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Police video shows how drug raid turned deadly [SWAT v. golf club]
sltrib.com ^ | 27 Dec 2010 | Erin Alberty

Posted on 12/30/2010 4:19:27 PM PST by smokingfrog

Shouts break the evening silence.

“Police! Search warrant!”

Officers burst through the door. A man appears across the room. Metal glints from his clasped hands. Shots echo from a police-issue Glock 22. Todd Blair slumps to the floor.

“Five seconds,” said Blair’s mother, Arlean. “In five seconds, he was dead.”

Officers entered Blair’s home Sept. 16 during a drug raid when he stepped into the hall, wielding a golf club, police video shows. Ogden police Sgt. Troy Burnett shot Blair, 45, in the head and chest.

The shooting was deemed legally justified.

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1 posted on 12/30/2010 4:19:33 PM PST by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

Get on the ground!

Duh? You just shot him to death.


2 posted on 12/30/2010 4:24:00 PM PST by smokingfrog (Do all the talking you want, but do what I tell you.)
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To: smokingfrog

never bring a golf club to a gun fight?


3 posted on 12/30/2010 4:24:30 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: smokingfrog

So, were there drugs in the house or not?


4 posted on 12/30/2010 4:27:52 PM PST by exnavy (May the Lord grant our troops protection and endurance.)
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To: smokingfrog
I heard from a confidential informant that the shooter-cop is a drug dealer.

When will his door be kicked in?

5 posted on 12/30/2010 4:29:01 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (DEFCON I ALERT: The federal cancer has metastasized. All personnel report to their battle stations.)
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To: smokingfrog
Another victim of the "War on Drugs."

Why do We the People allow this to continue?

From the article:
On the video, minutes before the raid begins, an officer can be heard asking the group, “Did somebody grab a copy of the warrant off my desk?”

“Oh, don’t tell me that,” Burnett replies. He then tells the other officers, “He doesn’t have a copy of the warrant.”

Because the warrant was for a no-knock search, the copy wasn’t necessary to enter the house, Weber County Attorney Dee Smith said.

“Someone could have easily hurried and brought it back [from the office],” he said.

There is no time limit for when a warrant should be presented to a subject, agreed Ogden Police Chief Jon Greiner — “it depends on the situation” — but generally when a warrant is served, “It’s in [officers’] possession at the time.”
Knocking and showing the warrant is always necessary for the police to enter my home. I don't care what the DA or the Judge thinks. I won't be the only one shot dead if someone tries to enter my home without knocking and showing a warrant.
6 posted on 12/30/2010 4:29:27 PM PST by cc2k
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To: smokingfrog
The shooting was deemed legally justified.

Of course it was....

7 posted on 12/30/2010 4:30:02 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: exnavy
So, were there drugs in the house or not?

I suppose to some, that would be a more important question than whether even if he did, it's worth killing over. Then again, some people wanted a Drug War and the body counts, especially on both sides of Mexico's northern border, but also in cases like this, are starting to add up.

8 posted on 12/30/2010 4:30:50 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: coloradan
I suppose to some, that would be a more important question than whether even if he did, it's worth killing over.

That dude wasn't killed, he was executed.

9 posted on 12/30/2010 4:35:22 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: smokingfrog
The lesson the cops want to send to the public at large is, "The timing and fact of your summary execution are completely at my discretion. So drop to the floor on your face and cower when I say 'Police!' when I kick your door in, and I might allow you to live."

The lesson bad guys (other than cops) get is, "Damn! This is too easy. All I have to do is kick a door in and scream 'Police! Search warrant!' and even the most innocent and well-armed home owner is going to drop his weapon, hit the floor, and involuntarily wet himself. Thanks for conditioning my victims for me, Mr. Trigger Happy Policeman."

10 posted on 12/30/2010 4:36:18 PM PST by behzinlea
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To: smokingfrog

“Sgt. Troy Burnett shot Blair, 45, in the head and chest.”

I don’t have to watch it

In the head and Chest is all I need to know.

Man, there isn’t a call to shoot someone like this. With the technology we have today and this being a swat raid, there isn’t any excuse for not having non-lethal options available.


