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Judge Who Ordered Euthanasia of Terri Schiavo Retires
LifeNews.com ^ | January 3, 2011 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 01/03/2011 10:37:07 AM PST by julieee

Judge Who Ordered Euthanasia of Terri Schiavo Retires

St. Petersburg, FL -- The Florida state judge who allowed the former husband of disabled patient Terri Schiavo to take her life by depriving her of food and water, has retired from the bench.

http://www.lifenews.com/2011/01/03/judge-who-ordered-euthanasia-of-terri-schiavo-retires

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: euthanasia; goodriddance; greer; judge; judicialhomicide; prolife; retires; terrischiavo
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1 posted on 01/03/2011 10:37:11 AM PST by julieee
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To: julieee

This will help move him to the front of the line for the Death Panel.


2 posted on 01/03/2011 10:39:03 AM PST by chopperman
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To: julieee

The first sentence belies the headline. The judge ordered that the husband be allowed to decide. If he’d decided to keep her on life support she would have been kept on life support.


3 posted on 01/03/2011 10:39:04 AM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

Um, last time I checked, food & water are not LIFE SUPPORT!!!

This case was beyond ridiculous & anyone who couldn’t see an agenda here was either stupid & willfully ignorant. This judge even denied her ice chips & mouth swabs. Inhumane would be putting it gently.


4 posted on 01/03/2011 10:41:45 AM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: julieee

Good RIDDANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!


5 posted on 01/03/2011 10:42:29 AM PST by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: julieee

Will he be denied food and water?


6 posted on 01/03/2011 10:43:03 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: julieee

Why not euthanize him?


7 posted on 01/03/2011 10:43:34 AM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: DManA

Actually, the court took control and took it out of the hands of the “husband in name only,” ordering her not to be hydrated — a death sentence.

What was her crime?


8 posted on 01/03/2011 10:43:45 AM PST by srweaver (Never Forget the Judicial Homicide of Terri Schiavo)
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To: julieee
About the only good thing to come out of this affair: The judge was booted out of his local Baptist Church because of his ruling. He voted for murder; his congregation voted for Christ.
9 posted on 01/03/2011 10:44:44 AM PST by Zakeet (Always trust in the five G's: God, Gold, Guns, Grub, and the Government screwing up)
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To: DManA
The judge ordered that the husband be allowed to decide. If he’d decided to keep her on life support she would have been kept on life support.

The parents pleaded with the husband to let them take custody of her. He refused and opted for her death anyway. When he leaves this world, he will have some serious 'splain' to do... as will that judge.

10 posted on 01/03/2011 10:44:47 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: ScottinVA

‘splain’ = ‘splainin’


11 posted on 01/03/2011 10:45:33 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Dunno, but he will not be denied Hell


12 posted on 01/03/2011 10:49:47 AM PST by bigbob (.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

One of the brothers Bush’s biggest failures. That case empowered ABCCBSCNNNBC/AP and they haven’t let up on America since. Greer is the worst political whore, took campaign $$ from Mr. Schiavo.


13 posted on 01/03/2011 10:49:56 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: treetopsandroofs

You’re absolutely right. This guy was bought & paid for. Too bad for him he sold himself to the Devil.


14 posted on 01/03/2011 10:51:53 AM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: julieee
Remembering Terri Schiavo
15 posted on 01/03/2011 10:53:34 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (I'm with Jim DeMint ... on the fringe!)
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To: julieee; wagglebee

Isn’t this “judge” legally blind? If there is any justice in this world, he will spend his last days in a Sun Coast “hospice” where his next of kin will decide he wouldn’t want to live that way.


16 posted on 01/03/2011 10:53:58 AM PST by MestaMachine (islam - Hostis hvmani generis - Enemy of the human race)
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To: julieee

Retirement isn’t good enough. He, the lawyer and the husband are all murderers. Ol’ Sparky would be just about right.


