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Senator John McCain's born identity (McNasty is "filled with endless rage")
Al Jazeera ^ | 2010-12-30 | Cliff Schecter

Posted on 12/30/2010 9:39:59 AM PST by rabscuttle385

What does he want? Revenge. For what? Being born.

This is the way famous gunslinger Doc Holliday answers equally famous lawman and good friend Wyatt Earp’s inquiry - in their depiction in the movie Tombstone - into why their sworn enemy, Johnny Ringo, is such a misanthrope.

Sadly, this description would be equally accurate in explaining the actions of another Arizona transplant filled with endless rage: Senator John McCain.

I first encountered the seething side of McCain when I was writing my 2008 book, The Real McCain, which was critical of him while pointing out a then-controversial fact, one no longer in dispute among those who lionised him back then. Namely, that the Led Zeppelin-groupie relationship he then enjoyed with many in the media was based on a faulty premise.

John McCain was not a maverick (which he has since admitted after long identifying with the title), but a man driven by a need to fight. To fight for his own redemption, to fight with those who dared disagree with him, and most particularly, to fight with anyone who had delivered him a perceived humiliation of any sort. Think Yosemite Sam on a bender, or Vladamir Putin in those half-naked martial arts pictures.

Sure, McCain was also motivated by the very same political expediency which drives too many politicos, as well as coveting an appearance on the Sunday morning talk circuit the way a twenty-something blonde does meeting Edward Pattinson, or marrying Hugh Hefner.

But the driving force for McCain has been pure vitriol and spite. When I first pointed out this inconvenient truth in my book, that many Republicans, including some willing to go on the record, were sure McCain was motivated by demons and not decency, I was criticised or dismissed in many quarters. Yet, it was obvious to me back then that his battles with fellow Republicans and Democrats had become personal, crusades for the eternally perturbed Abe Simpson stand-in.

I broke two stories in my book that spoke to McCain’s temperament, that he had physically assaulted a member of his own party after taunting him (Republican Representative Rick Renzi) and had called his wife a very not-safe-for-work term of non-endearment. In perhaps an emblematic McCain moment, during a policy meeting with a fellow Republican, McCain “called the guy a ‘sh—head.’ The senator demanded an apology. McCain stood up and said, ‘I apologise, but you’re still a sh—head.’”

There’s a reason the dude was nicknamed “McNasty” in high school.

So when others still saw McCain’s breaking from President Bush on taxes, healthcare, the environment and gun control in the early 2000s as a sign of “independence,” I tried to point out what I had learned: He was just doing it because he hated Bush for beating him in the primaries. And when others saw his loss to then-Senator Barack Obama and thought he’d work with Obama to display his maverickyness once Obama was sworn in, I warned that in all likelihood we’d see McCain once again do his best Judge Elihu Smails impression.

But even I couldn’t have expected how truly ridiculous he’s become. As Deputy Political Director Michael McMurray of NBC News pointed out in a tweet just before Christmas that outside of Afghanistan, “the AZ senator didn't support any major Obama WH policy in '09-'10.” In fact, it has been much worse than that.

Bush’s tax cuts for top earners, immigration reform, a nuclear arms treaty and even a military suicide prevention bill were not worthy of McCain’s support during the last two weeks. Not supporting a bill to prevent military suicides? Really? It’s almost like this particular Scrooge got a visit from the Ghost of Christmas Crazy while napping after an especially large portion of Quaker Oats.

As journalist David Corn recently pointed out, looking at McCain’s increasingly desperate attacks against repealing the Don’t Ask Don’t Tell policy of allowing gays to serve in the military only if they were as vocal as a Buddhist Monk about who they really were, “…McCain practically threw a tantrum on the Senate floor, decrying ‘this bizarro world’ and denouncing senators in favour of repeal…Looking as if steam would shoot out of his ears at any moment, McCain went on to exclaim that ending DADT would endanger ’the survival of our young men and women in the military.’"

Of course, as Corn also wrote, “Not only had McCain flip-flopped, he had become an angry crusader, seemingly full of rage at a policy initiative he once quasi-endorsed…It seemed more personal than policy -- as in he really doesn't fancy seeing a victory for President Obama, the fellow who prevented McCain from becoming BMOC.”

That is really the gist of it, and it’s at the heart of who McCain has been his entire time in Washington, whether most journalists have been willing to see it or not. He’s not a statesman, nor has he ever been. He’s a petulant bomb thrower. He’s Simon Cowell in a suit.

