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Green skeletons lurk in GOP closets (Romney, Huckster, Palin, Pawlenty, Gingrich, Boehner, Bush)
Politico via SeattlePI.com ^ | 2011-01-02

Posted on 01/02/2011 6:21:09 PM PST by rabscuttle385

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Dig long enough and just about every Republican has a green skeleton in their closet. Many of them have their last presidential nominee, Arizona Sen. John McCain, a longtime cap-and-trade enthusiast, to thank for it.

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"I support a reasonable cap-and-trade system," [Pawlenty] said. "I think it'd be good for the federal government to take that up rather than have states take it up as clusters of regions."

Huckabee, the former Arkansas governor, appealed to a New Hampshire audience in October 2007 on moral grounds by saying he backed a cap-and-trade system to reduce greenhouse gases and faulted the Senate for its unsuccessful efforts to pass legislation.

Even Sarah Palin has a YouTube moment. Just days after McCain picked her as his running mate, Palin told ABC News she believes human activities "certainly can be contributing to the issue of global warming, climate change" and that "we've got to do something about it, and we have to make sure that we're doing all we can to cut down on pollution."

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Romney worked for two years as Massachusetts governor to cap greenhouse gases from power plants as part of a regional pact.

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"I believe that climate change is occurring – the reduction in the size of global ice caps is hard to ignore," Romney wrote in his 2010 book "No Apologies: The Case for American Greatness." "I also believe that human activity is a contributing factor."

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich may have the hardest job explaining himself thanks to a 2008 TV commercial sponsored by Gore's Repower America campaign. Gingrich and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) sit on a couch outside the Capitol and declare that while they don't often agree on issues, "we do agree our country must take action to address climate change."

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Dig long enough and just about every Republican has a green skeleton in their closet. Many of them have their last presidential nominee, Arizona Sen. John McCain, a longtime cap-and-trade enthusiast, to thank for it.


1 posted on 01/02/2011 6:21:16 PM PST by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385

Newt and Nancy sitting in a tree (couch).....


2 posted on 01/02/2011 6:23:45 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: upchuck
"If we go too far and we basically belittle those who believe the air should be cleaner when it comes to carbon pollution, then we risk alienating younger voters," Graham said.

Fool. You're already alienating this young voter.

3 posted on 01/02/2011 6:26:10 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385

I heard Norm Coleman on Foxnews today saying that he wants to do something about carbon emissions. At first, I was nonplussed, but then he got specific: He wants to let nuclear power off the leash. And he pointed the finger at the Dems for blocking it. That’s a start, at least.


4 posted on 01/02/2011 6:35:02 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: rabscuttle385

You left out what Gov. Palin said.

“Palin – who has since referred to global warming
as “snake oil science”


5 posted on 01/02/2011 6:36:39 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: rabscuttle385
Would be nice if some of these idiots took an eighth grade science course ... (they are all old enough to have had some schooling before the commies took over the whole educational system).....AND had the guts to value truth over power.
6 posted on 01/02/2011 6:39:34 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: rabscuttle385

You won’t find many people speaking up for pollution.

The thing of it is, the modern power plants now put out almost no pollution at all. So what did they do? They moved the bar. Now its not pollution they fret about, since there isn’t any, its “carbon”. Which is to say, plant food. Since everything we ever do emits plant food, the mobsters are going to figure a way to get a payday everytime you do anything that emits CO2. Like breathe.

A few people fell for it, either thanks to the round-the-clock propaganda. And a few fell for it because they were figuring how to get a piece of the action. And a few were smart enough to have never fallen for it (probably they were secret freepers).


7 posted on 01/02/2011 6:42:33 PM PST by marron
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To: Diogenesis

Re #5:

So let me get this straight. If a politician says something one day and says something different the next it’s okay? Or does that rule apply only to Sarah Palin?


8 posted on 01/02/2011 6:42:55 PM PST by Artemis Webb (What, if not a bagel and coffee, confirms the existence of a just and loving God?)
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To: Brilliant
I agree that that's a “good start” by Coleman. Unfortunately he doesn't have a vote.
9 posted on 01/02/2011 6:44:57 PM PST by Artemis Webb (What, if not a bagel and coffee, confirms the existence of a just and loving God?)
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To: rabscuttle385
Alternatively I suppose you could campaign for Recombinant DNA work be done to enable human beings to be able to breath AND use more carbon!