17 posted on 01/03/2011 10:56:18 AM PST by DPMD (~)
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To: chopperman
This will help move him to the front of the line for the Death Panel.

Karma.

18 posted on 01/03/2011 10:56:29 AM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: julieee

“Schiavo’s case became and international debate over the treatment of people who are medically incapacitated and it say Circuit Court Judge Greer

Greer said in an interview with the St. Petersburg Times that he feared for his life because of the outpouring of opposition to his decision allowing Michael Schiavo to take Terri’s life.

“I wore a bulletproof vest for months,” Greer said. About defending himself in public, he said, “I knew I couldn’t. Was it hard? Yeah, it was hard, but I knew I couldn’t.”

“Judges are not supposed to get down in the pits and duke it out,” Greer added in the newspaper interview. “We’re not only supposed to be impartial, we’re supposed to give the appearance of impartiality.”

“It was absolute hell, it truly was — we were captive in our own home,” his wife Patricia added, saying the couple once received a delivery of dead flowers. “I opened the card and it said: ‘no food, no water.’”

On four occasions Greer refused to take himself off the case despite links to attorneys for Michael Schiavo. He faced a Congress, state legislature, and president in George W. Bush who did everything in their power to assist Terri’s family in their bid to provide her with appropriate medical treatment, rehabilitative care and to prevent what ultimately became a 13-day starvation and dehydration death.

Bobby Schindler, Terri Schiavo’s brother, released a statement about Greer’s retirement.

“There are many in the legal community that will be honoring Judge Greer for his many years of judicial service,” he said.

Related Links

* Terri Schiavo Life & Hope Network

“However, for our family, and the millions of people that supported Terri worldwide, Judge Greer’s decision to deliberately starve and dehydrate her to death –based largely on hearsay testimony — is anything but honorable. Terri was denied the most basic of rights –right that our laws are intended to protect: life and liberty,” he said.

“Indeed, it is because of Judge Greer that our family formed the Terri Schiavo Life & Hope Network, an organization that now fights for those brain-injured persons like Terri, so their individual rights can be protected from similar judges, who see no value in the lives of those who need only our love and compassion,” he added.

After the decision, Greer traveled the lecture circuit, which upset Terri’s family further. He spoke at a national summit concerning jury trials, even though he unilaterally allowed the taking of Terri’s life without a jury deliberation.

Greer was also a featured speaker at Loyola Law School Los Angeles, where he instructed members of the mainstream media in how to report on significant legal stories like the battle over Terri’s life. Greer also previously came under fire for speaking engagements at a bioethics forum at the University of Pennsylvania and a local Bar Association event in Florida.

Terri reportedly said before she died that she wanted to live.”

Considering he had 4 opportunities to remove himself from the case which makes the case that he actually WANTED to do it - innotsodoing he made himself the victim. He probably got millions on the speech circuit.

This man makes me sick to my stomach.


19 posted on 01/03/2011 10:57:01 AM PST by bronxville
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To: DManA

What, then, gave the orders to the medical staff to kill Terri by starvation and thirst, the force of law?

He’s a murderer, same as Manson.


20 posted on 01/03/2011 10:59:10 AM PST by DPMD (~)
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To: julieee
When the Judge meets Lucifer, He will find out how it feels to have his water removed. . . . . .
I am so thirsty . . . . . . .
21 posted on 01/03/2011 11:00:40 AM PST by DeaconRed (Everything IS Broken. . . . MSM won't report it. . . . The community organizer can't fix it.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

This judge even denied her ice chips & mouth swabs. Inhumane would be putting it gently.

It is easier to go without food than water - I have fasted for days in the past. But, to go without water is something very painful. I hope the judge has long hours of leisure time filled with the picture of a dying woman deprived of food and water until her eventual death and hearing the screams for help within her mind. I still grieve for her. God have mercy on those who thought that was a humane act.


