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Obama to give Manhattan back to Native Americans
World Net Daily ^ | Dec. 26, 2010 | Eugene J. Koprowski

Posted on 12/30/2010 10:55:38 AM PST by re_tail20

President Obama is voicing support for a U.N. resolution that could accomplish something as radical as relinquishing some U.S. sovereignty and opening a path for the return of ancient tribal lands to American Indians, including even parts of Manhattan.

The issue is causing alarm among legal experts.

In recent remarks at the White House during a "tribal nations conference," Obama endorsed the "United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People," which includes a sweeping declaration that "indigenous peoples have a right to lands and resources they traditionally occupied or otherwise used" but that later were acquired by occupying forces.

Read the scoop on the United Nations, in "The Beast on the East River"

"U.N. resolutions like this claiming amorphous rights can be a stalking horse for future attempts to have international courts enforce broad interpretations of those rights at the expense of American sovereignty," Theodore Frank, a fellow with the Center for Legal Policy at the Manhattan Institute, a leading public policy think tank in New York City, told WND.

Academic legal experts indicate that American Indians during the Carter era first drew up plans for reacquisition of lost tribal lands, setting the stage for the U.N. resolution that Obama is embracing. The feasibility study, eyeing 650 million acres of federally owned land in the U.S., was conducted by the Indian Education Institute at Eastern Oregon State, one expert recalled for WND.

"Re-purchase would restore land back to its original owners thus strengthening tribal sovereignty and jurisdiction over its people and land," Julianne Jennings Nottoway, a professor of anthropology at Pima Community College in Tuscon, Ariz., said. "Also, it would allow tribes the opportunity to develop socially, politically and economically as competitors as nation-states within a global context under the act of self-determination."

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 200yrstoolate; indians; nativeamericans; obamamanhattan
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1 posted on 12/30/2010 10:55:42 AM PST by re_tail20
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To: re_tail20

I forgot the question mark at the end.

Please read instead:

Obama to give Manhattan back to Native Americans?


2 posted on 12/30/2010 10:56:43 AM PST by re_tail20
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To: re_tail20

Manhattan does not belong to the federal government and certainly not to the UN.


3 posted on 12/30/2010 10:57:40 AM PST by orinoco
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To: orinoco

It isn’t Obama’s or the UN’s either!


4 posted on 12/30/2010 10:58:42 AM PST by Kackikat (There is no such thing as a free lunch, because someone paid, somewhere.)
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To: re_tail20

Peter Minuit bought it fair and square.


5 posted on 12/30/2010 10:59:00 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: re_tail20

The question is how is indigenous defined? Many American Indians think they are indigenous to this continent for example, but archaeology has proven them wrong about that in certain areas.


6 posted on 12/30/2010 10:59:13 AM PST by Free Vulcan (The cult of Islam must be eradicated by any means necessary.)
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To: Free Vulcan

I won’t even begin to try and decide who’s indigenous in the parts of Europe and Asia who have been overrun countless times by invasion.


7 posted on 12/30/2010 11:00:07 AM PST by Free Vulcan (The cult of Islam must be eradicated by any means necessary.)
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To: re_tail20

The UN is engaged on an all out assualt on this Country.

Why we allow it to continue is beyond me.


8 posted on 12/30/2010 11:01:31 AM PST by Captain7seas (FIRE JANE LUBCHENCO FROM NOAA)
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To: re_tail20

By reason of this UN farce do Mexicans have legal title to the areas occupied by Americans as a result of the Mexican-American War? The current occupant of the White House, due to his hatred of this country and its people, may just authorize transfer of title.


9 posted on 12/30/2010 11:01:56 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Free Vulcan

So the Jews get Israel?


10 posted on 12/30/2010 11:02:15 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: orinoco
Manhattan does not belong to the federal government and certainly not to the UN.

You don't expect that to stand in the way of der Fuhrer 0bama, do you?