Bwahahahahahaha!

Now that'd be progressive eh!

10 posted on 01/02/2011 6:47:24 PM PST by muawiyah (Hey,)
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To: Artemis Webb

Great question.


11 posted on 01/02/2011 6:48:11 PM PST by FTJM
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To: rabscuttle385

The whole frikkin lot of them stink on immigration too.


12 posted on 01/02/2011 6:48:44 PM PST by dforest
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To: Artemis Webb

Please enlighten us, dear FRiend, where Gov. Palin
said something one day and something different the next.

The article says (and the source is DNC and RINOs)
“Just days after McCain picked her as his running mate, Palin told ABC News she believes human activities
“certainly can be contributing to the issue of global warming, climate change” and that “we’ve got to do
something about it, and we have to make sure that
we’re doing all we can to cut down on pollution.”

Notice Gov. Palin did NOT contradict what I posted
and what she said later. Notice she said “CAN BE
CONTRIBUTING” and not “is the cause of”. So Gov.Palin
was accurate and did not contradict herself.

So why did you say she did?


13 posted on 01/02/2011 6:51:00 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Artemis Webb
Just like Reagan,Sarah Palin had her liberal flings but now,like Reagan,she is a solid conservative Juggernaut.

The Left and RINOS will have to learn about Sarah Palin the way they learned about the Gipper--the hard way.

14 posted on 01/02/2011 6:51:32 PM PST by Happy Rain
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To: indylindy

To all

All this proves is for too long we have let ourselves be governed by idiots!


15 posted on 01/02/2011 6:51:43 PM PST by Reily
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To: Artemis Webb; Jim Robinson; ConjunctionJunction; Al B.; SolidWood; Leisler; greyfoxx39; ...

Please enlighten us, dear FRiend, where Gov. Palin
said something one day and something different the next.

The article says (and the source is DNC and RINOs)
“Just days after McCain picked her as his running mate, Palin told ABC News she believes human activities
“certainly can be contributing to the issue of global warming, climate change” and that “we’ve got to do
something about it, and we have to make sure that
we’re doing all we can to cut down on pollution.”

Notice Gov. Palin did NOT contradict what I posted
and what she said later. Notice she said “CAN BE
CONTRIBUTING” and not “is the cause of”. So Gov.Palin
was accurate and did not contradict herself.

So why did you say she did?


16 posted on 01/02/2011 6:52:26 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Artemis Webb

Name one politician that hasn’t? The question is, are they having a sincere change of mind, or are the two quotes taken out of context and appear to contradict when they actually don’t, or are they just blowing with the wind to get elected.

I don’t doubt Palin’s sincerity at all, she has a history of great integrity, the others listed, well they have a long history of blowing with the wind, especially mittens.


17 posted on 01/02/2011 6:54:15 PM PST by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Diogenesis
"So why did you say..."

Because I based it on what you wrote in #5. Which really begs the question, "Why can't Diogenesis write a factual sentence?"

18 posted on 01/02/2011 6:58:26 PM PST by Artemis Webb (What, if not a bagel and coffee, confirms the existence of a just and loving God?)
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To: rabscuttle385

This is a happy development for me, it makes it easier to choose who to give money to.

Anyone that supported this or any Obamacare type laws are off my donation list.


19 posted on 01/02/2011 6:59:46 PM PST by dila813
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To: Happy Rain

Reagan never had a “liberal fling”. Back when Reagan was a Democrat the Dems were not the party of the left.


20 posted on 01/02/2011 6:59:58 PM PST by Artemis Webb (What, if not a bagel and coffee, confirms the existence of a just and loving God?)
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To: Diogenesis

ROFLMAO!

Just noticed your ping list on #16. You’re funny!!!

Lame, hand-wringing and pathetic. But funny.


21 posted on 01/02/2011 7:02:49 PM PST by Artemis Webb (What, if not a bagel and coffee, confirms the existence of a just and loving God?)
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To: Artemis Webb

Oh,Democrats like FDR were not leftists?

Reagan was a Democrat then.

But then most ALL of Hollywood was as well—probably a requirement even then.


22 posted on 01/02/2011 7:11:27 PM PST by Happy Rain
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To: Artemis Webb

Shhh...you’re not supposed to notice.