22 posted on 01/03/2011 11:09:07 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: DManA

The court order that denies food and water, by any means, to Terri Schiavo:

http://libertytothecaptives.net/greer_deniesf&w_bymouth.html

Only the would be murderer (who achieved his goal), the “husband” who was living with and fathering children with another woman, was allowed to make decisions whether Terri was to receive food and water.

Greer’s court order violated both Florida statutes and constitutional guarantees of life and liberty. Hence my tagline.

Some further analysis:

http://libertytothecaptives.net/greer_doublespeak.html


23 posted on 01/03/2011 11:15:58 AM PST by srweaver (Never Forget the Judicial Homicide of Terri Schiavo)
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To: julieee

I was living in Japan then. I remember harboring hopes that people would take matters into their own hands, removing her from the hospital to a secret location and keeping her alive.

Using whatever degree of force was necessary.


24 posted on 01/03/2011 11:17:35 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: bronxville

“I wore a bulletproof vest for months,” Greer said.”

And did anybody take a shot at him?

A drama queen and a killer. Great combo.


25 posted on 01/03/2011 11:19:43 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: DManA
Another chief doubt distinguishing the contentious tussle over Terri's life from a clear-cut, right-to-die case is whether she remains in a persistent vegetative state, or PVS, which is one of the conditions necessary under Florida law to legally permit the removal of her feeding tube.

Serendipitously, the Florida law governing end-of-life care was revised, effective Oct. 1, 1999, to the benefit of Michael Schiavo's petition to remove Terri Schiavo's feeding tube. Prior to this date, it was necessary for two physicians to determine the patient had a "terminal condition" from which there is no reasonable probability of recovery in order to withhold or withdraw their life-prolonging procedures.

The revised law now allowed two physicians to deem the patient is in an end-stage condition and/or a persistent vegetative state, or PVS.

Four short months after the revamped law took effect, Greer ruled in February 2000 that Terri Schiavo was in PVS. Her feeding tube was subsequently disconnected for three days in April 2001 before a series of appeals put Greer's order on hold.

In fact, it was this ruling in February of 2000, retroactively applied, that was the basis of Greer's final solution for Terri Schiavo. He refused to consider anything else and irrevocably made up his mind that she should die. Greer, Felos and Schiavo are all guilty of this murder.

26 posted on 01/03/2011 11:19:48 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (I'm with Jim DeMint ... on the fringe!)
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To: DManA; BykrBayb; floriduh voter; Lesforlife; Sun; EternalVigilance
The first sentence belies the headline. The judge ordered that the husband be allowed to decide. If he’d decided to keep her on life support she would have been kept on life support.

Not true.

Greer ordered that Terri be deprived of nutrition and hydration and his orders were carried out at gunpoint.

27 posted on 01/03/2011 11:28:12 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: dsc

It appears there is still too much respect for the “system” here (in this case the court), to take necessary action when it is clearly wrong. The people are waiting for the leaders to act (the executive), and the leaders are too timid to keep their oath to uphold the constitution. If self-government is to survive, then “we the people” are going to have to correct our own government, or replace it, even as did our founders.

It is kind of like a house that was built according to a good plan (three main supports) with a good foundation (self-evident truth and God given rights), but termites have infested the supports making them unsound and unstable, even as those pillars have abandoned their foundation, (God — NOT government — given rights).

If the house called America is to stand, she must return to her foundation, and “we the people” must replace those who constitute the pillars of our government with decent (moral) people who actually believe in and will support and defend God given rights and liberties, NOT erode them through government power grabs.


28 posted on 01/03/2011 11:30:04 AM PST by srweaver (Never Forget the Judicial Homicide of Terri Schiavo)
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To: julieee

You would be thrown in jail for killing a dog or cat the way this creepy judge and the vicious husband murdered Terry.


29 posted on 01/03/2011 11:33:31 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (Character is defined by how we treat those who society says have no value.)
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To: wagglebee
Don't complain to me. Write a letter to LifeNews.com for messing up the story.