In fact, in a slightly alternative universe, it wouldn’t really be all that hard to imagine McCain standing on a Times Square street corner screaming at passersby that they all deserve to go to hell, or challenging random strangers to a fight to the death using sticks to determine who gets his clay marble collection.

But in this one, he was just elected to another 6-year Senate term. And that tells you a helluva lot about the predicament in which we currently find ourselves as a nation.


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But the driving force for McCain has been pure vitriol and spite.


1 posted on 12/30/2010 9:40:03 AM PST by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385

I see less and less difference between jihadis and the left. Both are irrational, self-loathing angry hate-filled useless blobs of decaying protoplasm.

Other than that, they’re really nice people.


2 posted on 12/30/2010 9:43:17 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Liberalism is against human nature. Practicing liberalism is detrimental to your mental stability.)
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To: rabscuttle385

So, what makes Linda Grahamnesty the The Huckster JUANnabies?


3 posted on 12/30/2010 9:44:21 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

the —> and the.


4 posted on 12/30/2010 9:45:01 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: mkjessup; stephenjohnbanker; Arthur Wildfire! March; DoughtyOne; exit82; Avoiding_Sulla; ...
In fact, in a slightly alternative universe, it wouldn’t really be all that hard to imagine McCain standing on a Times Square street corner screaming at passersby that they all deserve to go to hell, or challenging random strangers to a fight to the death using sticks to determine who gets his clay marble collection.

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5 posted on 12/30/2010 9:45:39 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385

McCain is a piece of garbage. I am amazed the idiots in AZ voted him in. I guess they like their pork and illegals killing Arizonians. Kyl is no better.


6 posted on 12/30/2010 9:47:10 AM PST by Frantzie (Slaves do not have freedom only the illusion of freedom & their cable TV to drool at)
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To: rabscuttle385

If you read the article, from al jazeera no less, you’ll see as much as we may despise McCain, I’m glad the article sees him behaving as an enemy of Obama.


7 posted on 12/30/2010 9:47:35 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Looking for our Sam Adams)
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To: rabscuttle385

I admire fighters. People who stand up to thugs and adversity and meet challenges head-on. But what’s admirable about a rabid dog who snaps at anything that moves?

McCain has never impressed me as principled as much as driven - driven by demons apparently.


8 posted on 12/30/2010 9:48:39 AM PST by rockrr ("I said that I was scared of you!" - pokie the pretend cowboy)
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To: rabscuttle385

McCain is OUR problem..... WHY are we posting anything from Al Jeezera


9 posted on 12/30/2010 9:48:49 AM PST by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: snippy_about_it
I’m glad the article sees him behaving as an enemy of Obama.

An enemy of convenience, perhaps.

I think everyone realizes now that McCain, like Judas, Benedict Arnold, and the other assorted treasonous bastards that litter the history books, stands for no one except himself and for his own personal pleasure and enrichment.

10 posted on 12/30/2010 9:51:31 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: Vaquero

“McCain is OUR problem..... WHY are we posting anything from Al Jeezera”

Agreed. rab displays these very problems himself. This is a new low, using an al jizera screed.

McCain is a problem. But I’ll pick him in a fight with al jizera any day.


11 posted on 12/30/2010 9:53:06 AM PST by Christian Engineer Mass (Capitol Hill operator 866-727-4894 toll free. Just say which Representative/Senator you want to spea)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass
rab displays these very problems himself.

Oh really, newbie?

12 posted on 12/30/2010 9:54:14 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385
He's Irish. They fight.

Hey, how 'bout that.

13 posted on 12/30/2010 9:55:19 AM PST by muleskinner
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To: rabscuttle385; Admin Moderator
You publish as valid a hit piece... from the left... published in Al Jazeera?

Worth a zot?

14 posted on 12/30/2010 9:59:04 AM PST by unspun (It's the Sovereignty, Stu... um... art. | We are Gulag Bound)
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To: rabscuttle385
rab displays these very problems himself.

Oh really, newbie?

Wow! What incredible wit! Yes, I can actually see my comment shriveling under the weight of intellect that you brought to bear upon it!
15 posted on 12/30/2010 10:02:03 AM PST by Christian Engineer Mass (Capitol Hill operator 866-727-4894 toll free. Just say which Representative/Senator you want to spea)
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To: rabscuttle385
But the driving force for McCain has been pure vitriol and spite.

McCain seems to despise everyone except McCain. Never once has he responded to letters while Kyl always responds nicely and even Giffords responds. McCain is totally absorbed with McCain.

16 posted on 12/30/2010 10:03:05 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: rabscuttle385; Christian Engineer Mass
Yeah he is a newbie but he is right.

but why give creedence to anything published by the ENEMY.

