Beam me to Planet Gore !
Posted on 12/30/2010 4:50:39 PM PST by Kaslin
Environment: Ignoring both Congress and the voters, the Environmental Protection Agency starts the new year governing by decree with job-killing regulations. Take a deep breath, but if you exhale you're a polluter.
Cap-and-trade is dead, long live cap-and-trade in the form of regulations promulgated in the coming year by what George Orwell might call the Ministry of Environment. It claims that the Clean Air Act and a Supreme Court ruling in 2007 let the EPA regulate carbon dioxide as a planet-warming pollutant.
We recently commented on the EPA's recent commandeering of the permitting process from Texas, with which it is in a legal tussle over federalism, states' rights and the Constitution's enumeration of powers and who may exercise them.
The federal agency also plans to issue greenhouse gas permits in seven other states — Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Idaho, Kansas, Oregon and Wyoming.
The EPA held its fire, hoping a Democratic Congress would get cap-and-trade legislation through both houses. In April, 2009, Time magazine ran a piece titled "EPA'S CO2 Finding: Putting A Gun To Congress' Head." Last year the New York Times said that if Congress fails to ram through cap-and-trade legislation, the EPA should ram it down our throats. And so it did.
With Barack Obama's election, liberal hopes for cap-and-trade rose. But neither businessmen nor homeowners were buying it, especially after the data manipulation and fraud perpetrated by the U.N.'s IPCC, Britain's Climate Research Unit and even our own NASA.
(Excerpt) Read more at investors.com ...
It’s time to DEFUND the EPA. Make those bass turds get out there and look for REAL JOBS! It’s the American thing to do.
The $64,000 question is what WILL happen next (not what should happen next)??
“When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation”.
These words were first spoken in 1776, We have lost many our rights under the current government (King obama) ,perhaps it time for Americans to stand tall and demand that obama be dethroned and the Constitutional Republic be restored.
Don't even think about "compromising" with this administration.
I totally agree. The EPA is one of the most dangerous government orgainizations we have. There are others that are close but the EPA can ruin your lives by just regulating everything you do. The House must defund it and it should be the first thing they do in January. If they don’t, they will be part of the problem.
They can be dealt with.
DEFUND is DEFEND. You leave the whole mechanism in place for the next administration to revive.
KILL IT COMPLETELY or ADMIT DEFEAT, RINO!
Not by the FReeper crowd, they won't. FReeper half-measures won't even touch these folks.
There was a time when the EPA actually did good work but it has become a danger to the nation. It’s critical functions can be transfers to another agency or mandated to the states with oversight. It would probably save use a bunch to boot.
Liberals hate RIchard Nixon with a white hot passion, yet they aren’t afraid to use his creation.
The EPA needs to be closed.
All bureaucracies stray from their charter, forever seeking more power and control.
It’s long passed time for the EPA to be relegated to the “ash heap of history”.
Damn! That’s the first time I’ve been called a RINO. Most people call me a rightwing, extremist kook.
Ping
The EPA is Ran by a NAACP racist Skank ,just more get the whiteman.
To you 1 man because he had an R behind his name is the problem.
Yes the EPA has to be abolished but so do all the environmental laws passed by democrat congresses. It is the President's duty to execute the laws passed by Congress. Nixon was just consolidating environmental agencies and obeying the constitution by enforcing the environmental laws passed by Congress. The Marxists have been passing enviromental laws for over 100 years. The President has to enforce these laws. But to you and to democrats everything is Nixon's or Bush's fault , any man with an R behind his name. Nixon didn't write the 100 years of environmental laws.You all are puppets of the liberal media.
These laws have to be repealed. Otherwise another President will be able and has to by law to enforce these dumb ,evil, economy-crippling, environmental laws.
Most people have little understanding how the this country works. It is still a country of laws. The democrats/marxist congresses have passed hundreds of thousands of pages of economy and business crippling laws . That is the problem.
America has had a long history of legislation aimed at protecting the nations waterways, although usually the legislation was designed to prevent navigation hazards and not pollution. 1. The first such law was the Rivers and Harbors Act of 1899, which prohibited the dumping of any solid waste into navigable rivers and harbors. Although this law was originally intended to keep waterways free of obstacles to navigation, it did reduce some forms of polluti http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~hallman/EPA.htm
Yes the EPA has to be abolished but so do all the environmental laws passed by democrat congresses. It is the President's duty to execute the laws passed by Congress. Nixon was just consolidating environmental agencies and obeying the constitution by enforcing the environmental laws passed by Congress. The Marxists have been passing environmental laws for over 100 years. The President has to enforce these laws. But to you and to democrats everything is Nixon's or Bush's fault , any man with an R behind his name. Nixon didn't write the 100 years of environmental laws.You all are puppets of the liberal media.