The Florida state judge who allowed the former husband of disabled patient Terri Schiavo to take her life

30 posted on 01/03/2011 11:35:07 AM PST by DManA
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To: wagglebee

“Greer ordered that Terri be deprived of nutrition and hydration and his orders were carried out at gunpoint. “

Because Terri’s husband requested that action be taken.


31 posted on 01/03/2011 11:38:10 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: treetopsandroofs
One of the brothers Bush’s biggest failures.

I think they both took extraordinary measures. What else could they have legally done?

32 posted on 01/03/2011 11:40:47 AM PST by Moonman62 (Half of all Americans are above average. Politicians come from the other half.)
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To: DPMD

Concur.


33 posted on 01/03/2011 11:41:18 AM PST by MeganC (January 20, 2013 - President Sarah Palin)
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To: DManA; driftdiver
Okay, I see your point.

Mikey asked Greer to murder Terri and Greer complied. The execution was carried out on Greer's orders, though Mikey could have probably stopped it.

34 posted on 01/03/2011 11:45:15 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Moonman62; treetopsandroofs
Both Bushes had the constitutional authority to take Terri into custody.
35 posted on 01/03/2011 11:46:46 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
Mikey could have probably certainly stopped it.
36 posted on 01/03/2011 11:47:37 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Again, it must be repeated, the court came down on the side of a man who when married to Terri Schiavo, came under suspicion, never disproven, of having caused her initial injury.

He then went on to live with and father children by another woman while still “married” to Terri and relentlessly crusading for her death.

He found a judge who, in violation of the law, ordered natural means to preserve her life (food and water ingested directly through the mouth) not be given, unless given by the man who wanted to end her life without suffering the consequences of murdering her.

You may call him her husband if you wish, I choose not to dignify him with that title based on his actions and the violation of (at least formerly) standard marriage vows.

Both the judge and the “husband in name only” got away with murder for the time being, but will face ultimate judgment for their actions along with the rest of us.


37 posted on 01/03/2011 11:49:03 AM PST by srweaver (Never Forget the Judicial Homicide of Terri Schiavo)
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To: Moonman62

This is a copy of an actual letter I sent to Jeb Bush and others:

