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Blizzard Strips Gun Owners of Concealed Carry Privilege(NC)
nannystateliberationfront.net ^ | 28 December, 2010 | NA

Posted on 12/29/2010 4:01:29 AM PST by marktwain

The recent blizzard that hammered North Carolina is also taking its toll on the state’s law abiding gun owners. Citizens possessing concealed carry permits who are caught packing heat during the “state of emergency” will be subject to criminal charges, per the state’s firearms law.

On Christmas Day, Lt. Governor Walter Dalton, in consultation with Governor Bev Perdue, called in the National Guard as snow covered every county in the state. Once a state of emergency is declared, concealed carry permits become null and void, and those who aren’t familiar with this bizarre stipulation in the law are subject to arrest and criminal prosecution:

It is also a misdemeanor under North Carolina law for a person to transport or possess, off his or her own premises, a dangerous weapon in an area during a declared state of emergency, or in the vicinity of a riot. N.C. Gen. Stat. § 14-288.7

Can you find any logic in North Carolina’s firearms law for stripping law abiding gun owners of their concealed carry privileges during inclement weather?


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Sounds as if the North Carolinians have work to do on this.
1 posted on 12/29/2010 4:01:32 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

A state of emergency should be absolutely when a person needs to defend their life and home from those that wish harm.

A darn stupid law worth ignoring, have to be smart and don’t get caught. Of course too many people think its time to strut around with their pimped out AR platforms like a bunch of gay crossdressers in a gayday float parade.

I think in my state of Alaska if and when a state of emergency was declared we all have to be armed and dangerous.
I know in the days right after 9/11 almost everybody was packing. When I went to work driving a concrete mixer I carried, we had no idea what could happen.


2 posted on 12/29/2010 4:07:28 AM PST by Eye of Unk (If your enemy is quick to anger, seek to irritate him. Sun Tzu, The Art of War.)
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To: marktwain

We have to defund the socialist agencies and defang the socialists themselves. Take away their government power toys. For their own safety and the safety of others.

Join a Tea Party. Get active.


3 posted on 12/29/2010 4:09:04 AM PST by samtheman
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To: marktwain

State of Emergency usually proceeds a state of anarchy and that’s precisely when you’ll need protection.


4 posted on 12/29/2010 4:10:16 AM PST by Falcon4.0
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To: marktwain

Perhaps the Mentally retarded politicians do not understand that they have nothing to fear from the law-abiding CCW group - but they do have things to fear from the armed criminal element, who don’t give two sh*ts about the law - or an innocent’s life.

Where do we find politicans who are so intellectually devoid of common sense?


5 posted on 12/29/2010 4:13:45 AM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: marktwain

After Katrina, me and some neighbors started carrying openly on our hip or via shoulder holster. While I was posting an “Armed Community - Looters Will Be Shot” sign at the entrance to our road, a Florida Trooper cruised by - he smiled and headed out to find an area that might need his protection. Mississippi didn’t consider messing with our weapons in an emergency - on the other hand, New Orleans actively confiscated weapons and we all know how safe that made them...


6 posted on 12/29/2010 4:18:59 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Eye of Unk
Indiana was smart enough to include a change in a gun law that was passed last July that denies the government the right to suspend gun rights in situations like this.

It's with out a doubt the most important part of the law.
Indiana House Bill HB1065

7 posted on 12/29/2010 4:19:55 AM PST by hans56
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To: marktwain
Once a state of emergency is declared, concealed carry permits become null and void, and those who aren’t familiar with this bizarre stipulation in the law are subject to arrest and criminal prosecution

Ahh, but the 2nd Amendment is alive and well regardless of what the state says. States rights no longer exist. We lost that war in 1865. Those attempting to prosecute at the state level for CC during a State's "state of emergency" should be brought up on Federal charges for denying a citizen's 2nd Amendment rights precisely at a time when those rights are most important for personal safety. After all, it's a Bill of RIGHTS, not a Bill of SUGGESTIONS and the State of North Carolina is still a member of the Republic and is bound by the Constitution.

8 posted on 12/29/2010 4:20:00 AM PST by Thermalseeker (The theft being perpetrated by Congress and the Fed makes Bernie Maddoff look like a pickpocket.)
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To: marktwain

Citizens possessing concealed carry permits who are caught packing heat during the “state of emergency” will be subject to criminal charges, per the state’s firearms law.