11 posted on 12/30/2010 11:02:35 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: re_tail20

This is utterly laughable. What a collection of incompetent buffoons we have occupying positions of authority.


12 posted on 12/30/2010 11:03:16 AM PST by familyof5
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To: re_tail20

“Indigenous” is the new “aryan” ... indigenous supremacy has taken hold of the far left, and with it have come all the inevitable fascist consequences of any “racial supremacy” movement.

SnakeDoc


13 posted on 12/30/2010 11:03:19 AM PST by SnakeDoctor ("They made it evident to every man [...] that human beings are many, but men are few." -- Herodotus)
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To: re_tail20

Good, Give half the mid east back to the Christians and Jews, Pakistan back to the sikhs....and whoever else mohammet displaced.

Oops that would spell the dissolution of the OIC’s “UN”...


14 posted on 12/30/2010 11:03:19 AM PST by himno hero
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To: re_tail20

AS a person who has indian ancestors, and ancestors in USA for more than 400 yrs, it isn’t possible to fix the past. Obama is more interested in destroying America by any means possible. ZERO is a DIVISIVE MAN, and he is using REPERATIONS, PAST ETHNIC PROBLEMS, NATIVE AMERICANS, BLACKS,RACISM, and any other national crisis, as well as FINANCIAL TERRORISM to deceive and accomplish his agenda.

Zero never came to help, and the sooner we get that, along with his lies about being a christian we will all be better off. The Bible says ‘you will know them by their fruits (actions)”...and we have already seen his actions.


15 posted on 12/30/2010 11:04:18 AM PST by Kackikat (There is no such thing as a free lunch, because someone paid, somewhere.)
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To: Free Vulcan
The question is how is indigenous defined?

The first Cro-Magnon family that walks up my driveway and asks (in English) to have my house can have it.

16 posted on 12/30/2010 11:04:38 AM PST by ProfoundBabe ("Every real thought on every real subject knocks the wind out of somebody or other." - OW Holmes)
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To: re_tail20

As a Native American, I do not recognize Obama’s right of ownership over Manhattan for him to ‘give’ it to anyone. This is highly insulting to Native Americans and dare I say, a racist move on Obama’s part.


17 posted on 12/30/2010 11:04:42 AM PST by mnehring
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To: SnakeDoctor

Interesting. Haven’t thought about it in those terms. You have a point.


18 posted on 12/30/2010 11:06:30 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: massgopguy

“So the Jews get Israel?”

Good point, but we all know the left, in its many incarnations, including the UN, has an infinite capacity for talking out of both sides of its mouth-simultaneously.


19 posted on 12/30/2010 11:07:08 AM PST by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: orinoco

So? That hasn’t stopped them before from giving away things they don’t own.


20 posted on 12/30/2010 11:07:51 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: re_tail20

Oh, GOOD!
They will be able to stop the building of the Ground Zero Mosque!!!!!


21 posted on 12/30/2010 11:07:56 AM PST by G Larry (When you're right, avoid compromise!)
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To: re_tail20

Start with the UN building/S


22 posted on 12/30/2010 11:08:06 AM PST by Marty62 (Marty 60)
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To: Free Vulcan
What areas would that be?
23 posted on 12/30/2010 11:08:19 AM PST by fish hawk (RINO-plasty: Congressional surgery done with a vote.)
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To: re_tail20

People in the US never pay attention until an issue becomes local or universal. Everything that the Obama administration is doing is aimed at redistribution, including returning rural land to its “rightful owners”. It’s Agenda 21.

We have been witnessing this movement in WA state for years, but now it has the backing of the Obama administration. Obama even invited representatives of certain tribes (including our local tribe, the Lummis) to the White House, where the Indians were told that Obama intended to return their land to them. One of the locals came back and bragged about it on the web site of the local newspaper. The local interpreted what Obama said as restorative justice, or getting even.


