Skip to comments.Marshal: Deputy who killed dog remorseful, but had to defend himself
Posted on 12/30/2010 9:30:51 AM PST by moonshinner_09
Fulton County Marshal Antonio Johnson said Thursday the deputy who shot and killed a couple's lab mix while trying to serve a lawsuit is "very remorseful" about the "very unfortunate situation," but felt he was defending himself."From talking to him, he didn't have any other choice because the dog was charging at him," Johnson told the AJC. "The dog was unattended, unleashed, in an open gravel field."
Johnson said he was still going over the report and would not identify the deputy until later Thursday. He said the incident is under investigation and the owners are free to file a complaint.
The deputy went to 439 Edgewood Ave. in Atlanta to serve a lawsuit to someone listed in unit 103, Johnson said.
"The dog came out of nowhere, aggressively," Johnson said. "He tried to step back, but the dog kept charging him. He fired two fatal shots.
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"So we now have to go to court because they shot our dog," Cullifer's girlfriend, Elizabeth Runkle, told Channel 2. Unbelieveable, the address is no longer valid, dog shot..Atypical
Agreed that the owner should be cited.
However, I just don’t understand all these stories about cops shooting dogs. Haven’t they ever heard of pepper spray?
When in doubt, shoot the dog.
When you shoot a dog, you get paid time off for ‘grief counseling’ and review of the use of your firearm.
Small (Lab) dog, no barking, no barring of teeth, no growling, just "charging". No dog biscuit either.
"Stop, or I'll shoot". To serve (summons) and protect (oneself).
Or dog treats?
Sorry, don’t buy the cops’ story.
Apparently you’ve never heard of pepper spray either.
Cops have always had to deal with dogs, but the rash of cops shooting dogs on sight is a recent phenomenon.
That's because they keep getting away with it. Unless there are consequences for their behavior, they will continue to do it.
If an animal ( yes, a dog is an animal ) comes charging at me, I do not care if it is a dog, cat, bear, deer or squirel...if I am armed, i am putting it down. The owners of said animal would then receive a lawsuit from me..i get sick and tired of irresponsible pet owners bitching when fido gets shot or run over by a car. If you cannot, or will not, control your animal, you have no right owning it, and I have every right to defend myself from it..period, end of discussion..
“Charging”. He’s using that word deliberately. They want to portray the dog as a threat. It’s why he didn’t say “running”.
Pepper spray is a bitch. Just a offhand whiff is really bad. NOw with a dog with a much more sensitive nose...?
The officer also may not have much experience around dogs. I have from my own experience never met a golden retriever that was a vicious attack dog. They are overly friendly to strangers.
I understand not wanting to get bit/attacked by someone’s dog. I’d pepper spray the dog if I felt in danger. Most sprays police would carry can shoot 20-25 feet.
A 40 lb Lab, Terrier mix. Sounds like a real hell hound to me.
If a cop can’t handle a dog like that, he has no business on the force. He’s a coward and a danger to himself and others.
And as usual, the LEO shooter is allowed to go unnamed, and the AJC lacks the journalistic cojones to do any digging on the matter.
My question is this: If there are all these dogs, and they are all so dangerous that trained police officers feel they have to shoot the dogs to protect themselves, what are we ordinary citizens supposed to be doing?
After all, we walk down these same streets, and are confronted by these same dogs. But if a dog comes running after me, I don’t just shoot them. But according to the police, we should all be carrying weapons to protect ourselves from this rash of angry, dangerous dogs.
Sad thing is, the dog might have just been happy to see him, and was running up to great him.
I’ve been attacked by dogs, even when I was a kid, and I’ve never had any trouble fending them off. Sure, I got bit in the arm a couple of times, but I didn’t have to kill the poor things.
I remember once there was a dog loose in my back yard, and the animal control people came, and they were waiting for the police to come, so I went and called the dog and grabbed the dog for her. She was all like “don’t do that, he might be dangerous”, but I figured I wasn’t going to wait for a policeman to come and shoot the thing, when I was sure the dog wasn’t looking to attack people, it was just scared.
Sometimes I see kids unattended, unleashed, in open fields, maybe we should just shoot them as well, we never know when those kids might come running up at us in a threatening manner.
I understand it as well, but again, if the police can’t defend themselves from stray dogs without shooting them, what do the police expect normal people to do? I don’t see the police saying we should all go buy guns to shoot stray dogs, but if we are supposed to run away and call the police, why can’t the police run away and get someone to handle it without killing the dog?