These laws have to be repealed. Otherwise another President will be able and has to by law to enforce these dumb ,evil,marxist, economy-crippling, environmental laws.
Most people have little understanding how the this country works. It is still a country of laws. The democrats/marxist congresses have passed hundreds of thousands of pages of economy and business crippling laws . That is the problem.
America has had a long history of legislation aimed at protecting the nations waterways, although usually the legislation was designed to prevent navigation hazards and not pollution. 1. The first such law was the Rivers and Harbors Act of 1899, which prohibited the dumping of any solid waste into navigable rivers and harbors. Although this law was originally intended to keep waterways free of obstacles to navigation, it did reduce some forms of polluti
http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~hallman/EPA.htm
FlingWingFlyer,
You are a rightwing, extremist off-the-reservation kook.
Feel better?
Glad to be of service.
Sheesh, I know they don’t like lead but heck, we got plenty and goes real fast otta’ are fire sticks.
It’s time for congress to declare CO2 a non pollutant. Take it out of the EPA’s hands.
Damn right they will. And nothing will be done about it, because the Republicans will go RIGHT BACK to 2005 without recourse to a flux capacitor, right back to "give the Democrats a reach-around" mode without even being wined & dined first, right back to musical committee chairs and hitting on Washington money whores.
Don't we get it yet? BUREAUCRACY TRUMPS THE REPUBLIC. The Machine is in place; rather than Big Brother, it's nameless faceless little-man's-disease academics who aren't even related to you. It's Cass Sunstein's boot stamping on Lincoln's beard, forever.
To borrow from B.T. Party, political-only solutions are a mere hologram of liberty.
NO, it is not. It is a country of regulation spewed from nameless faceless bureaucrats who have never done anything real in their lives, other than take a crap, and they probably have other people do that for them.
You wanna show me just where the Constitution authorizes anything even resembling an EPA? It has ZERO Constitutional critical or otherwise functions.
You can kill the funding without the president (he can’t physically FORCE Congress to include funding) but dissolving the department would require a presidential signature and can’t be done till Obama’s replaced.
Obama should be impeached for this. But still the existence the the EPA and FCC are based on LAWS that democrat congresses passed under the cover of the liberal mainstream media monopoly.Repeal the environmental laws then it's easier to abolish the EPA. The EPA was formed to consolidate several environmental agencies that were enforcing the environmental laws passed by democrat Congresses. What about that don't you people understand? Do you have any idea how the government works or about the Constitution? : The executive branch executes the laws passed by Congress. That's U.S. government 101.
For example: We abolish the EPA .Yet there are still thousands of pages of marxist ,anti-capitalism enviromental laws like that species act or whatever. Someone or some agency has to do environmental impact studies etc. to enforce those laws, to make sure that no habitat of some insect or forest or whatever is “harmed” by a power plant or construction or factory etc.. Of course those are horrible laws but it is the President's duty to see that those laws are enforced.So these laws have to be repealed first.
Why don't people understand that it is laws that are the problem: case in point the 3000 page government socialist healthcare law just recently passed.
Take CO2 for example. Public sentiment was such that Congress wouldn't declare it a pollutant, but the agency still did, and thinks that we're still obligated to abide by their regulations despite the fact that Congress chose not to act.
So there is value in reining in the enforcement agencies, even though part of the problem originates elsewhere. I see the argument for a non-political body to make some determinations in a technical field to avoid politicizing what is actually provable fact, but the way it's implemented it's like double jeopardy to our rights. If EITHER the political or administrative people want to shave away some of our rights, they get to just shave away. That's not right. Maybe the agency can make scientific findings and then submit them to Congress to be included in laws, then to be enforced by an executive agency but with no adding other things to regulate on their own say-so, but whatever, this way has to go.
EPA is the symptom. The laws are the disease.
You get rid of the EPA then something else or some other agencies or agency will take its place because those laws have to be enforced by the executive branch, the President.
Acknowledged. But you could get rid of part of the problem by prohibiting whatever agency is charged with enforcing the law from coming up with their own, when they’re too stupid or unpopular for Congress to be willing to pass them. That amounts to an end run around the people that fund their paychecks.
Don't get pedantic with me again. I know how the government is SUPPOSED to work, and I can quote the Constitution book chapter and verse. What I am saying is that Congressional Republicans lack the will to stand up to Obama and the EPA.
Nothing. We've been sucking it up for nearly 30 years and we will continue to suck it up. The government is faceless.
Ignoring both Congress and the voters, the Environmental Protection Agency starts the new year governing by decree with job-killing regulations. Take a deep breath, but if you exhale you're a polluter.The EPA needs to be greatly reduced in size; we need to drill for petroleum, mine anthracite coal, and have a massive number of treason trials, convictions, and executions for the Constitution-trampling leftists -- not just those at the EPA -- who are trying to ruin us and our posterity. Thanks Kaslin.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.