Laughing Out Loud!!!


9 posted on 12/29/2010 4:26:21 AM PST by Cisco Nix (Real Conservatives stay sober and focused)
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To: marktwain

We have a Republican legislature for the first time in over 100 years. If they can get something passed re: CC in states of emergency maybe they can get Perdue to sign it. Not holding out much hope though.


10 posted on 12/29/2010 4:26:39 AM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Hodar

screw mans law, it has no meaning no longer


11 posted on 12/29/2010 4:27:29 AM PST by SF_Redux (the scarier part about all these Marxists is, that a few of them can breed .. with the opposite sex)
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To: Hodar
Perhaps the Mentally retarded politicians do not understand that they have nothing to fear from the law-abiding CCW group - but they do have things to fear from the armed criminal element, who don’t give two sh*ts about the law - or an innocent’s life.

Ah but one of these groups votes for the mentally retarded politicians, and the other does not. The group the politicians fear is the one they seek to restrain. "Evil", "corrupt", "arrogant", and "greedy" beat out "retarded" on the list of most dominant character traits, but not by much. :(

12 posted on 12/29/2010 4:29:22 AM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: Hodar

In NC, they are generally known as ‘Democrats’ and have ruled the state since the 1890’s. Things go haywire when one political organization has power that long. It’s amazing NC isn’t Mexico, given how long one-party rule has lasted here.

Perhaps it’s because there was always a Dixiecrat minority that perhaps restrained the Progressives in the party from really doing their will.


13 posted on 12/29/2010 4:30:45 AM PST by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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To: Hodar
Perhaps the Mentally retarded politicians do not understand that they have nothing to fear from the law-abiding CCW group - but they do have things to fear from the armed criminal element, who don’t give two sh*ts about the law - or an innocent’s life.

Only criminals need fear the armed citizen.

Perhaps politicians understand better than you how much they should fear citizens bearing guns?

14 posted on 12/29/2010 4:31:02 AM PST by magslinger (Samuel Colt, feminist. Making women equal to men for over 150 years.)
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To: marktwain

At the time and place violence is most likely, the government’s solution is to disarm those least likely to instigate it, and who are most likely to stop it.


15 posted on 12/29/2010 4:37:43 AM PST by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: marktwain

It makes perfect sense to “null and void” 2nd amendment rights during a “state of emergency”.../sarc!!

This is the most idiotic thing I’ve heard—and coming from a southern state too. Then don’t conceal them, pack openly.


16 posted on 12/29/2010 4:37:50 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: marktwain
You know, we really do need to vote everyone in office out. They have "drunk the Kool Ade" and they think they are the smartest guys in the room. A curse on them all.
17 posted on 12/29/2010 4:41:27 AM PST by hadaclueonce ("Endeavor to persevere.")
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To: Hodar
Where do we find politicans who are so intellectually devoid of common sense?

In the case of NC, many of them are "enlightened" transplants from the northeast. And busybodies.

18 posted on 12/29/2010 4:42:34 AM PST by doodad
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To: marktwain

STATE OF EMERGENCY!!!!!!!

That’s the exact time that we need to be able to carry weapons, either concealed or exposed.

That is a dangerous law and is designed for only one reason...that is to be able to have the government the ability to take over the freedoms of citizens by any whim in the name of State of Emergency. To do so, the citizens must be disarmed first.


19 posted on 12/29/2010 4:43:11 AM PST by DH (The Second Amendment is the only protection for the First Amendment)
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To: Thermalseeker

gestapo police state now...sorry but even if you win one the gestapo will come back at you at a different angle.

Unless the entire police department is enrolled as oathkeepers as a requirement of employment, I wouldn’t trust the pig as far as you can kick it.

The Big Boo


20 posted on 12/29/2010 4:45:49 AM PST by The Big Boo (Lone Wolf M/C)
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To: marktwain
I am all for this law. After all, when it snows that hard, it could easily get ice collecting in your trigger area, causing the gun to spontaneously discharge.

At police, nuns, and children.

What about those snowmen that pop up after a storm? Do you want them packing?

This law makes absolute sense to me.

21 posted on 12/29/2010 4:47:39 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Hodar

“Where do we find politicans who are so intellectually devoid of common sense?”

