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Winning the Culture War: The Top 7 Issues Social Conservatives Ceded to the Left
David Horowitz's NewsReal Blog ^ | January 2, 2010 | Rob Taylor

Posted on 01/02/2011 12:45:33 PM PST by HorowitzianConservative

Social conservatism has long allowed itself to be painted as bloodless, largely irrelevant political Protestantism; an alliance of Evangelicals who have climbed into bed with the most myopic fringe movements in America. At the same time we have allowed the Left to co-opt issues that are central to achieving the goals of social conservatism: maintaining the traditions and values of Western Civilization in general and America (the pinnacle of Western civilization) in particular. While we find a hundred different ways to disapprove of gays or pornography or the idea that someone, somewhere is enjoying themselves in ways we find unseemly, the Left has framed our language, attitudes and even our perception of issues much more important to preserving our way of life than the few issues on which social conservatives have made their voices heard.

Social conservatism cannot simply be about promoting one religion or political party. It must be about preserving America as the last bastion of the West. The Judeo-Christian character of America should be recognized and defended – as should the fact that the Judeo-Christian worldview is the product of Western history that extends back through the mists of time to ages when there were neither Jews or Christians. We cannot be a cultural movement based on Europhilia — the West at its height encompassed the known world and distilled the best of hundreds of cultures into the great stream of ideas that make up Western consciousness.

Social conservatism should promote and defend the great ideas of the West. We must stand for freedom, justice, faith, virtue, and honor. We should promote Western values as not just a birthright of people in the West but as light in a world of darkness.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsrealblog.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: familyvalues; socialconservatism; theleft
Very powerful, substantive post.
1 posted on 01/02/2011 12:45:35 PM PST by HorowitzianConservative
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To: HorowitzianConservative

Bookmark!


2 posted on 01/02/2011 12:50:33 PM PST by corlorde (New Hampshire)
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To: HorowitzianConservative

bookmark.


3 posted on 01/02/2011 1:00:11 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: HorowitzianConservative

David,

Your new format where we have to click an advertisement laden page to get to the next paragraph in your articles really stinks.


4 posted on 01/02/2011 1:02:25 PM PST by Mandingo Conservative (Satan was like the first "community organizer", just ask Eve, the first liberal useful idiot!)
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To: HorowitzianConservative

I am a Roman Catholic who knows that the social conservative issues are the most important conservative issues of all.

How long will God bless our country if we continue to kill babies, and turn our backs on all of God’s laws?


5 posted on 01/02/2011 1:02:44 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: HorowitzianConservative

If you read the whole article, LOTS of stuff in there many freepers will disagree with.


6 posted on 01/02/2011 1:03:09 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: HorowitzianConservative
the Judeo-Christian worldview is the product of Western history that extends back through the mists of time to ages when there were neither Jews or Christians.

An odd statement. This takes us back a good deal more than 3000 years, and I'm unclear what historical continuity he could be referencing.

7 posted on 01/02/2011 1:07:17 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Mandingo Conservative

I suspect number of clicks is the reason almost every article is now about the ten (or four, six, etc.) of something.

Gets very old as a format, even when the article covers good material. Not every topic lends itself to David Letterman’s Top 10.


8 posted on 01/02/2011 1:10:21 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
"If you read the whole article, LOTS of stuff in there many freepers will disagree with."

Yup. He'd be fast friends with Rove. Our problem isn't that we didn't produce enough conservative artists. The problem is that conservatives didn't raise enough hell often enough since they always believed that the system would correct itself and things would be OK over the longer term. Big mistake.

9 posted on 01/02/2011 1:15:15 PM PST by Rashputin (Barry is totally insane and being kept medicated and on golf courses to hide the fact)
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To: HorowitzianConservative

George Soros new organization to go after Tea Party.

http://www.teapartytracker.org/blog_entry/video-racist-elements-within-the-tea-party1


10 posted on 01/02/2011 1:20:07 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Sherman Logan

I don’t think it is odd. It is that search for Truth and Light.....That need to worship and thank “god” is evident throughout all written history of Western Civ and in all myth and even caveman art.

