPS is able to handle 5000 in a box,hundreds in a bag should not be an issue. The accidental ignition story stinks like a search for drugs that came up with primers.
Out to paint the town red, and look what trouble he got into!
Don’t bite down on the pepper-corns
Bullet primers. LOL.
How does that work?
Very impressive, I have never seen such a multiple post!
Wow, it really liked that post. Sorry for the multiple.
The devil made him do it.
I’m just talented that way. Err, really don’t know how that happened.
Things are bound to go badly when you answer to satan.
Yeah, I read that “bullet primers” nonsense too.
That is like saying “tire lugnuts.”
It is easier to spray them with WD-40 and let them soak, if you want to make them inert.
lol That would be my approach. But heating them up until POP is like, well, Ripley saying, Nuke them from orbit, then you can be sure!
The writer clearly does not understand much, if anything, about ammunition. The bullet is that little thing that flies through the air towards its intended resting place. Primers are those little things that react to a blow from a firearm firing pin and ignite the propellant powder contained within the shellcase. The whole assembly is called a cartridge. Multiple cartridges are known as ammunition.
A bullet is to a cartridge as flour is to bread as cement is to concrete, etceteras. When will they ever learn?
I have yet to see a headline that accurately describes what was found. Ammunition component maybe?
I have yet to see what the F888 happened.
An aerosol can explodes, wait, it was bullets, wait, it was primers.
And the suspect is now still vague.
Reminds me of last years Christmas firework display over Detroit.
Nobody could report anything that was accurate until the passengers of the plane started talking.
This time, we have no passengers. Only the baggage handlers, and their handlers.
And still no name of the “person of interest” who is not American, maybe.
Not really. Static electricity can ignite primers, as well as percussion and heat. Primers are not as clean as they appear. Minute amounts of the priming mix can end up on the primer exteriors during manufacture. In addition, tiny particles of priming mix 'dust' can fall from primers and accumulate in the bottom of a bulk container. Very slight movement can then ignite the primer mix and a chain reaction within the other primers can result.
Primers should never be removed from their original grid-oriented containers and stored in any other bulk container. Primer feed tubes on ammunition reloading equipment are the only exception.
“This time, we have no passengers. Only the baggage handlers, and their handlers.”
And the handlers may or may not be American, perhaps... oh, well, you know...
I’m curious, where is the primer on a rim fire cartridge. I know the difference between them, but not sure how the rim fire works, despite the fact I grew up firing thousands of them on the ranch as a kid.
So once again our multi-billion-dollar citizen groping brigade has caught... someone with no links to terrorism. As usual.
Have any of these bozos ever caught an actual terrorist? It seems to me that those guys invariably get through our sophisticated "security" and are either subdued by passengers while attempting to light their shoes, or they burn off their wee-wees while trying to explode their underwear.
Oh, but I forget. Liberal "security" isn't really about actual security, it's about making people feeeeeeeeel "more secure."
I guess someone decided that irradiation and sexual assault by government officials imparts a comforting sense of safety to the typical American.
What the heck is a "nationalized" citizen? Do they mean "naturalized," perhaps? Or is the government now seizing citizens without their consent?
A "nationalized" citizen carrying "bullet primers," sheesh... Reuters isn't even pretending they know what they are talking about, they're just burping out mangled phrases with the intent of triggering pavlovian responses.
The unlikely becomes absurd.
For what it is worth, TSA refs and every airline policy forbids transporting primers and black powder. It is even possible that he was using an old muzzleloader trick of using shotgun shells (which are legal to transport with declaration) to hide his primers. But this whole story of a primer going off in luggage on the ground and being heard is increadibly unlikely.
A cavalier attitude about explosives will usually lead to problems.
Ah, that makes sense! A million thanks. I’ve wondered about that for years but never came across an occasion to ask about it!
“The accidental ignition story stinks like a search for drugs that came up with primers.”
I have to agree with you.
Anyone familiar with Primers and their packaging would Tape the individual Boxes so they could not slide open and then either tape the 1000 count box as well or at least wrap up the 100 count boxes in a sock or something like that.
No way could they accidentally go off unless they were loose in the suitcase and even then I have my doubts. They would have to come out of the suitcase and be crushed in some manner.
Wish the guy luck, though. At minimum, he is in violation of 15 laws with minimum fines of $250.00 each with usual punishments of $12,000.
I don’t know about Jamaica, but some Caribbean Islands have made private ownership of firearms / ammunition illegal.