In most legislative bodies. Usually liberal. Most started running for office in high school.


22 posted on 12/29/2010 4:56:41 AM PST by A Strict Constructionist (Oligarchy...never vote for the Ivy League candidate.)
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To: BelegStrongbow

“It’s amazing NC isn’t Mexico, given how long one-party rule has lasted here.”

From what my Aunt tells me the area around Sanford is getting pretty close.


23 posted on 12/29/2010 4:58:18 AM PST by A Strict Constructionist (Oligarchy...never vote for the Ivy League candidate.)
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To: Lazamataz

Did you catch the line....

Or in the vicinity of a riot.....etc....
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Does that interpret that “If a riot is a ‘moving force’, once it gets to your neighborhood it is unlawful for you to possess a weapon”?... Good luck on that one...These so called ‘leaders’ have turned into complete bassackwards idiots.

I am sure it is meant to mean that if a riot starts, they don’t want EVERYONE in town there for a shootout but the element they are trying to stop, doesn’t care about the law in the first place.


24 posted on 12/29/2010 5:04:30 AM PST by xrmusn ((6/98) When you are right, nobody remembers, but when you are wrong, nobody forgets.)
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To: A Strict Constructionist
The Politickians usually try to deliver the “free” goodies to the poor parasites. That insures their election and reelections.
25 posted on 12/29/2010 5:11:08 AM PST by seemoAR
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To: xrmusn

I’m waiting for these socialist gungrabbing bastards to say “on the same planet as a riot, war, or where crime exists.”


26 posted on 12/29/2010 5:12:53 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Lazamataz
When 100% ignore the law....it becomes irrelevant...kinda like immigration enforcement.
27 posted on 12/29/2010 5:17:27 AM PST by cbkaty (Never yield to force. Never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy---W Churchill)
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To: marktwain

Are Federal Dollars involved? If so, see excerpt of Stafford Act of 2007 below:

Sec. 706. Firearms Policies (42 U.S.C. 5207)*
(a) Prohibition on Confiscation of Firearms - No officer or employee of the United
States (including any member of the uniformed services), or person operating
pursuant to or under color of Federal law, or receiving Federal funds, or under
control of any Federal official, or providing services to such an officer,
(1) temporarily or permanently seize, or authorize seizure of, any firearm the
possession of which is not prohibited under Federal, State, or local law,
other than for forfeiture in compliance with Federal law or as evidence in a
criminal investigation;
(2) require registration of any firearm for which registration is not required by
Federal, State, or local law;
(3) prohibit possession of any firearm, or promulgate any rule, regulation, or
order prohibiting possession of any firearm, in any place or by any person
where such possession is not otherwise prohibited by Federal, State, or
local law; or
(4) prohibit the carrying of firearms under Federal, State, or local law, solely
because such person is operating under the direction, control, or supervision
of a Federal agency in support of relief from the major disaster or
emergency.
(b) Limitation - Nothing in this section shall be construed to prohibit any person in
subsection (a) from requiring the temporary surrender of a firearm as a
condition for entry into any mode of transportation used for rescue or
evacuation during a major disaster or emergency, provided that such
temporarily surrendered firearm is returned at the completion of such rescue or
evacuation.


28 posted on 12/29/2010 5:18:45 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" (my spelling is generally korrect!))
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To: marktwain
Genius media (including us)...Just tell everyone, why don't you? Good grief! Maybe some things are better not printed, spoken and most certainly repeated.
29 posted on 12/29/2010 5:20:09 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: cbkaty

My version....

When the rules are changed, the rules are changed.

Obama can’t exist with the changed rules


30 posted on 12/29/2010 5:25:51 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: marktwain

Does anyone know which other states have this law? I may need to adjust my “do not visit” list.


31 posted on 12/29/2010 5:30:09 AM PST by laker_dad
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To: Eye of Unk
A state of emergency should be absolutely when a person needs to defend their life and home from those that wish harm.

Exactamundo.

I live in NC and was unaware Miss Bev had declared a State of Emergency.
Guess I'm gonna get a ruler across my knuckles.

32 posted on 12/29/2010 5:30:44 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: marktwain

“law” enforcement at work during Katrina:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1Qx0cTze0M


33 posted on 12/29/2010 5:31:23 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: marktwain

Also can’t carry in a restaurant that serves alcohol, ie. Applebys, Pizza Hut, Olive Garden, etc.
Can’t carry anywhere you pay for admission, ie. movie theater.