23 posted on 01/02/2011 7:13:52 PM PST by truthkeeper ( God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy.)
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To: Happy Rain

No FDR was not a “leftist”. Not as we know it today. FDR loved his country (unlike the left) and honestly thought New Deal programs would solve legitimate problems the country had. Indeed in the short term they did. Long term they were a disaster made far, far worse by LBJ’s Great Society. Hindsight is 20/20 though and I’m not going to call FDR a leftist. Reagan, when he was president, called FDR the greatest president of his lifetime. Don’t like it? Take it up with President Reagan.


24 posted on 01/02/2011 7:16:34 PM PST by Artemis Webb (What, if not a bagel and coffee, confirms the existence of a just and loving God?)
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To: Diogenesis

Palin’s response to Gwen Ifill’s question on carbon caps in the VP debate is more indicative of Palin’s flip flop on cap and tax than the quotes in the article cited here.

Palin was for carbon caps before she was against them.


25 posted on 01/02/2011 7:19:17 PM PST by Padams
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To: Artemis Webb
No FDR was not a “leftist”.

Please. FDR had a damned Communist as a running-mate.

26 posted on 01/02/2011 7:22:50 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: Artemis Webb

LOL, nailed it!!!!


27 posted on 01/02/2011 7:29:03 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: Artemis Webb

Sorry Pal, but FDR tried to pack the Supreme Court with Liberal Judges to circumvent the legislature.

This man heaped the beginnings of socialism on this country. So please spare us the “FDR loved his country...” crap.


28 posted on 01/02/2011 7:29:35 PM PST by Artcore
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To: Artemis Webb

LOL, nailed it!!!!


29 posted on 01/02/2011 7:32:27 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: Artemis Webb

What Palin said is not enough to convict her of globalwarmingism. To do that, you’d need a lot more than a single ambiguous statement. And some policy evidence.

The purpose of this entire article is to try to discredit Palin in the eyes of conservatives by making up more lies.

Not working.


30 posted on 01/02/2011 7:38:10 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Rules will never work for radicals (liberals) because they seek chaos. And don't even know it.)
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To: Artemis Webb
PDS?

Just days after McCain picked her as his running mate, Palin told ABC News she believes human activities "certainly can be contributing to the issue of global warming, climate change" and that "we've got to do something about it, and we have to make sure that we're doing all we can to cut down on pollution."

So let me get this straight. If a politician says something one day and says something different the next it’s okay? Or does that rule apply only to Sarah Palin?
Nice try.
We knew the bottom line . . . was ultimately to shut down a lot of our development. And it didn’t make any sense because it was based on these global warming studies that now we’re seeing (is) a bunch of snake oil science.

31 posted on 01/02/2011 7:47:36 PM PST by lewislynn ( What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in commom? Misinformation)
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To: Artemis Webb
...and honestly thought New Deal programs would solve legitimate problems the country had.

Utter BS. FDR and his leftist advisors saw a path to ever increasing government dependence ensuring their political power for generations.

32 posted on 01/02/2011 7:52:40 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: lewislynn
"PDS?"

That's funny but the argument that any criticism of Sarah Palin is "PDS" is getting more than a bit old. Sorry to tell you this but she is not God and if she deserves criticism she's going to get it. Unless of course you think she is God?

33 posted on 01/02/2011 8:00:41 PM PST by Artemis Webb (What, if not a bagel and coffee, confirms the existence of a just and loving God?)
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To: Artemis Webb
If a politician says something one day and says something different the next it’s okay?

It COULD be; if they then don't turn around and repeat what they said the FIRST day!

34 posted on 01/02/2011 8:06:46 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Artemis Webb

You were shown on this thread by several FReepers
as having been disingenuous on this matter.

In return, you have been evasive, in many ways,
but never answer.

YOU have PDS, FRiend.


35 posted on 01/02/2011 8:10:23 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Diogenesis

YOU have refused to answer MY questions FRiend !
By the way, how’s that #16 ping list going for ya?
Not so good huh?


36 posted on 01/02/2011 8:14:53 PM PST by Artemis Webb (What, if not a bagel and coffee, confirms the existence of a just and loving God?)
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To: Diogenesis

poor baby.