24 posted on 12/30/2010 11:09:10 AM PST by Eva
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

By reason of this UN farce do Mexicans have legal title to the areas occupied by Americans as a result of the Mexican-American War? The current occupant of the White House, due to his hatred of this country and its people, may just authorize transfer of title.”””’

How about the land covered by The Louisiana Purchase???


25 posted on 12/30/2010 11:09:41 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Free Vulcan

The question is how is indigenous defined?


Easy. Anyone but White people are indigenous.

I have heard this term with increasign frequency and expect that trend to continue. In PC speak, Indigenous is the “new” favored class.


26 posted on 12/30/2010 11:09:56 AM PST by rbg81 (When you see Obama, shout: "DO YOUR JOB!!")
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To: re_tail20

Is this a joke? A satire?


27 posted on 12/30/2010 11:10:00 AM PST by DefeatCorruption
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To: tubebender
When are you going to start paying rent to the Wyot tribe? I believe your shop is on sacred grounds.
28 posted on 12/30/2010 11:10:07 AM PST by fish hawk (RINO-plasty: Congressional surgery done with a vote.)
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To: re_tail20

As long as they return the $23 in baubles they received for it originally.


29 posted on 12/30/2010 11:10:53 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: re_tail20

I guess Casinos and tax free tobacco wasn’t enough.


30 posted on 12/30/2010 11:11:17 AM PST by AU72
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To: re_tail20

I think the new congress should de-fund the UN...if they have such authority...


31 posted on 12/30/2010 11:12:58 AM PST by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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To: re_tail20

Found this a while back on the Internet:

In 1776 the Sioux defeated the Cheyenne in war and took the Black Hills from them.

About 100 years later the US did the same to the Sioux.

Why does the first conquest confer legitimate title and the second doesn’t?

So who gets the Black Hills, the Cheyenne or the Sioux?


32 posted on 12/30/2010 11:13:11 AM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: Eva

The local interpreted what Obama said as restorative justice, or getting even.”

Reparations—Pure & Simple.

Gone far beyond the 40 acres & a mule.

Let-s see— give back land that white Americans now own- to the Indians—who live on major subsistence of the American taxpayers...

Are these Indians going to claim that everything is ‘reservation land’ & not subject to any property taxes?

Where will the money for the support of the Indians come from in the future???

Take back all of the country & give it back to the Indians—Mexicans—French—Spanish....

How much damage can one administration do to this country?

We will fight back, NObama.


33 posted on 12/30/2010 11:14:17 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: re_tail20

As Whites gradually fade from majority status, look for more and more of this. Except, I guess, it will increasingly be policy instead of nonsense. In their end, they don’t really want the land, just the $$. Eventually, every White person will be paying a 50%+ tax for past “crimes” of their ancestors. Already, any Third worlder who wanders across the border has a claim on us. Increasingly that will be codified into law. If nothing changes, inn 100 years, our grandchildren will effectively be slaves—count on it.


34 posted on 12/30/2010 11:14:26 AM PST by rbg81 (When you see Obama, shout: "DO YOUR JOB!!")
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To: Marty62

Right on! I think I’d rather be under tribal law than Communist rule as I’m now in danger of becoming under the Obamanation.


35 posted on 12/30/2010 11:14:44 AM PST by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: re_tail20

Native Hawaiians are gonna take this to the hilt - many already do not recognize the Land Court here.


36 posted on 12/30/2010 11:14:48 AM PST by 1FreeAmerican
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To: re_tail20

So, McCain said there is nothing to fear of Obama being President and Sarah supports McCain.


37 posted on 12/30/2010 11:15:06 AM PST by stockpirate (Sen. Mitch McConnel (R) has betrayed the Nov. 2, 2010 voters w/his tax bill!)
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To: re_tail20

People in the US never pay attention until an issue becomes local or universal. Everything that the Obama administration is doing is aimed at redistribution, including returning rural land to its “rightful owners”. It’s Agenda 21.

