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Excellent point about the underlying non-seriousness of the Religious Right faction.
1 posted on 12/29/2010 11:40:31 PM PST by yort
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I like Beck.


2 posted on 12/29/2010 11:45:41 PM PST by marron
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Welcome to FreeRepublic.


3 posted on 12/29/2010 11:48:08 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Judas Iscariot - the first social justice advocate. John 12:3-6)
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You just joined FR to post this crap? Move along please


4 posted on 12/29/2010 11:49:53 PM PST by Lloyd227 (Class of 1998 (let's all help the Team McCain spider monkeys decide how to moderate))
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You sign up yesterday to post this?


5 posted on 12/29/2010 11:49:53 PM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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Mr. "yort" (short for yogurt?)
Have you even read "The Five Thousand Year Leap" ? Please tell us the truth, yes or no?
6 posted on 12/29/2010 11:51:14 PM PST by Lloyd227 (Class of 1998 (let's all help the Team McCain spider monkeys decide how to moderate))
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IBTZ


7 posted on 12/29/2010 11:51:55 PM PST by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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Beck’s not my cup of tea. His hyper-emotionalism must be an acquired taste.


8 posted on 12/29/2010 11:57:30 PM PST by GunRunner (10 Years of Freeping...)
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I don't know this clown, Nathan B. Oman, but serious political people do not drag their personal religious fantasies into political discussions. It's a campaign killer for the 99% who disagree (even slightly), and no guarantee of votes from the 1% who share the exact same religious fantasy.

Conservatives are those who advocate the preservation, conservation, or restoration of our constitutional republican form of government. Not a single candidate who leads with their personal religious preference ever, ever, ever meets that test.

Religious tyranny is not conservative.
Pro-life liberalism is not conservative.
Authoritarian statism is not conservative.
Constitutional conservatism is conservative.

12 posted on 12/30/2010 12:03:11 AM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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From my memory of the book, it boils down to 28 solid ideals the founders had for keeping the country free and prosperous.

I find the article lacking any meat in it’s criticism. Beck’s OCD usually has him spinning around trying to find a direction for his thoughts, which irritates me. Especially when he goes dark after reading some obscure book. This is not one of those books.

I smell an elitist GOP hack in Oman. His resume sides toward that conclusion. If the author wants to make a point, he should have cited quotes from 5000 instead of glossing over what his overall thoughts were.


13 posted on 12/30/2010 12:03:40 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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I think Nate is a Romney-bot.


14 posted on 12/30/2010 12:05:31 AM PST by smokingfrog (Do all the talking you want, but do what I tell you.)
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Apparently Beck is good for a headline though.


15 posted on 12/30/2010 12:06:29 AM PST by americanophile
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where is the chalkboard?


16 posted on 12/30/2010 12:06:49 AM PST by woofie
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Forget debates over gay marriage; the traditional kind seems to be in free fall among those vulnerable citizens who could benefit the most from it.

This is kind of an odd sentence. I've read it several times and I'm not sure what to make of it. I'm not sure what it has to do with Beck.

17 posted on 12/30/2010 12:15:14 AM PST by marron
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BTW, welcome to FR. Try not to get ‘zotted’ straight away. Personally I find the occasional contrarian far more interesting.


18 posted on 12/30/2010 12:18:57 AM PST by americanophile
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I notice the author couldn’t include any actual quote from the book where it is said Dwight D. Eisenhower was a communist. Usually when people do that it is because they either haven’t read what they imply they have read, or have read it and are not being truthful about what they have read. Maybe the author should read the books he critiques before writing about them and then actually provide supporting quotes to make his point.


19 posted on 12/30/2010 12:21:43 AM PST by piasa
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Excellent point about the underlying non-seriousness of the Religious Right faction.

You call that an excellent point? You don't get out much, do you?