37 posted on 01/02/2011 8:15:31 PM PST by Artemis Webb (What, if not a bagel and coffee, confirms the existence of a just and loving God?)
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To: Diogenesis
“Palin – who has since referred to global warming as “snake oil science”

Yes! I loved her for that! She also is quoted in the article as saying something I wholeheartedly agree with: " ... we have to make sure that we're doing all we can to cut down on pollution."

Like all other living things on this earth, we have an impact on our environment just by being here, stone-age or industrial. Third-world people live in their own mess. First-world people clean up after themselves.

38 posted on 01/02/2011 8:23:05 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: rabscuttle385

From http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5778018&page=1

“Do you still believe that global warming is not man made?” Gibson asked Palin.

“I believe that man’s activities certainly can be contributing to the issue of global warming, climate change. Here in Alaska, the only arctic state in our Union, of course, we see the effects of climate change more so than any other area with ice pack melting. Regardless though of the reason for climate change, whether it’s entirely, wholly caused by man’s activities or is part of the cyclical nature of our planet — the warming and the cooling trends — regardless of that, John McCain and I agree that we gotta do something about it and we have to make sure that we’re doing all we can to cut down on pollution.”

An entire contextual quote is usually more informative than a selective one. This is hardly a rousing endorsement of global warming and certainly not one of Gore’s carbon credit scheme or of cap and trade.


39 posted on 01/02/2011 9:43:00 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: rabscuttle385
Nancy Pelosi and Newt Gingrich Agree on Climate Change : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-NIbZXNRns

Sarah Palin agreeing with Katie Couric that global warming is real: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2IVytlHDcY

Mike Huckabee supporting 'cap and trade': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yt3Q_98hl4

Mitt Romney supporting 'cap and trade': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnryDuV9_SI

Tim Pawlenty on Glenn Beck's show supporting cap and trade: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP7EnZaRYVY

Ron Paul on Fox Business: Global Warming is a Hoax: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCc5Gk1nops

Whoops, how'd that last one get in there?

40 posted on 01/02/2011 10:01:29 PM PST by speciallybland
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To: rabscuttle385
carbon pollution

Parroting a nonsense phrase to show he has no clue.

41 posted on 01/03/2011 2:38:14 AM PST by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: Artemis Webb

I’m not on it, so I must be irrelevant.


42 posted on 01/03/2011 2:41:03 AM PST by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: skr
we have to make sure that we’re doing all we can to cut down on pollution.

I would have preferred if she said conserve resources or save resources. "Carbon" is not pollution by any stretch of the imagination.

43 posted on 01/03/2011 2:43:31 AM PST by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: rabscuttle385; enough_idiocy; meyer; Normandy; Whenifhow; TenthAmendmentChampion; Clive; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

44 posted on 01/03/2011 3:26:56 AM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: Diogenesis

Conveniently, she said that after Climate Gate hit the newspapers. The question is why did she beleive in algore’s fairytale before that?


45 posted on 01/03/2011 8:05:32 AM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Diogenesis; Artemis Webb

Well, she is for carbon caps, that’s bad enough. She is a confused mess.


46 posted on 01/03/2011 8:07:25 AM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: rabscuttle385

Lessee, the PI, a very left wing defunct rag in Seattle, providing a Politico (wholly owned subsidiary of the Washington Post) story.

Clearly their aim is to create unity and satisfaction among conservatives, right ?

And we can believe everything they say, right ?


47 posted on 01/03/2011 8:12:23 AM PST by jimt
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To: pissant
You're the only confused mess I see...

Thanks for reminding me to post a response to your nonsensical bull feces/gibbersih!

Elect Sarah Palin for President 2012

Re-Elect President Sarah Palin 2016

48 posted on 01/03/2011 8:36:29 AM PST by WVKayaker (Faith makes the discords of the present become the harmonies of the future - Robert Collyer)
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To: WVKayaker

If you want to vote for someone who believes in capping carbon emissions, that’s your problem. But since you ignore or support the rest of her liberal positions as well, I’m sure that won’t change your mind.


49 posted on 01/03/2011 8:42:53 AM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: speciallybland

My guess is that Ron Paul is probably about the only politician that hasn’t endorsed cap-and-tax at some point. Maybe his son, as well.

I’d say the knock on Sarah Palin is a bit unfair, though, as the quotes in question come from the period when she was the Vice Presidential candidate and could not contradict McCain on any issue of significance.


50 posted on 01/03/2011 8:43:36 AM PST by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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