Knowing that there is a spiritual and moral element to man (differentiated from all other forms of life) was always very evident throughout Western Civilization.


11 posted on 01/02/2011 1:20:52 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: HorowitzianConservative; Sherman Logan
HC, Your guy is a little too loopy.

The Sikh community is in many ways socially conservative, and is increasingly under attack by Muslims in our cities. They understand the dangers of jihad, but have we reached out to them? Hate crimes against Jews have spiked in NYC but I have seen little social conservative outreach to the Jews of New York.

In Queens, conservative Dan Halloran was the target of a smear campaign by the Village Voice‘s Steven Thrasher (who even implied I was a neo-Nazi after a lengthy interview with me). The attacks concerned Halloran’s religion – Theodism – and were authored by his Democratic opponent. While local conservatives defended Halloran, Christian conservatives have remained unwilling to defend the ever growing Right-leaning Pagan community from attacks on their religious freedom.

Hindus are an increasingly active part of the anti-jihad movement online and share many of the values one expects of good people of faith, but when was the last time social conservatives made an effort to reach out to American Hindus?

For starters, do you really have to spell all this out? Do you really have to make a special point of going out of your way publicly to embrace all sorts of (non-Muslim) religions by name? Can't it just be taken for granted that decent people of all religions will stand together for what's right? Maybe I'm not phrasing this right, but there's something about his appeal that leaves me cold.

And secondly, if you're a political candidate who reenacts German army battles or revives ancient German pagan religion, you're going to have trouble (especially in New York). You may be a wonderful person, the salt of the earth, but people are going to look at you funny and ask "Why?" and most other people aren't going to take the trouble to defend you. Sorry, but that's just the way it is, and I don't lose sleep over it.

12 posted on 01/02/2011 1:23:31 PM PST by x
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To: HorowitzianConservative

Political Correctness was the start of the downfall. IMHO.


13 posted on 01/02/2011 1:32:55 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: savagesusie

The oddity is the reference to “before Judaism.” 3000-3500 years ago is a long time, and I know of nothing prior to Judaism or classical Greek civilization that is identifiably Western in any way.

What is identifiably “western” about Egypt, Sumeria or the Indus civilization? What other pre-Judaic civilization or society is he referencing?


14 posted on 01/02/2011 1:39:42 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: x
Do you really have to make a special point of going out of your way publicly to embrace all sorts of (non-Muslim) religions by name? Can't it just be taken for granted that decent people of all religions will stand together for what's right?

When leftists are telling the people of these other faiths that social conservatives hate them because they're not Christians, maybe it is necessary to let them know otherwise. Given some of the intra-Christian brawls around here, I'm not sure the leftists aren't right about some conservatives.

If you obviously despise Catholics or Protestants or Mormons, it is not unreasonable for a Sikh to feel a little unwelcome.

15 posted on 01/02/2011 1:43:22 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: HorowitzianConservative
Pitching another log on the fire:

Yet we continue to associate with neo-confederates and “southern nationalists” who are one step removed from Klansmen. I still run into people who defend the Council of Conservative Citizens, a racist Falangist group that not only openly supports racist beliefs but maintains links to White Nationalist sites on its Web page. Some of the Internet’s most popular “conservatives” are members of neo-Confederacy groups and the radical Libertarian fringe, exemplified by sites like LewRockwell.com, are so openly anti-Semitic and racist that they are supported by National Socialists and Islamists.

16 posted on 01/02/2011 1:46:35 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Don Corleone
Political Correctness was the start of the downfall. IMHO.

Agreed. Tagline.

17 posted on 01/02/2011 1:58:42 PM PST by DWar ("The ultimate destination of Political Correctness is totalitarianism.")
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To: HorowitzianConservative

For being so understanding of Marxist ideology, David Horowitz seems so acceptive of homosexuality and “civil unions”. To validate that behavior by government is to turn the Bible into hate speech and make it meaningless.