GOVERNOR BUSH,
IT IS LONG PAST TIME THAT YOU STOP TRYING TO FOLLOW THE GROUND RULES SET OUT BY THE HEMLOCK SOCIETY, VIA JUDGE GREER. TAKE IT COMPLETELY OUT OF THE CIVIL COURT AND DIRECTLY INTO CRIMINAL COURT.
THERE IS AN EXTREME AMOUNT OF PRIMA FASCIAE EVIDENCE THAT FOUL PLAY HAS OCCURRED HERE...MORE EVIDENCE THAN THE SCOTT PETERSON CASE WHICH WAS ONLY CIRCUMSTANTIAL AND NOT NEARLY AS COMPELLING, BUT HE WAS FOUND GUILTY.
YOU HAVE SWORN AFFIDAVITS, THE TESTIMONY OF PEOPLE WHO KNEW TERRI BOTH BEFORE AND AFTER THE PARENTS MADE THE MISTAKE OF PURSUING CIVIL RESOLUTION, YET YOU ALLOW HER TO REMAIN TRAPPED AND CONTROLLED BY MADMEN.
INITIATE A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION AND SEIZE TERRI SCHIAVO AS EVIDENCE.
GET TERRI OUT OF THE HANDS OF GHOULS WHO ARE TRYING TO MURDER HER INCLUDING THOSE OF THE FLORIDA CIVIL JUDICIARY. CONVENE A CRIMINAL GRAND JURY IMMEDIATELY AND BEGIN THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION THAT IS OF ABSOLUTE NECESSITY OR FLORIDA WILL BE THE STATE FOR WHICH I, AND MANY OTHERS, INTEND TO PURSUE A MOST VIGOROUS BOYCOTT CAMPAIGN.
FLORIDA WILL FOREVER BE KNOWN AS THE *STATE OF DEATH* AND PEOPLE WILL FEAR YOU FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.
THIS IS NOT A CIVIL CASE. IT IS A CRIMINAL CASE AND YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY AS EXECUTIVE TO COMPLETELY CHANGE THE RULES OF THIS HORRIFYING GAME, AS DOES YOUR BROTHER, PRESIDENT BUSH, TO WHOM A COPY OF THIS HAS BEEN SENT AS WELL.
THERE WAS A TIME WHEN IT WAS SAID THAT POLITICS ENDS AT THE WATER’S EDGE. NOW IT IS CLEAR THAT THE SKINNERIST REVOLUTION BEGUN BACK IN THE 20’S IS ONCE AGAIN ON THE RISE GROWING STRONGER BY THE MOMENT. OLD EUROPE IS LOVING THIS AND IF IF THIS IS ALLOWED TO STAND, THE US WILL HAVE FORFEITED ITS OWN RIGHT TO SPEAK TO THE WORLD ON MORAL ISSUES AND THE SANCTITY OF LIFE. IT WILL BE THE UNDOING OF THE CONSTITUTION, AND FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES, THE END OF USA MORAL AUTHORITY.
YOU KNOW THESE ARE MADMEN. YOU KNOW JUDGE GREER WAS ON THE BOARD OF THIS INFAMOUS HOSPICE WHICH IS A COMPLETE CONFLICT OF INTEREST, NOT TO MENTION HIS PAST CORRUPTION WITH VAST CORPORATIONS.
HEARSAY SHOULD NEVER BE ADMISSIBLE IN A COURT OF LAW, HOWEVER, THIS HAS MAINTAINED ITSELF IN THE REALM OF CIVIL LAW BECAUSE OF ONE CORRUPT JUDGE.
TERRI IS EVIDENCE AND SHOULD BE PROTECTED. MANDATORY REHABILITATION SHOULD IMMEDIATELY BE ORDERED, IMMEDIATELY INSTITUTED, AND EVEN IF IT TAKES 10 OR 20 YEARS OF INTENSIVE THERAPY IN SEARCH OF THE TRUTH, THAT SEARCH CAN NOT BE ABROGATED. FURTHER, HER BODY IS EVIDENCE BY ITSELF, EVEN IF SHE CAN NEVER SPEAK, THAT INDEED FOUL PLAY HAS OCCURRED.
GOVERNOR, YOU HAVE THE POWER. THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE US HAS THE POWER.
MAKE IT HAPPEN BEFORE THIS LADY DIES. SUBPOENAS TO APPEAR BEFORE A GRAND JURY COULD BE CALLED FOR AND IN HAND WITHIN A MATTER OF HOURS IF YOU DO THIS. YOUR OWN ATTORNEY GENERAL CAN DO THIS USING CRIMINAL LAW, NOT CIVIL LAW, AND STOP PLAYING BUTTON BUTTON WITH CIVIL PRETENDERS CALLING THIS THE RIGHT TO DIE. THERE IS NO SUCH RIGHT IN THE CONSTITUTION. THE RIGHT TO LIFE IS. THE RIGHT TO ALLOW MURDER ON BEHALF OF THE STATE IS NOT IN THE CONSTITUTION, AND THE DEATH PENALTY FOR HEINOUS CRIMES IS NOT IN THE CONSTITUTION WITHOUT A FAIR AND IMPARTIAL TRIAL.
NONE OF THESE GUIDELINES HAVE BEEN FOLLOWED FROM DAY ONE. THIS HAS NEVER BEEN A RELIGIOUS CASE. IT IS A PURE, UNADULTERATED CRIMINAL CASE.
CRIMINAL!!!


38 posted on 01/03/2011 11:49:08 AM PST by MestaMachine (islam - Hostis hvmani generis - Enemy of the human race)
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To: Moonman62

Considering that a president can and does order “hits” on individuals — Saddam’s sons and bin Laden, a president can order a life saved.