17 posted on 12/30/2010 10:03:19 AM PST by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: unspun; TigersEye; cripplecreek; Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson
You publish as valid a hit piece...

Exactly what is invalid about the article?

Perhaps you should re-read the hundreds of links pertaining to McCain and his temper tantrums over the years.

from the left...

Even blind, retarded squirrels find nuts on occasion.

Worth a zot?

If the Mods don't like the thread, then they may pull it. If they don't like the source, then they should probably add it to the list of automatically prohibited sources in FR's posting software.

18 posted on 12/30/2010 10:03:36 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385
Well, I have to agree with the basic premise.

But I'm all too happy if McCain's fury at Obama for beating him translates into his opposing whatever Obama does. Good. It may be for entirely the wrong reasons, but the outcome is beneficial.

As journalist David Corn recently pointed out, looking at McCain’s increasingly desperate attacks against repealing the Don’t Ask Don’t Tell policy of allowing gays to serve in the military only if they were as vocal as a Buddhist Monk about who they really were, “…McCain practically threw a tantrum on the Senate floor, decrying ‘this bizarro world’ and denouncing senators in favour of repeal…Looking as if steam would shoot out of his ears at any moment, McCain went on to exclaim that ending DADT would endanger ’the survival of our young men and women in the military.’"

Well, sorry, but the repeal of DADT, with a number of Republicans joining the gay party, was a disaster. For once, McCain had something he was entitled to be angry about.

What, he should have supported gays in the military to prove his good sense? I don't think so.

19 posted on 12/30/2010 10:06:08 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Vaquero

It’s not like we didn’t know McCain is crazy.

http://mfile.akamai.com/5020/wma/rushlimb.download.akamai.com/5020/shanklin_archives/McCain%20Mutiny.asx


20 posted on 12/30/2010 10:06:20 AM PST by Christian Engineer Mass (Capitol Hill operator 866-727-4894 toll free. Just say which Representative/Senator you want to spea)
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To: Vaquero
"McCain is OUR problem..... WHY are we posting anything from Al Jeezera..."

Much less an Al Jazeera article by an author who cites "David Corn" as a reliable authority on anything but beastiality. McCain is no arch conservative, but this is pure pus.

;-\

21 posted on 12/30/2010 10:09:40 AM PST by Gargantua (Palin ~ Bachmann 2012)
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To: unspun

I’ll take John McCain over anything that the left has to offer any day. Say what you will, but he served his country and lived through hell. I can name at least 20 Senators currently serving that are much, much worse and never bothered to serve (or lied about where they served). Say what you will, but he did what his country asked him to do and didn’t wimp out. It has been time for him to go, but that’s up to AZ and apparently they like him.


22 posted on 12/30/2010 10:15:01 AM PST by MotherRedDog
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To: rabscuttle385

Many on FR seem to increasingly believe only sources on “our” side should be posted.

This makes criticism much easier. You don’t have to point out a factual or logical flaw in the article itself, only that it is from the “wrong” side.

This is beginning to get ridiculous. If we only listen to each other, we can never learn much, and most especially we won’t become familiar with the arguments of the other side and therefore be able to more effectively refute them.

It is also an argument more widely associated with leftists. No need to refute the actual argument of a “right-winger.” Just pronounce him to be such and therefore both evil and wrong, and move on. Showed him!

I’ve even had posters claim a reference from wikipedia or Snopes is by definition unacceptable, since some material from those sites is indeed infected with liberalism. They generally don’t bother to post a more authoritative source as a refutation, just assume wiki is wrong and therefore they can continue to believe as they choose without any need to prove their point.

I will cheerfully agreed wikipedia should never be accepted as a final authority, especially on anything involving politics, but it does contain a great deal of good material and is often an excellent starting point for research.


23 posted on 12/30/2010 10:20:49 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Frantzie

he spent $21million to beat a flawed primary candidate who had about 10% of his war chest


24 posted on 12/30/2010 10:21:55 AM PST by henry_reardon
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To: muleskinner
He's Irish. They fight.

McCain is a Scottish name, not Irish. And the so-called Scots-Irish were Scottish people who moved to Ireland and then to the U.S. But they fight, too. More, probably.

25 posted on 12/30/2010 10:36:19 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Government does nothing as economically as the private sector. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Vaquero
McCain is OUR problem..... WHY are we posting anything from Al Jeezera?

About the author:

Cliff Schecter is the President of Libertas, LLC, a progressive public relations firm, the author of the 2008 bestseller The Real McCain, and a regular contributor to The Huffington Post.