The homosexual movement was infiltrated by the Marxists, exactly as the feminists and unions and Black Panthers were—all to take down the family and Christianity—the two pillars of Western Civ. I know David knows all about Lukacs, Gramsci and Marcuse—so why is he so blind about what elevation and forced approval and reeducation means for all in society—to force people to accept some behavior as “good” which contradicts and belittles the Bible and destroys absolute values. This is a fundament assault on the freedom of religion and freedom of conscious. We are talking about behaviors that go against nature. It is not genetic. It is culturally-transmitted behavior (Afghanistan, Thailand, Ancient Japan, Ancient Rome and Greece).

It is one of the Communist goals—to make all sexual perversions acceptable. Why? Because it will destroy Christianity and the family—two main pariahs of Marx. The homosexual act is sexual immorality which is always the most damaging to all relationships and everywhere it has been acceptable, pederasty is rampant. Sins of the flesh destroy cultures faster than any other evil. Rome and Greece and Germany are the most blatant examples, of cultures that imploded, because of lack of sexual morality. Depravity to other humans always occur when one treats one’s own body in demeaning, destructive ways. No good ever comes out of it.

I know David did not write this article....but this respect given to civil unions is a mainstay on his site and it is the one area where he seems so naive.
I raised four boys and a daughter and worked with hundreds of young children, and understand how important ideas are to sexual identity in formative years. He seems to want a pagan paradigm or a Rohm-one for children which is so destructive to developing worldview and future of society. Marxists understand just how important culture is to shape the developing minds of boys. It is really quite sickening for all who have worked with young children for decades and Horowitz and “enlightened” men like him need to wake up or are they actually trying to enable rampant pederasty and sexual immorality, again, like raged in the SS and Weimar Republic and Ancient Greece and Rome.

Sin is always destructive, not only to oneself, but to the culture. To have government promote it, marginalizes what made Western Civ so great for the last 2000 years under the Christian paradigm, and drags it back to the pagan one. That is why welfare is so destructive, it rewards sin and therefore, destroys family and relationships.

Elimination of slavery, elevation of women, and equality and dignity for all is because of the Christian paradigm and the Old Testament.

Why? Because of the Laws of Nature and Nature’s God which are aligned to all Christian belief. Marx denies that which is obvious for the happiness of man. Homosexual acts are part of nihilism and “Culture of Death” and have no place in a country which was based on Locke’s Natural Law Theory and proven to be the best hope for a civil society in the history of mankind.


18 posted on 01/02/2011 2:16:25 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: freekitty

These morons keep going after the Tea Party like it was a real entity. “Getting” the Tea Party is like punching the wind in the nose.


19 posted on 01/02/2011 2:16:41 PM PST by Hardastarboard (Bringing children to America without immigration documents is child abuse. Let's end it.)
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To: Mandingo Conservative

It’s not every single paragraph, it’s for the next post in the collection. If you want it all on one page then click “print this post.”


20 posted on 01/02/2011 2:34:27 PM PST by HorowitzianConservative
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To: Mandingo Conservative

It’s not every single paragraph, it’s for the next post in the collection. If you want it all on one page then click “print this post.”


21 posted on 01/02/2011 2:35:08 PM PST by HorowitzianConservative
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To: Hardastarboard

I agree


22 posted on 01/02/2011 2:37:04 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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For those with a short attention span:
7. Art
6. Abolitionism
5. Our Hunting Heritage
4. Feminism
3. Racism
2. Interfaith Dialogue
1. Law and Order


23 posted on 01/02/2011 2:40:19 PM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: Don Corleone
"Political Correctness was the start of the downfall."
I will disagree with you here...PC is a result of the downfall. The downfall started with people that, when could not get everylittledamnthing out of a candidate they wanted, just stayed home. Most of the people in this group are your socialist conservative, or as I call them, the "I'm taking my toys and going home" republicans...
24 posted on 01/02/2011 3:09:40 PM PST by joe fonebone (The House has oversight of the Judiciary...why are the rogue judges not being impeached?)
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To: Sherman Logan

All cultures and ideas are built on previous ones, whether the art in prehistoric cave, the invention of fire, the formation of clans and kinship, the wheel, the use of steel. These had no identifiable Western attributes or led toward the Western canon of thought or the development of a “more identifiable Western idea”? Hammurabi’s code of law had profound effect on Western Thought.