11 posted on 12/30/2010 4:39:10 PM PST by dila813
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To: coloradan
No knock warrants are unconstitutional.

Meth is satans candy.

Both sides are wrong on this one.

12 posted on 12/30/2010 4:39:36 PM PST by exnavy (May the Lord grant our troops protection and endurance.)
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To: smokingfrog
received word that Blair had 2 ounces of heroin and would be getting more that night

Not something many meth dealers are going to have.

13 posted on 12/30/2010 4:41:36 PM PST by SouthTexas (A Merry and Blessed Christmas to All!)
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To: smokingfrog

I have a Glock and 400 rounds of ammo. If the pigs are going to break down my door, they better send 401 cops.


14 posted on 12/30/2010 4:45:16 PM PST by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: behzinlea

Perfectly rendered.

No-knock entries are *UNCONSTITUTIONAL*!!!!

If you think there’s a danger, you need to find another way to get the perp.

But entries *MUST ALWAYS* be preceeded by a knock and the presentation of a warrant.


15 posted on 12/30/2010 4:45:16 PM PST by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I don’t know all the facts, but as a former Police Officer I find it odd that a”drug dealer” would be armed with a a golf club. A drug dealer would know better than confront a armed officer with a golf club he would know that he risks getting shot. A innocent homeowner expecting to greet a home burglar ,would not. sounds like a lot of unanswered questions.


16 posted on 12/30/2010 4:48:40 PM PST by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: exnavy
So, were there drugs in the house or not?

From the article:

It isn’t clear from evidence logs whether investigators found the drugs they were looking for. There was paraphernalia and “a small, pink plastic bag with a white crystal substance.”

But neither the substance nor its amount is identified, and officials with the Weber-Morgan Narcotics Strike Force didn’t return The Tribune’s calls for comment.

Now what?

17 posted on 12/30/2010 4:50:01 PM PST by TankerKC (Part of the Soros funded Blog Police.)
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To: cc2k
I won't be the only one shot dead if someone tries to enter my home without knocking and showing a warrant.

You might think you are Rambo, but you are not.

18 posted on 12/30/2010 4:50:22 PM PST by freedomwarrior998
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To: nonliberal

Do you sell meth? And no, you aren’t Rambo either.


19 posted on 12/30/2010 4:50:55 PM PST by freedomwarrior998
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To: smokingfrog
“He had less than a second to make a decision with a guy swinging what looked like a sword in his hands,” Greiner said. “We train these officers regularly on how to defend themselves and be able to go home at night.”

If going home at night is your number 1 priority, become a shoe clerk.

20 posted on 12/30/2010 4:51:12 PM PST by TankerKC (Part of the Soros funded Blog Police.)
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To: smokingfrog

Ever since the so-called War On Drugs (WOD) — actually more like the War On The Bill of Rights) — began, our civilian cops have been undergoing MILITARY training. The “authorities” gentle it down with the prefix “Para” but those “dynamic entry” teams would be more at home in Baghdad than Boston. (Well, unless they hit John Kerry’s front door at 3 am, Boston might not be a good example.) Watch “Dallas SWAT” for a dose of how it works.

I have long thought that that sort of activity within the ranks of otherwise “civilian” law enforcement was a push by those with an agenda to bypass posse comitatus for purposes BEYOND the WOD and other currently criminal behavior.

That the mass of that shrinking minority – the American citizen (thank you Mr. Open Borders Bush and Total Amnesty Obama) – has NOT objected to this erosion of personal liberty does NOT bode well for the future of freedom here.

I wonder what sort of body count of innocent grandmothers and others it will take before folks begin to grasp that they might be more at risk from the cops than the criminals and bring the situation back under control?

My Uncle Bob (R.I.P.) would be horrified.

My Uncle Bob was a 30-year veteran of a police force in suburban Cleveland. He was best man at my wedding in 1962. He served in an era when MOST cops embodied the now frequently hollow motto emblazoned on police units all over this country: “TO PROTECT AND SERVE.”