It looks like the writer is just a progressive writer who's work might be picked up by various publications - not a staff writer for Al Jazeera. I expect this article could be found elsewhere.

26 posted on 12/30/2010 10:51:55 AM PST by Will88
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To: rabscuttle385

Sounds like ‘08 was really a lose-lose proposition....


27 posted on 12/30/2010 11:03:26 AM PST by indthkr
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To: rabscuttle385
Sarah Palin disagrees with this assessment:
A man of principle, he's not afraid to take tough positions, and he doesn't shy away from a fight. He's not worried about what's popular or partisan or personally advantageous. He's guided only by a desire to do what's right for the people he serves and the country he loves.

28 posted on 12/30/2010 11:18:56 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Frantzie
Your opinion is at odds with those who know McCain personally, like Sarah Palin:
"I admired his tireless crusade against the old pork-barrel-spending, earmarking, backroom-dealing ways of D.C. that make a whole lot of us pretty ill," she said. "Today, those issues are at the heart of a conservative movement that's sweeping this country.

"It's a beautiful grass-roots movement that's putting government back on the side of the people. . . . It's the tea-party movement, and I want to clear the air right now. Everybody supporting John McCain here today, we are all part of that movement."

“As we traveled across the country, I got to know John McCain personally,” Palin wrote. “He's a man of faith, a man of honor and — most of all — a man of the people. He's deeply devoted to his state; the patriotic, hard-working Arizonans who call it home; and the founding principles they hold dear.”

“one of the finest public servants in this country.”


29 posted on 12/30/2010 11:21:13 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Sherman Logan

“Many on FR seem to increasingly believe only sources on “our” side should be posted.”

Worse, if you point out errors of fact, logic, or civility from one of “our” sources, you’re suddenly the “enemy yourself, to be zotted.


30 posted on 12/30/2010 11:24:09 AM PST by Elwood P. Doud (America, you voted for a negro socialist with an Islamic name - so why act surprised?)
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To: rabscuttle385; Admin Moderator

Do we have a policy to follow when posting obvious propaganda from Al Jazeera?

Seems when we use our enemy’s ally to smear our own “enemy”, something is awry.

Please advise.
Thank you.


31 posted on 12/30/2010 11:36:25 AM PST by 1Swashbuckler
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To: 1Swashbuckler
Hell....we post stuff from MSNBC, CNN, and ABC....et al.

What's the difference....???

Let's let FReeper's decide what's propaganda...or not, eh?

32 posted on 12/30/2010 11:50:58 AM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: Albion Wilde

Of course, the Scots themselves were originally an Irish tribe that invaded and settled in what later became Scotland.


33 posted on 12/30/2010 12:10:47 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: rabscuttle385
Namely, that the Led Zeppelin-groupie relationship he then enjoyed with many in the media was based on a faulty premise.

I don't care who wrote it or to what end, but that's friggin hilarious and dead-on target.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

34 posted on 12/30/2010 12:21:51 PM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: Don Corleone
Perhaps he never really left that POW world. He cannot rage at those that kept him prisoner, so he rages against everyone else...after all he was the son of an Admiral and how dare they treat him this way....

I feel sorry for his wife, but she chose him..

35 posted on 12/30/2010 12:22:17 PM PST by goat granny (Great dad's are a blessing to son's but more so to daughters...)
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To: Will88
It looks like the writer is just a progressive writer who's work might be picked up by various publications - not a staff writer for Al Jazeera. I expect this article could be found elsewhere

right...I figured that out.

so we have a progressive writer who strikes a chord with our enemies at AL Jazeera. and why would we want to have anything to do with either of these defilers of America

36 posted on 12/30/2010 12:40:53 PM PST by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: Sherman Logan
Many on FR seem to increasingly believe only sources on “our” side should be posted. This makes criticism much easier. You don’t have to point out a factual or logical flaw in the article itself, only that it is from the “wrong” side. This is beginning to get ridiculous. If we only listen to each other, we can never learn much, and most especially we won’t become familiar with the arguments of the other side and therefore be able to more effectively refute them...

Bump! Completely agree Sherman!

37 posted on 12/30/2010 12:43:40 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: rabscuttle385
Of course, as Corn also wrote, “Not only had McCain flip-flopped, he had become an angry crusader, seemingly full of rage at a policy initiative he once quasi-endorsed…It seemed more personal than policy -- as in he really doesn't fancy seeing a victory for President Obama, the fellow who prevented McCain from becoming BMOC.”