On a side note, I noticed this sentence: "It ought to be treated as a curiosity of the pre-Reagan right, a fantasy world where communist agents such as Martin Luther King Jr. and Dwight D. Eisenhower worked to undermine America.... "

One thing the nutbag Left has been successful in doing, largely due to their takeover of the media and Hollywood, is repeat, as accepted fact, that any accusations of communists infiltrating the US was always just paranoid fantasy, now discredited. Now that we see the fruits of the last 40 or 50 years of leftwing policies and propaganda, and the unbelievably drastic cultural and political changes they have wrought on this country, one would have to be a complete fool, ignorant of all 20th century US history, not to realize that those "fantasies" were, in fact, exactly correct, and the widespread disdain for those who raised the alarm, such as Joe McCarthy, are merely the natural result of that infiltration.

The fact that we have a communist like Obama in the White House, and a boatload of communists like Pelosi and Reid in Congress, with the approval of roughly half of the population, is ample evidence of communist infiltration and deconstruction of the American culture. Those things could never have occurred by force of arms 40 years ago, but have now occurred without a shot fired. McCarthy was a genius and a patriot, and Martin Luther King Jr. was probably a communist who worked to undermine America, despite whatever positive influence he may have been in terms of civil rights.
22 posted on 12/30/2010 12:31:17 AM PST by fr_freak
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Excellent point about the underlying non-seriousness of the Religious Right faction.

I don't have much use for Beck but I and many others here are "the religious right" that you are looking down your nose at.

23 posted on 12/30/2010 12:31:58 AM PST by Graybeard58
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Ummm. I call BS on you and Oman. Maybe you should elaborate in exactly who Nate Oman actually is and WHY he doesn't particularly "like" the "religious right." The man is being totally disingenuous in the article you posted.

Or was he being more disingenuous in THIS article?
Mormonism's Al Smith moment?
January 02, 2008|By Nathan B. Oman

Let us suppose that Mitt Romney does not become the next president. What will this mean for the Mormons? There about 5.7 million Latter-day Saints in America, which in a nation of more than 300 million makes us demographic chicken feed, but the question is important for what it reveals about the presidency and its relationship to American citizenship.

As a Latter-day Saint, I care deeply about whether a Mormon can be elected president. This is not because, as the anti-Mormon fringe suggests, my co-religionists and I want to impose a theocracy on the nation, but because so long as a Mormon cannot be elected president because he is Mormon.
Rather, I care because so long as a Mormon cannot be elected president because he is Mormon, I am a second-class citizen in our culture, a member of a tribe disqualified from full political participation.

______________________________________________

Maybe we should note that he seems to think religious Conservatism is just alright as long as it comes from HIS religion.

I have nothing against Mormons per se, Beck being a Mormon himself. I think this article ADDS to Beck's credibility rather than detracts from it.
So where does that place you?

For the record, I am an Orthodox Jew, and would never in a zillion years vote for anyone on the basis of religion alone like so many blacks voted for obama, or so many Mormons voted for Romney. If you ain't right, you ain't right. Period.

24 posted on 12/30/2010 12:35:22 AM PST by MestaMachine (islam - Hostis hvmani generis - Enemy of the human race)
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On the article:

"First, despite partisan triumphalism in the wake of electoral victory, voters at the center of the political spectrum hold the balance of power in American politics."

Largely true, though it continues to be a center-right nation.

"In the recent congressional elections these voters broke in favor of the Republicans, but they did so in spite of Beck's Skousen revivalism, not because of it."

Well, he presents no data from which to draw that conclusion, and instinctively it would probably be safest to say that their decisions at the polls were neither because of Beck or in spite of him, but rather irrespective of him. Obama's signature political achievent, 'Obamacare' is unpopular, unemployment is high, and the spendthrift Congress has a 13% approval rating. It had little to do with tv host Beck or even with specifically 'religious conservatism.'

"Second, and more important, Beck's neo-Skousenism is a distraction and a dead end."

On the contrary, the second point is made even less important by the irrelevance of the first.

27 posted on 12/30/2010 12:40:02 AM PST by americanophile
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It ought to be treated as a curiosity of the pre-Reagan right, a fantasy world where communist agents such as Martin Luther King Jr. and Dwight D. Eisenhower worked to undermine America....

I haven't read the book but when the first example a critic uses is made up and not from the work being criticized ... it's pretty much a lock that the critic is more full of BS than a stock yard.

28 posted on 12/30/2010 12:44:39 AM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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