The last 10 years of his career were spent as the chief Juvenile Detective in his department. When he died, a number of the young men whose lives he had touched years before came forward to tell how his timely and sometimes tough-love intervention turned them around.

I know that many officers STILL try to live that creed today. I also know that there are officers out there who, despite the rulings by the Supremes that they have no obligation to specific, individual citizens (see Warren v. DC for some fascinating and frightening reading on that), would stand between one of us and a bullet – and have.

Having said that, I must also lament that SOME cops are “cowboys.” Too many are simply power driven megalomaniacs who would have dropped on the OTHER side of the law had their lives drifted a degree or two off the course they did take.

I believe this to be especially true of far too many federal law enforcement types who have allowed their egos and hubris to become as bloated as the bureaucratic federal behemoth they serve. (See footnote below). Their mandate is no longer to “…protect and serve” the citizens who pay their salaries: It is to crush any meaningful resistance to a growing body of procedures, regulations and policies – too frequently enforced under severely tortured interpretations of the underlying legislative enactments (if any) – and often put in place by executive fiat. The massively abused SEIZURE statutes – laws the author of which now seeks to RESCIND! — spring to mind.

And one cannot but help to wonder how the clear to anyone with half a brain criminality of the Clintons and now Obama – and their subsequent avoidance of any penalty – has played into the problem? There now seems to be a bright line between the easy, highly flexible, slap-on-the-wrist law for the rich and powerful and the rigidly enforced law against even the tiniest victimless “crimes” committed by those of us further down the food chain. Does anyone in his right mind believe THAT will NOT engender added disrespect for ALL law?

Could those things be a large part of the problem in some of the highly disturbing – and DEADLY (on BOTH sides) – confrontations we have witnessed over the past decade or so? Gordon Kahl, Ruby Ridge, OK City, Waco, Beck… This list WILL lengthen and we’d all better pray that WE will be spared.

Roman historian Tacitus warned that one could tell the level of corruption in a society by the NUMBER of its laws. Anyone doubt the level of corruption here?
Am I the only one who thinks we’re long overdue a serious review of the NUMBERS of laws under which we are now forced to exist – and which are increasingly used not to assure our safety or well-being, but to COMMAND AND CONTROL us and KEEP US IN LINE.

Only the most tyrannical and power-crazed members of law enforcement could possibly object to that.

The modern counterparts of my uncle would not object.

It is THEY, after all, who are most likely to catch that bullet – probably fired by someone who has symbolically screamed to himself “I’M MAD AS HELL AND I’M NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANY MORE” — referred to earlier when they sally forth to serve that flimsy warrant or make that bogus arrest.

Dick Bachert (1999) Updated 12/2010

FOOTNOTE:
At a cocktail party back in the late 80’s, I struck up a chat with a fellow — his name was Joe M. — whom I’d met on one or two previous events. After my first encounter, Joe’s neighbor and my boss at the time told me that Joe was an alcoholic who had just retired from 25 years with the IRS. Needless to say, I was guarded in expressing my political views to Joe as the IRS had helped my dad into an early grave in 1977 — at age 59 over an estate matter. Joe was pretty deep into his cups at the function in question and began telling IRS “war stories.” Most had to do with clear cases of criminal conduct by not very nice people. Joe — who was a few years short of 60 — sounded to me like someone who enjoyed helping getting really bad people off the street and I asked why he’d retired early. He told me that what he called “the service” had changed for the worse. Then I asked him about the new people coming in. He shook his head, actually teared up and said that many of them were “really bad.” I pressed. “Really bad” meant incompetent? “No — DANGEROUS,” he responded “they like to hurt people.”

It was then that I think I understood why Joe drank.


21 posted on 12/30/2010 4:52:44 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: smokingfrog

The coward that shot him should be tried and executed for murder.


22 posted on 12/30/2010 4:55:11 PM PST by microgood
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To: nonliberal

You must be one heck of a shot!


23 posted on 12/30/2010 4:56:49 PM PST by smokingfrog (Do all the talking you want, but do what I tell you.)
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To: TankerKC

See post 12, that’s what.