Pure horsecrap, given that McCain has also expressed willingness to work with Obama. One can find plenty of reasons to rip into McCain without making up speculative claims that are a line drawn from a single starting point - and such a line can be drawn in any direction.

But don't let the facts get in the way of opinions of David Corn ... or Paultards who hate McCain mostly for being pro-Iraq-War.

38 posted on 12/30/2010 12:57:13 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: rabscuttle385
Exactly what is invalid about the article?

Try reading it without your eyes glazed over in Paultard glee. You might spot a few glaring variances from the truth if you did.

But, then again, you show a history of not being discriminating about where you post from - as long as you like the conclusions drawn, you don't care how they got there.

39 posted on 12/30/2010 1:04:40 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: rabscuttle385
Let me see if I'm following this correctly. So far FReepers have pinged the AdminMod twice, asked for your thread to be pulled, your source banned and you zotted. It has been declared (essentially) that only ideologically correct sources should be posted on Free Republic, which I suppose limits it to vanities posted by selected individuals, since all news sources are flawed.

I think I'm missing something. When did someone logically show where the article was factually incorrect? Or even logically refute the opinion of the author?

40 posted on 12/30/2010 1:06:04 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan

See my post 38. IMO the libtard wrote this, al Jazerra ran it and rabs posted it because they all despise McCain’s stance on the Iraq War - about the only good thing he has done over the last ten years. There are plenty of good reason to rip into McCain over his deviation from conservative values without listening to the antiwar wingnuts.


41 posted on 12/30/2010 1:09:38 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: Pan_Yan

And beyond that, the article got after McCain for changing his stance on DADT. For whatever reasons, he went to the right side of this issue - and AFTER he had won re-election (and not needing to worry about re-election for six years) - so in this case rabs is revelling in liberals attacking McCain for not carrying water for the Democrats this time.


42 posted on 12/30/2010 1:14:10 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

Thank you.


43 posted on 12/30/2010 1:16:32 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: rabscuttle385
So tell me, Rabs - since you are posting an article from a liberal who is upset with McCain's recent stance on DADT's repeal (McCain was against it), as a libertarian who supported the Libertarian candidate against McCain in the 2010 AZ Senate race - what is your position on the DADT repeal?

A simple support repeal / oppose repeal will suffice.

44 posted on 12/30/2010 1:21:43 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
And beyond that, the article got after McCain for changing his stance on DADT. For whatever reasons, he went to the right side of this issue - and AFTER he had won re-election (and not needing to worry about re-election for six years)

It's more than that. McCain 2006 on DADT, McCain 2010.

McCain is so used to sitting on 2 chairs, that he has no ability to pick just one.

45 posted on 12/30/2010 2:03:11 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Elwood P. Doud
Worse, if you point out errors of fact, logic, or civility from one of “our” sources, you’re suddenly the “enemy yourself, to be zotted.

Excellent points.

Another example is the rabid cheering section for Sarah. I like Sarah, I've liked her since before she was nominated for veep. But some act like she's the Second Coming of Christ, and any criticism, no matter how mild, is heresy.

46 posted on 12/30/2010 2:05:51 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: dirtboy

I’m confused. When did it become FR’s practice to not post anything with which we disagree?

It always seemed to me this was one of the primary advantages of the site, being able to post articles that the posters could then rip to shreds by using logic and facts.

Doesn’t that function pretty much disappear if we only post articles with which we agree?


47 posted on 12/30/2010 2:11:07 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
I’m confused. When did it become FR’s practice to not post anything with which we disagree?

The problem is, Rabs doesn't disagree with it - he has a long history of posting attacks on those he disagrees with from liberal sites - even as he often supports candidates (such as Libertarian Nolan from AZ) who runs counter to conservative positions on issues such as Iraq and the border fence.

And here he is posting from a liberal pundit who is bashing McCain for opposing DADT. I don't find it constructive to bash someone no matter what they do - and there are plenty of legitimate conservative reasons to bash McCain without bashing him when he is actually on the right side of the issue as he was recently with DADT.

48 posted on 12/30/2010 2:40:23 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: Bokababe
McCain is so used to sitting on 2 chairs, that he has no ability to pick just one.

So he came around to the ride side now. Let's join the liberals in bashing him for it.

Really constructive.

49 posted on 12/30/2010 2:41:32 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: Sherman Logan; dirtboy
Excuse me, but don't you think it a mite strange that an article is posted that's written by a libtard who normally makes things up as is his normal Marxist bent, and is published by Al Jezeera as a source for the truth about John McCain?

Are you suggesting we should think that's normal posting behavior on FR?

50 posted on 12/30/2010 2:49:08 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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