Are you saying there were no Greeks or Romans in Egypt, Sumeria or the Indus valley or that they were isolated from all Western areas so their ideas and cultures had no effect on Western Thought?

This infusion of cultures is well-established throughout the historical record of art throughout the ages—even in prehistoric art. To say something is not “Western” because it is primitive, is saying that there was never an origin of Western Civilization and it just appeared fully-formed one day.


25 posted on 01/02/2011 3:12:04 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: Repeal The 17th
Fascinating that he defends Theodism, makeshift Anglo-Heathen claptrap --- so phony it makes Kwanzaa look respectable.
26 posted on 01/02/2011 3:16:05 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (God has set a limit on man's intelligence, but none on his stupidity.)
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To: savagesusie

The author spoke of “western thought” not in absolute terms, but rather in contrast to other civilizations or modes of thought.

Western civ is a hybrid civilization born of classical (Greek) and Judeo-Christian (Biblical) parents. It came into existence, in any identifiable way, when these fused during late antiquity and the early Middle Ages.

Its two parent civilizations went back another 1500 years or so, but were almost completely separate during most of this period, having very little influence on each other.

Prior to that, while obviously civilizations existed from which western civ drew much, I fail to see how they can be said to BE western civ, as opposed to some other civilization. Their contributions are part of the common stock of all civilizations, not uniquie to or specifically associated with western civ.

Sorry if I’m explaining my thoughts poorly.


27 posted on 01/02/2011 3:31:20 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Rashputin

The article is actually a museum quality piece of what is wrong with a significant segment of those who call themselves conservatives. Although it is possible to agree with some of what the author says, the weakness is mostly in the underlying presuppositions.


28 posted on 01/02/2011 3:53:28 PM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I’m not sure the author intended to defend Theodism. Rather I think he was trying to point out that rejecting potential allies because they don’t agree with us on all points is not wise strategy.

Not that Theodism, Asatru, Wicca and the other neo-pagan religions aren’t remarkably silly.


29 posted on 01/02/2011 3:58:53 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

OK. It would function as a more-than-faint warning buzzer for me, though.


30 posted on 01/02/2011 4:05:42 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Me transmitte sursum, Caledoni! (Beam me up, Scotty.))
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To: HorowitzianConservative

This is consistent with with Nancy Pearcey’s new book, Saving Leonardo!


31 posted on 01/02/2011 4:20:18 PM PST by LiteKeeper ("Psalm 109:8")
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To: Sherman Logan

Oh, I know what you are talking about—just giving you a hard time.

I think historical experts are changing their theories on the cradle of civilization as I type, so I think it is hard to do anything but present a hypothesis about history which is quite debatable.

Since the lack of records in prehistorical time, much about history is “shaped” by the anthropologists who I have little regard for....That’s just me who had some interaction with some of the Marxists in college, who have little regard for truth and history. Progressives have a habit of making facts fit into their little sociological, evolutionary boxes, and I can’t be anything but a skeptic and ask—why do they do what they do?

It is this Postmodern cr*p that comes out in me sometimes. I can’t help it. LOL


32 posted on 01/02/2011 5:02:13 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: HorowitzianConservative

I’m ambivalent on this Rob Taylor guy.

He understands the issues of culture war but with a younger person’s sorta new conservative slant...especially on race.

In any event, better than nothing.

There is a distinct age bridge between white southerners of my age group and younger conservatives...especially from outside the Deep South on these issues.

They just know what they know and it’s limited compared to my experience.

We have a lot of that here on conservatism and race...it’s an appropriation not based on reality


33 posted on 01/03/2011 8:20:03 AM PST by wardaddy ("Out Here" by Josh Thompson pretty much says it all to those who will never understand anyhow)
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To: x

Halloran was elected to the City Council in a district with a large Jewish and Korean Protestant population, ironically.


34 posted on 01/03/2011 6:04:04 PM PST by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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