24 posted on 12/30/2010 4:57:22 PM PST by exnavy (May the Lord grant our troops protection and endurance.)
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To: smokingfrog

I don’t own a golf club so I confront home invasions with a shotgun instead.


25 posted on 12/30/2010 4:57:41 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: exnavy
No meth or heroin were located on the premises, according to the inventory, she said, just a half-ounce of marijuana.
26 posted on 12/30/2010 4:58:13 PM PST by smokingfrog (Do all the talking you want, but do what I tell you.)
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To: exnavy
But there were no drugs...no evidence, no comment. You asked if there were drugs. Now that you know that answer...what now?
27 posted on 12/30/2010 4:59:23 PM PST by TankerKC (Part of the Soros funded Blog Police.)
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To: freedomwarrior998
Do you sell meth?

Does not matter. The cop is a cold blooded murderer and needs to be tried and executed.
28 posted on 12/30/2010 4:59:33 PM PST by microgood
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To: exnavy

There is ZERO justification for a police “raid” except when innocent lives are in imminent danger, e.g. hostage situations, or when there’s an active shooter. The military is for killing people and breaking things ... killing enemies and breaking their stuff. Killing US citizens, even criminals, or rather, criminal suspects - don’t forget “innocent until proven guilty” - is not something the US military should ever do, and is certainly not something the police should do. The costs of their doing so is no less than the cost that meth exacts on its addicts, except that what is rotted is not teeth, it’s freedom.


29 posted on 12/30/2010 5:00:11 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: microgood

That’s not what the law says. Learn the law, then you’ll realize that your notions are not the law.


30 posted on 12/30/2010 5:04:16 PM PST by freedomwarrior998
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I view 99 percent of law enforcment as publicly financed street thugs and gangbangers. I used to respect law enforcement, but no longer.


31 posted on 12/30/2010 5:05:14 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: freedomwarrior998
A home owner has a right to use deadly force to protect himself, his family, and his home from violent entry by armed intruders. At least in my state that's true.

Armed cops kicking in doors unannounced to conduct no-knock searches have been known to make mistakes, to kick in the wrong door.

Armed home invaders have been known to kick in doors and scream 'Police!' to deceive their victims into disarming themselves and becoming completely compliant.

Armed home invaders have been know to summarily execute their victims after burglarizing their homes and perhaps raping them.

In my opinion, no-knock searches like this one put the public in much greater danger than the drugs the cops are after.

This is gravely stupid, heavy-handed police work.

32 posted on 12/30/2010 5:08:12 PM PST by behzinlea
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To: GlockThe Vote

Then the media has done their job, and you bought the dope. You have been brought over to the Communist’s side, for the Communists have been waging a war on American police since the 1950s, and the media has been their willing accomplice.


33 posted on 12/30/2010 5:08:30 PM PST by freedomwarrior998
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To: TankerKC
If going home at night is your number 1 priority, become a shoe clerk.

But then you could be Al Bundy, who wants nothing more than a moment's peace to put one into his own brain housing group. :-)

34 posted on 12/30/2010 5:08:46 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: freedomwarrior998

The law is whatever the hell the cop holding the gun says it is. Fact, jack.


35 posted on 12/30/2010 5:10:00 PM PST by behzinlea
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To: TankerKC

Awards pension boosts promotions etc.


36 posted on 12/30/2010 5:10:45 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: behzinlea
And the police, executing a lawful warrant, have the right to respond to deadly force with deadly force. A golf club is deadly force. Period.

I agree that no-knock raids need to have specific parameters and some might be too quick to use them where they are not necessary. However, the answer to that problem is working within the law to establish clear guidelines when and in what situations such a warrant will be issued.

Regardless, in this situation, the officers were acting with a warrant, issued on probable cause, signed by a detached neutral magistrate.

Nobody wants to place any blame on the worthless doper in this case, who brought the problem on himself, both by selling drugs, and then by bringing a golf club to a gun fight.

37 posted on 12/30/2010 5:14:26 PM PST by freedomwarrior998
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To: behzinlea

Incorrect.