We have been witnessing this movement in WA state for years, but now it has the backing of the Obama administration. Obama even invited representatives of certain tribes (including our local tribe, the Lummis) to the White House, where the Indians were told that Obama intended to return their land to them. One of the locals came back and bragged about it on the web site of the local newspaper. The local interpreted what Obama said as restorative justice, or getting even.


38 posted on 12/30/2010 11:16:02 AM PST by Eva
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To: Free Vulcan

I’m indigenous. I was born here, raised here, and have spent my whole life here. My 4 grandparents, though, were Jews from Russia and Poland.


39 posted on 12/30/2010 11:16:07 AM PST by Maceman (Obama -- he's as American as nasi goreng)
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To: re_tail20
There goes tourism in Hawaii
40 posted on 12/30/2010 11:16:40 AM PST by fish hawk (reporter to old Indian: you lived here on the reservation all your life? Old Indian, "not yet".)
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To: chaosagent
Ha ha!

Joke's on them.

This dude gets *everything*.


41 posted on 12/30/2010 11:18:28 AM PST by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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To: Spok

As does 90% of our reps in Washington, Dems and Pubs.


42 posted on 12/30/2010 11:21:16 AM PST by fish hawk (reporter to old Indian: you lived here on the reservation all your life? Old Indian, "not yet".)
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To: Portcall24

Soo? What are going to do about it? Complain!!


43 posted on 12/30/2010 11:21:41 AM PST by orinoco
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To: Aleya2Fairlie

Really, do a few tribal leaders (are they REAL NA’s) think they have a snowballs chance in H of evicting the Manhattanites. This is laughable.


44 posted on 12/30/2010 11:23:07 AM PST by Marty62 (Marty 60)
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To: re_tail20

“Obama to give Manhattan back to Native Americans?”

But will they be required to embrace Islam as a condition?


45 posted on 12/30/2010 11:23:53 AM PST by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: re_tail20

I am, on a level, sympathetic to the suffering of the American Indian. I don’t know much about other “indigenous”
people in other parts of the world.

And I support continued efforts to improve their lot in life, short of wholesale “reparations” or giving back parts of Manhattan. That’s loony.

I believe most Americans think like me. That’s the GOOD news.

Now for the BAD news. IF white Europeans had not come from the East. Then the Japanese, Chinese or Russians surely
would have come from the west. And the treatment of the
American Indian might have been considerably worse by those
people. They might want to ponder the prospect of THAT for awhile.

The fact that the American Indian and other “indigenous” peoples were zoomed past by world civilization, is not the
“fault” of any particular group.

It just IS.


46 posted on 12/30/2010 11:24:07 AM PST by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: re_tail20
What I find interesting -- and perhaps laughable -- about this nonsense is that in most cases the definition of "indigenous" includes a presumption that the people in question had no written language or any other form of documentation that could ever meet a legal standard for proving ownership in this day and age.

As a result, what these "declarations on the rights of indigenous peoples" are aiming to do is carve out large geographic areas where these "indigenous peoples" are supposed to live under some kind of delusional state of affairs where history is erased and the modern world can be forcibly removed to the extent that it presents a problem of any kind.

In short, they are effectively reduced to the same moral status and legal protection afforded to endangered animals.

47 posted on 12/30/2010 11:25:36 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: AU72

Small price to pay for the greatest country in the world though. Especially since you don’t have to gamble and you don’t have to smoke.


48 posted on 12/30/2010 11:26:08 AM PST by fish hawk (reporter to old Indian: you lived here on the reservation all your life? Old Indian, "not yet".)
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To: Salamander

What does Jean Luc Picard have to do with this?


49 posted on 12/30/2010 11:26:12 AM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: re_tail20

To what tribe would Obama give the island to? It is my understanding that even the Manhattan Indians were not indigenous to the island, and that they found it quite funny that the Dutch were willing to bribe them in order to colonize.


50 posted on 12/30/2010 11:26:54 AM PST by Jay Redhawk
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