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Viking Kitties are Bad News for Retread Concern Trolls [a righteous ZOT!]
Richmond Times-Dispatch ^ | 12-30-10 | Nathan B. Oman

Posted on 12/29/2010 11:40:27 PM PST by yort

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To: Notary Sojac
My state (West Virginia) is full of pro life liberals.

Thank you. So is my original home state of NC, as are all the states of the Bible Belt south, Appalachia, the plains states, with many such enclaves among the others of the 57 states®.

Sarah Palin and the TEA Party voters kicked butt in the 2010 midterms by keeping the message focused on "cut the taxes; cut the spending; and cut the government back to its Constitutionally legitimate functions".

81 posted on 12/30/2010 12:09:38 PM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: ansel12
Your determined liberal, anti-American, anti-conservative, anti-Christian agenda wishes, cannot change those facts.

That you surmised such from my well-reasoned reply suggests that you are either stupid (or drunk), or you are dishonest.

Either way, you're not worthy of further debate unless and until you quit drinking and get honest.

82 posted on 12/30/2010 12:18:31 PM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: Verginius Rufus

I know that Sarah was not a “Jew.” You are talking to someone who debates Rabbis on “Jewish” matters and has stumped them every time. Actually, “Jew,” or “Yehudit” was used as an epithet during the civil war between the Tribes and I would rather not use it to describe myself because I think it is a perjorative that the world at large chose to call us and Hebrews have adopted for common usage. It bothers me.
Hebrew was derived from HaIvri which means simply The People.
There is no such thing, really, as Jew-ish. Just as there is no such thing as Hebrew-ish or pregnant-ish. After Jacob, we were Israelites...but still HaIvri.
I am a kind of rebel within my religion. I don’t like the way it has been split into factions, and I don’t like the idea that “Jews” seek to defend ALL those who take the name for themselves without obedience to The Law. Reform=deform. Conservative Jews aren’t. I am a sort of stand-alone hardliner and would probably be considered a heretic.


83 posted on 12/30/2010 12:48:57 PM PST by MestaMachine (islam - Hostis hvmani generis - Enemy of the human race)
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To: taildragger

Yes. And I can point you to certain prophecies that clarify that a woman will be the one to change things, just as G-d has ALWAYS used women to bring about the most important events throughout Hebrew history. Sarah was the first, but not the last. Most of these women get short shrift in concordances and latter histories because it has always been sort of a “man’s world.” Truth is, the women, whether Sarah, Rebecca, Rachel, Bathsheba, Esther, Ruth, Naomi, Yael, Deborah, even Delilah, and on and on, were chosen for their brains and/or beauty, whereas men were chosen for their brawn. Did you know that Moses’s wife saved his very life by circumcizing his firstborn son?
In Abraham’s travels, he lied and was a coward. It was Sarah who G-d protected. That is why Hebrews are matrilineal.
I could write volumes....


84 posted on 12/30/2010 1:15:41 PM PST by MestaMachine (islam - Hostis hvmani generis - Enemy of the human race)
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To: yort
Oh, you really are a towel.
85 posted on 12/30/2010 1:19:25 PM PST by Allegra (You're a towel.)
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To: Allegra

I think “yort” might be toweling at his local bath house. He sure ain’t toweling here no more.


86 posted on 12/30/2010 1:52:15 PM PST by MestaMachine (islam - Hostis hvmani generis - Enemy of the human race)
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To: LS
King was not a communist. There has been no evidence to support that, and quite the contrary, when I began to research this for my book ‘48 Liberal Lies’ I decided it could not in any way be supported and dropped it. His world view, by 1968, was a mixture of everything from Christianity to lower-case communism to existentialism, but an agent? Nope.

OK. I actually don't know all that much about King, so I will defer to your research. I'm actually glad to hear it, to tell you the truth.
87 posted on 12/30/2010 2:16:29 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: LS

IIRC, King rejected communism and the violent protests that they desired. It was jesse jackson who tried to push King into it and King threw him out of the movement. Jackson then claimed to have seen the light and King reluctantly allowed him to come back. I will believe until my dying day that jackson had something to do with King’s death.


88 posted on 12/30/2010 3:14:03 PM PST by MestaMachine (islam - Hostis hvmani generis - Enemy of the human race)
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To: meadsjn

What I was pointing out when I posted that “Your determined liberal, anti-American, anti-conservative, anti-Christian agenda wishes, cannot change those facts.” was just that, you keep trying to spread a liberal message that is false, and the purpose is to move the GOP left and to assist the liberal goal of marginalizing conservatism by trying to first separate the most fundamental portion of it which is social conservatism and the typical American conservative voter who of course, believes in God.

You cannot pretend to be conservative, and refuse to recognize, and accept that the faithless, anti-God are overwhelmingly liberal, and the faithful, pro-God, are overwhelmingly conservative.


89 posted on 12/30/2010 3:23:42 PM PST by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: MestaMachine

Right.


