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To: Alberta's Child
This issue is far more complex...

I'll make it a little simpler then. New England and the Southeast are both within the US. They are our people.

South Korea, China, Mexico, Peru, etc. are outside the US. They are not our people.

Our people are to get preferences by us over their people, because they are our people and no other reason is needed. That's how simple it is.

35 posted on 12/29/2010 11:36:39 AM PST by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: triumphant values
Do not blame “free trade”. Free trade is simple, trade agreements are not since they are actually the opposite of free trade. Free trade is what happens in the absence of any laws.

I favor free trade since it allows me the freedom to labor and spend how I see fit. It keeps me from being a slave to unions, government bureaucrats, and greedy rent seeking businessmen. Do you propose to tell me how to spend my money?

If a US business is not competitive you should try to discover why and not just listen to what you hear. Many of the good jobs we have lost are in capital intensive industries were labor is so small a fraction of total costs that they are a minor consideration.

Why should any company invest or stay here in the good ole’ USA? Is for the privilege of having to deal with OSHA, EPA, Trial Lawyers, Unions, IRS, US Congress, Department of Labor, FTC, FCC, FDA, ICC, USDA, Army Corp of Engineers, Homeland Security, State government, City government, County government, Federal tax (40%), State taxes (9%), local taxes (2%), property taxes, sales tax,... and I just got started. Not to mention that many of our fellow citizens are illiterate or high on drugs and could not work in an advanced factory anyway.

I will take free trade. If you want to huddle up with the idiots that brought us all of the above to tell me how to spend what is mine then try this website http://www.lovearth.net/organizationsagainstftaa.htm

36 posted on 12/29/2010 11:47:21 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: triumphant values
Right -- but that's precisely the kind of approach that has effectively eliminated much of the comparative advantage the South had over the Northeast when it came to manufacturing. The South had lower labor costs, less stringent environmental regulations, less stringent financial oversight in many respects, more lax workplace safety rules, etc. Those things began to disappear once you had Federal oversight of all these areas (think Social Security and Medicare taxes, OSHA, the EPA, etc.) that effectively narrowed the "cost gap" between different parts of the U.S.

Our people are to get preferences by us over their people, because they are our people and no other reason is needed. That's how simple it is.

I like that attitude and respect you for it, but how prevalent is it when it comes to the price that people are willing to pay for the things they buy?

41 posted on 12/29/2010 12:32:38 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: triumphant values
Our people are to get preferences by us over their people, because they are our people and no other reason is needed. That's how simple it is.

You are talking to a free trader, and to them, Free Trade™ is a religion.

52 posted on 12/29/2010 1:18:43 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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