So is the possession of vicious dogs by petty criminals.
My wife asked a local sheriff's deputy about that. He said, 'you gotta do what you gotta do' to protect yourself.
End of discussion huh?
Do you mind if I ping you next time a cop shoots a small dog in a fenced in yard?
“end of discussion”...lol..you’re funny. Not bright, but funny.
You sound upset.
Have you ever thought about changing your screen name to "joe fonebonehead?"
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but LEO these days get a choice of being certified for mace/pepper or tazer, but very few do both.
Easy there little fella.....
>Pepper spray is a bitch. Just a offhand whiff is really bad. NOw with a dog with a much more sensitive nose...?<
Police kill pit bull after pepper spray fails
Thursday, December 28, 2006
Pittsburgh police early yesterday shot and killed a dog after they said it shook off an entire canister of pepper spray and the impact of several bricks hurled at it to get it to move away from a house.
Just before midnight on Tuesday, Officer James Goga responded to a call from a woman who lives at a house in the 1000 block of Steuben Street who said a “large pit bull” was sitting on a chair, growling and barking, next to her front door.
The 57-year-old woman said she couldn’t get past the dog to get into her house, and police said it would growl and bark at anyone who came near, refusing to move.
“The contents of one can of pepper spray was deployed on the dog,” Officer Goga reported. “This was ineffective and only caused the dog to lick its face.”
The impact of two bricks only caused the dog to growl some more.
Shortly after midnight, a special deployment unit arrived to try to remove the dog, but when officers moved in it jumped up and came at them aggressively.
Officer Goga then shot it in the chest, killing it.
Police hadn’t determined who owns the dog.
First published on December 28, 2006 at 12:00 am
A freaking labrador? He shot a labrador? I’ve never seen nor heard of a vicious lab.....and I used to work in an Animal Shelter.
There is either a detail missing, or the officer put a dog down that was as much threat as a Chihuahua.
Terrier. That could be a pit bull.
Cartman: Democrats piss me off!
Jimbo: They say we can't shoot certain animals anymore, unless they're posing an immediate threat. Therefore, before we shoot somethin', we have to say 'It's coming right for us.'
I think what they did was in the right order.
Pepper spray it first.
If it doesn’t work and it becomes a threat, then elevate the force.
The officer in the current story just blew it away, right away.
And you don’t have to be a dog expert to know a golden retriever is not a pit bull.
Sometimes you just don't have the time. I had a dog come out of nowhere at me and there weren't no time to elevate the threat if choice (1) didn't work.
One. It wasn't a golden retriever, it was a lab-terrier mix.
Two. "terrier' is most likely "pit-bull".
Though certainly not a Golden, she didn’t look like a viscous dog to me.
Video at link:
Of course. The mouth was closed in that photo.
This dog would look sweet also, only if the mouth were closed.
If you have an issue with the dog in the story, maybe a hamster is more your speed. Cowardice is a terrible thing.
Cowardice is making personal attacks behind the safety of the internet shield.
shooting an animal controlled in it’s yard is not acceptable. This animal was not controlled in it’s yard. Legit shoot.
And your answer, equating an animal with a human being, is exactly why I get on these threads. Takes someone with a very low IQ to make a comparison like that. Thanks for the laugh.
Have you ever thought about changing your name to “Animals are more important than human life”??????or are you a spokesperson for the liberal ASPCA???
typical lib response....pick out one phrase or word and then use it to demean...right out of rules for radicals...and I would rather be judges by 12 than carried by 6 ( or have to roll around in a wheelchair )
You really aren't very good at meaning what you say are you? Perhaps it's like the big talk of how you're going to shoot any animal you want if you feel threatened.
Frankly I suspect you feel scared and threatened in lots of situations: Elevators, candy counters, those short yellow buses you used to have to ride to school. Not to mention puppies and radical Islamic squirrels you mentioned that are out to rend you to bits!
Yes, I notice that on the Michael Vick threads, with that pundit saying he should have been executed.
They are just animals. But you have to throw them a bone sometimes.
It’s clear though you get my point, that it’s not JUST that police get to shoot anything that they think might be threatening them.
When I said end of discussion, it did not mean that i would allow stupidity to rule the day. i will call out an idiot whenever and wherever I see one. I am calling you out. And yes, I will shoot any animal I feel threatened by...shoot early, shoot often