90 posted on 12/30/2010 3:53:56 PM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: fr_freak

Again, let me reiterate that his personal philosophy was all over the map, including some communism (but also Gandhi-ism and Christianity) and he WAS a Republican. But no evidence has as yet linked him with any CPUSA activities.


91 posted on 12/30/2010 3:55:05 PM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: ansel12

Right. Like that good catholic pelosi, or maybe the late murderin’ teddy kennedy, or maybe john the skerry who wants his communion and he wants it now, or maybe that “orthodox jew” who walks to shul who thinks abortion is fine and just co-sponsored the repeal of DADT...or huck the beast, the evangelical pastor who got his own fat kid off a cruelty to animals charge and released a murderer to do more murder and thinks that mama michelle should control what YOUR kids eat since he onviously couldn’t control his own kids.
You have got to be freaking kidding me.


92 posted on 12/30/2010 4:28:38 PM PST by MestaMachine (islam - Hostis hvmani generis - Enemy of the human race)
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To: MestaMachine

You named individuals in a nation of hundreds of millions.

What you cannot escape is that the more religious are more conservative, and the less religious more liberal.

Atheists are vastly, overwhelmingly liberal, and regular church goers are vastly, overwhelmingly conservative, and the sliding scale applies in between.

You mentioned an individual Evangelical, but you left out that Evangelicals are the most conservative voters in America, and the backbone of conservatism, and the largest single group of conservatives, you also mentioned the most conservative portion of the Jews, the Orthodox, who probably as a group vote Republican (the best information tells us they do, or close to it), whereas the less religious Jews are over 80% liberal, your group is about the most liberal in America although you as an individual share a little conservatism with we conservatives.


93 posted on 12/30/2010 5:28:14 PM PST by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: ansel12

The whole point is that INDIVIDUALS make up groups, not the other way around. I don’t “share” Conservatism with you because YOU OR YOUR GROUP don’t own it. I am a staunch Conservative because I think for myself. YOU have posted groupthink and insist it is conservative. That is silly and dangerous.
Read your own profile page.


94 posted on 12/30/2010 5:38:39 PM PST by MestaMachine (islam - Hostis hvmani generis - Enemy of the human race)
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To: MestaMachine
You could add Tamar (Gen. 38) and Hannah to the list.

On the other side, Athaliah is not a very good role model (but what do you expect from a daughter of Ahab and Jezebel?).

95 posted on 12/30/2010 5:42:49 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: MestaMachine
Since the word Jew derives from the land/kingdom/tribe of Judah, it should be a neutral term--if it has any pejorative connotations they may be simply from the intonations given to the word by anti-Semites when they have said the word. There is no obvious alternative--"Hebrew" has Biblical overtones as if we were talking about ancient history. I thought there was some debate about the exact origin and meaning of the term--there is a similar word (Habiru or Hapiru) found in some 2nd millennium texts which may be the same word.

The word "Jew" is used in the King James translation at Ezra 4.12 (the original at that point is an Aramaic letter). I don't know Hebrew (or Aramaic) but I have the Septuagint translation which has Ioudaioi here (II Esdras 4.12 in the LXX).

In Deut. 26.5 Jacob is referred to as an Aramean (rendered as "Syrian" in the King James translation).

I don't know if there are any passages in the Bible before the exile where the people of Judah are called "Jews."

A different point--how long did tribal awareness last among those who were not of the tribe of Judah or Levites? St. Paul claims to know that he is of the tribe of Benjamin (Romans 11.1) and of course Benjamin was the one tribe which stayed with Judah when the 10 northern tribes seceded. St. Luke identifies a woman as belonging to the tribe of Asher, but how many people really knew their tribal origins in the first century of our era?

96 posted on 12/30/2010 6:10:32 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: meadsjn; MestaMachine
One interesting thing about the chart in post 80 is the last line.

People who never attend church: Bush 35% Gore 65%

The conclusion to be drawn here, students, is that were it not for the over one-third of America's atheists and agnostics who voted Republican, Al Gore would have been President.

97 posted on 12/30/2010 6:43:14 PM PST by Notary Sojac (Imagine the parade to celebrate victory in the WoT. What security measures would we need??)
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To: meadsjn; MestaMachine
One interesting thing about the chart in post 80 is the last line.

People who never attend church: Bush 35% Gore 65%

The conclusion to be drawn here, students, is that were it not for the over one-third of America's atheists and agnostics who voted Republican, Al Gore would have been President.

98 posted on 12/30/2010 6:44:02 PM PST by Notary Sojac (Imagine the parade to celebrate victory in the WoT. What security measures would we need??)
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To: MestaMachine

You do not build conservatism by being at war with conservatives, learn who conservatives are and who liberals are, and learn to be more supportive of conservatives and conservatism in general.

Being a little bit conservative isn’t enough, and when you try to promote that, then you are trying to weaken conservatism, and are promoting liberalism, and anti-Americanism.


99 posted on 12/30/2010 6:47:57 PM PST by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: yort
This account has been banned or suspended.

OK Yort, which is it?

100 posted on 12/30/2010 6:50:19 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (There's only one cure for Obamarrhea......)
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