What “extraordinary measures” did either Bush take?


39 posted on 01/03/2011 11:49:48 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: driftdiver

“Because Terri’s husband requested that action be taken.”

What the hell does that have to do with anything? The judge could have made her a ward of the state & told the bozo husband to go fly a kite. Just because the “husband” asked for the tube feedings to be withheld, dosen’t mean the judge should have done so. The judge should have stood up for what was right. Your argument is ridiculous.


40 posted on 01/03/2011 11:53:47 AM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: surroundedbyblue

“What the hell does that have to do with anything?”

Because under Florida law he had a say in her care. Certainly the judge could have removed her from under his influence but he chose not to do that.

My argument is not ridiculous. I stated a fact that the judge made the decision he did because of the request of a person with the right legal status.

I did NOT say I agree with it. It was murder.


41 posted on 01/03/2011 11:58:39 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

A husband requested his wife be killed by depriving her of water. The Judge wrote the order. The hospice carried it out. The county police forces prevented the woman’s own beloved parents and siblings from providing her life care. At direct threat of force.

In the murder of Terri Schindler hundreds are direct accomplices.

You are right, any argument that says “proper process was followed” is ridiculous. Not only ridiculous — it is evil.


42 posted on 01/03/2011 12:02:08 PM PST by bvw
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To: All

Is he retired because FL has a mandatory judicial retirement of age of 70?

Is he now going to work on the forclosure rocket dockets and kick people out of their homes?


43 posted on 01/03/2011 12:11:57 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: julieee

This guy is piece of rotting excrement who deserves the same “treatment” that he forced upon Terri. Bob


44 posted on 01/03/2011 12:11:57 PM PST by alstewartfan ("Only in the darkest places will she feel at home tonight." from Mixed Blessing by Al Stewart)
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To: DManA

Just like Pontius Pilate.


45 posted on 01/03/2011 12:15:16 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: julieee
Judge Who Ordered Euthanasia ASSASSINATION of Terri Schiavo Retires

There... fixed the title for them.

46 posted on 01/03/2011 12:17:07 PM PST by JDoutrider
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To: bvw; surroundedbyblue
You are right, any argument that says “proper process was followed” is ridiculous. Not only ridiculous — it is evil.

Terri Schiavo was the first person ordered executed by an American judge without the benefit of a trial by jury which is MANDATED in the Constitution before someone can be put to death.

Greer was nothing more than a probate judge, he had no business being involved in the case to begin with. Terri was murdered by judicial order and Greer, Bush and Crist all have her blood on their hands. At one point Bush had dispatched the state police, but he backed down because he didn't want a confrontation.

Congress dropped the ball too, a subpeona was issued for Terri to appear and they did nothing when Greer wouldn't allow it. Congress had every right to order federal marshalls to take Terri into custody to comply with the subpeona.

47 posted on 01/03/2011 12:17:23 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: driftdiver

There IS a higher law, and it is a tragic quirk of law and fate that the remarried monster Michael Schiavo still had power over Terri’s life. For this Hitleresque creep Greer to have allowed the torture killing OVER the return of Terri to her real family is a human atrocity of the first order. Bob


48 posted on 01/03/2011 12:18:16 PM PST by alstewartfan ("Only in the darkest places will she feel at home tonight." from Mixed Blessing by Al Stewart)
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To: Moonman62
"I think they both took extraordinary measures. What else could they have legally done? "

====================================

Used their bully pulpit.

Executive order.

Civil disobedience.

49 posted on 01/03/2011 12:29:23 PM PST by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: srweaver

“If the house called America is to stand, she must return to her foundation, and “we the people” must replace those who constitute the pillars of our government with decent (moral) people who actually believe in and will support and defend God given rights and liberties, NOT erode them through government power grabs.”

Amen, bubba.


50 posted on 01/03/2011 12:31:19 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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