38 posted on 12/30/2010 5:15:15 PM PST by freedomwarrior998
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To: freedomwarrior998
That’s not what the law says. Learn the law, then you’ll realize that your notions are not the law.

The law is written for the state, by the state, not the people.

Using that logic, gassing the Jews was not murder.

Murder is still murder, regardless of what any given law says.

And the world will recognize that once we get past this horrifically evil era in America, which we will after our generation dies off.
39 posted on 12/30/2010 5:15:54 PM PST by microgood
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To: freedomwarrior998
Too many damned many trigger-happy blood lust-filled cops--not all of them--are waging a war on the public they are supposed to protect. They are NOT held accountable. The law does NOT hold them accountable! They'll shoot your dog, they'll shoot you kid, they'll shoot your grandmother. It doesn't matter to them. They're cops, dammit! Respect their authority!

There are good cops. I know some. Their jobs are made difficult by jackasses like the trigger-happy blue suit in this story.

40 posted on 12/30/2010 5:16:44 PM PST by behzinlea
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To: Dick Bachert

Interesting insights D.B.


41 posted on 12/30/2010 5:17:36 PM PST by smokingfrog (Do all the talking you want, but do what I tell you.)
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To: freedomwarrior998

Whatever. Believe what you want. This whole war on drugs is a war on the taxpayer and war on the const.

the only lives on the line are that of the general public subjected to this sadistic mob of psychos we call cops andaw enforcement.


42 posted on 12/30/2010 5:17:44 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: dila813

“In the head and Chest is all I need to know.”

AKA the Double Tap


43 posted on 12/30/2010 5:19:20 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: freedomwarrior998

Please change your screen name. You are not a warrior for freedom, but an apologist for the gestapo.


44 posted on 12/30/2010 5:19:50 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: SouthTexas

“Not something many meth dealers are going to have.”

Meanwhile our borders remain wide open and tons of the stuff is carted across in trucks driven by mexican drivers.


45 posted on 12/30/2010 5:20:55 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: freedomwarrior998
And the police, executing a lawful warrant, have the right to respond to deadly force with deadly force.

And an innocent homeowner has a right to blow the sh*t out of an armed intruder who has just broken down his door. Right?

46 posted on 12/30/2010 5:25:52 PM PST by behzinlea
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To: freedomwarrior998; exnavy
"You might think you are Rambo, but you are not."

Weird movie characters aside, anything can happen in an armed fight, and vanity is anyone's worst enemy in such scenario. Training is our best friend, and most men don't get much training. Often, those who fantasize that they do are "professional" slobs who watch too much television while relying mainly on popular propaganda to keep them safe from bad boys.

I've been there, done that, found corruption and rolled over on it. Sometimes, the Feds are the best friends that a good cop and his resident neighbors (clean non-cops) can have.

Agreed with exnavy on this one, BTW. Both sides are wrong. No-knock raids are unconstitutional, and the drug problem needs to be dealt with. Men with combat training are more often cleaner, calmer and not so involved in vanities. Those are the men that police agencies should be seeking--not lifelong civilian ragbags "looking for action" (looking for trouble).

The whole issue won't be of much significance after the defaults in local governments anyway. Goodbye hordes of overpaid, wanna-be commandos mis-educated at colleges and universities. Enter a few old-fashioned, "redneck" peace officers with common sense.


47 posted on 12/30/2010 5:29:31 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: behzinlea
Actually the police don't have rights they have authority allowed them by the government through statutes.

Citizens have the right of self-defense bestowed on them by their Creator.

48 posted on 12/30/2010 5:31:22 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: freedomwarrior998
I may not be Rambo and I am under no illusion that I resemble such a fictional character in any way, but your snarky comment does not take into account that there are millions of well armed ex-servicemen out there (I happen to be one) who are prepared to defend themselves and are quite capable of killing in the heat of the moment if the circumstances dictate.

You think you have a clue what you're talking about. I believe you need to think a little harder about your comment.

49 posted on 12/30/2010 5:40:29 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: smokingfrog

Not any different that what the Nazis, the Stasi, or other countries have done in the past now in the present.


50 posted on 12/30/2010 5:46:29 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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