Stupid and hopefully changed this legislature.


34 posted on 12/29/2010 5:38:56 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: broken_arrow1

Here’s the Katrina video I was looking for:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4


35 posted on 12/29/2010 5:39:51 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Eye of Unk
A state of emergency should be absolutely when a person needs to defend their life and home from those that wish harm.

Indeed, and "those that wish harm" can often be employees of the government who seem to share some sort of diplomatic immunity in such cases. A person should protect themselves against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

36 posted on 12/29/2010 5:43:19 AM PST by meyer (Obama - the Schwartz is with him.)
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To: saganite

How did NC become so liberal?


37 posted on 12/29/2010 5:48:57 AM PST by panthermom
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To: broken_arrow1
This one tells the whole story....looting at Walmart by the police? Nah, can't be..they even armed....

Looting Law Enforcers..Juz need they stuff baby.

38 posted on 12/29/2010 5:49:47 AM PST by cbkaty (Never yield to force. Never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy---W Churchill)
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To: Thermalseeker

Not only charged as individuals but also charged under RICO because they are conspiring as a group for their own benefit which is to stay in power and be paid for their illegal actions.


39 posted on 12/29/2010 5:53:33 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: marktwain
Once a state of emergency is declared, concealed carry permits become null and void...

Sure sounds upside down to me.

40 posted on 12/29/2010 5:54:36 AM PST by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: panthermom

The Dems pretty much owned the South up until the recent past and some of that legacy hangs on here. The other issue is the tri cities area which is heavily liberal.


41 posted on 12/29/2010 5:54:56 AM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: cbkaty

I have 100% ignored this stupid law since I moved to this state. The 2nd Amendment confirms that I have the right to keep and bear arms, fake “emergency” or no.


42 posted on 12/29/2010 5:54:56 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (I've giving up Facebook because of OPSEC issues.)
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To: panthermom
How did NC become so liberal?

The Democrats have controlled the NC State Legislature for 100 years. In November, the Republicans finally won control.

43 posted on 12/29/2010 6:14:08 AM PST by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: marktwain
Any guesses which national group endorsed Bev Perdue when she ran for governor?

Anyone???

The NRA of course!

44 posted on 12/29/2010 6:14:52 AM PST by Niteranger68 (I am in the party of "HELL NO"!)
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To: marktwain; All

Interesting...thanks for posting. Great thread. BTTT!


45 posted on 12/29/2010 6:20:28 AM PST by PGalt
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To: WKUHilltopper
This is the most idiotic thing I’ve heard—and coming from a southern state too.

From a Southern state is what makes it make sense. I believe the law was designed as a pretext to disarm blacks. If the colored folk get uppity, you only need to declare a state of emergency and you can take all their guns. The creators of this law would be horrified to see it applied to whites.

Our gun laws have racist origins. This is no different.

46 posted on 12/29/2010 6:23:12 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: marktwain

Just the beginning, It will happen again. I am wondering what will happen the next time?


47 posted on 12/29/2010 6:24:01 AM PST by JamesA (You don't have to be big to stand tall)
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To: Eye of Unk
"...Of course too many people think its time to strut around with their pimped out AR platforms like a bunch of gay crossdressers in a gayday float parade..."

Unk, it is very hurtful when you specifically identify me and imply I am a homosexual.

for the record I am merely sensitive, with an eye for window treatments. I like to think my AR-pimping is tastefully executed and restrained.

48 posted on 12/29/2010 6:24:48 AM PST by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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To: panthermom
How did NC become so liberal?

The lack of a "Yankees Stay Out" sign might have something to do with it. This state is infected with dependent liberal yankees and free-loading illegal Latinos.

49 posted on 12/29/2010 6:24:55 AM PST by Niteranger68 (I am in the party of "HELL NO"!)
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To: saganite

>> maybe they can get Perdue to sign it <<

Good news:

The law you want can go into effect even if Bev opposes it, because North Carolina’s governors don’t have veto power.

(NC is the only state with such a “weak governor” constitutional provision. In every one of the other 49 states, the governator can veto legislation.)


50 posted on 12/29/2010 6:33:34 AM PST by Hawthorn
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