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'Abstinent' teens test positive for STDs
Washington Times ^ | 1/3/2011 | Cheryl Wetzstein

Posted on 01/04/2011 10:14:03 AM PST by markomalley

More than 10 percent of teens who said they were abstinent also tested positive for a sexually transmitted disease, says a study in Pediatrics released Monday — a figure public health advocates say justifies screening all teens for such diseases.

Study author Jessica McDermott Sales, a research assistant professor in the Department of Behavioral Sciences and Health Education at Emory University, said STD screenings should happen, regardless of what they say about their sexual histories.

"These infections can have some pretty major consequences for young people … . It's worth the urine test," she said.

The study was based on data from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health ("Add Health"), which has tracked thousands of teens and young adults for more than a decade.

In Wave 3 of Add Health, about 14,000 youth agreed to provide a urine specimen to check for three STDs — gonorrhea, chlamydia and trichomoniasis.

More than 11,000 of these youth said they had had sexual intercourse in the last 12 months, while the remaining 3,000 youth reported no sexual intercourse during that time.

The STD tests came back positive for 964 youth.

The vast majority of these STD results occurred in youth who said they had had sexual intercourse in the last year.

But 118 youth who denied having sexual intercourse also tested positive for an STD. In fact, 60 of these young people said they had never had sexual intercourse in their lives.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: abstinence; moralabsolutes; stds
Sounds like a few of those teens may have been using the Clinton definition of sex...
1 posted on 01/04/2011 10:14:08 AM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Was this an oral test?


2 posted on 01/04/2011 10:15:39 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Was this an oral test?

In the Clintonian lexicon, that means it wasn't a test after all.

3 posted on 01/04/2011 10:17:49 AM PST by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: markomalley
Almost all STD’s need genital to genital contact to transmit. But while yes, some sort of “gray area” of contact without penetration may have (possibly) been the culprit - I find it FAR MORE LIKELY that they (gasp!) LIED.

People lie about sex.

An amazing revelation to some, to be sure. But there it is.

People lie about sex.

4 posted on 01/04/2011 10:19:57 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: markomalley
Toilet seats.....or Bush.

It just can't be the darling little victim's fault...now can it???

5 posted on 01/04/2011 10:21:34 AM PST by Logic n' Reason ("It's the church I left, not the belief.")
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To: Logic n' Reason

Who knew that teens lied???

This is about what you can expect when parents turn their responsibilities for teaching their children over professors at Emory Univ.


6 posted on 01/04/2011 10:26:05 AM PST by PGR88
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To: markomalley

Many teens today believe that if it is not vaginal intercourse, it isn’t sex. Thank you, Mr. Clinton.


7 posted on 01/04/2011 10:26:43 AM PST by Grunthor (Silence is golden, Duct Tape is silver.)
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To: allmendream
Almost all STD’s need genital to genital contact to transmit.

True but Trichomoniasis can pass woman to woman through anything wet/damp including a toilet seat. I worked in a clinic for a while and there was a 11YO girl that got it from her 15yo hosebag sister.

8 posted on 01/04/2011 10:27:25 AM PST by Malsua
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To: Grunthor

Meaning of is is...


9 posted on 01/04/2011 10:28:40 AM PST by GraceG
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To: markomalley

11,000 out of 14,000 “abstinant” teens had sex in the last 12 months? That’s a strange definition of abstinance.


10 posted on 01/04/2011 10:29:03 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Malsua

Blood to blood contact (body fluid to body fluid) transmits almost any of them also.

But not much blood to blood contact with oral sex, unless you are doing it horribly wrong!

And not much blood to blood contact with vaginal sex either.

That is one of the reasons why AIDS ran rampant in the homosexual community - anal sex is much more likely to involve blood.


11 posted on 01/04/2011 10:33:04 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: markomalley
I think the math is wrong here.

14000 in the study. 11,000 admit to having sex. 3000 claim no sex for previous year.
964 test positive. Of these, 846 admitted to having sex, and 118 with an STD claimed to have avoided all sex.

So, of 3000 people claiming to have been abstinent, 118 had an STD. And the lead is that more than 10% of the teens claiming to be abstinent had an STD??

12 posted on 01/04/2011 10:34:02 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: PGR88
This is about what you can expect when parents turn their responsibilities for teaching their children over professors at Emory Univ.

"It takes a village..." (H. Clintoon)

13 posted on 01/04/2011 10:35:01 AM PST by Logic n' Reason ("It's the church I left, not the belief.")
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To: markomalley

10% of abstinent teens, huh? Yeah, and sure that shows abstinence doesn’t work. /S


14 posted on 01/04/2011 10:40:43 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: ozzymandus
11,000 out of 14,000 “abstinant” teens had sex in the last 12 months?

Let's try again with some emphasis.

In Wave 3 of Add Health, about 14,000 youth agreed to provide a urine specimen to check for three STDs — gonorrhea, chlamydia and trichomoniasis.

More than 11,000 of these youth said they had had sexual intercourse in the last 12 months, while the remaining 3,000 youth reported no sexual intercourse during that time.


15 posted on 01/04/2011 10:41:19 AM PST by VRWCmember (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: Logic n' Reason

or from a Seinfield episode, “My boyfriend told me I got VD from the tractor.”


16 posted on 01/04/2011 10:43:14 AM PST by scbison
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To: markomalley

and you call that The Tractor Story??


17 posted on 01/04/2011 10:43:43 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: markomalley

Two things to consider

First:

Up to 60% of all US teens have HPV so if 10% of Teens who tout abstinence do not then there is something significant.

Of course not all teens who claim abstinence follow through but if they are doing 50% better than teens who do that that proves ‘they are not all going to do it anyway’

Second:

As someone else pointed out schools and media have tried to redefine ‘sex’ by limiting it to the strictly penetrative test.

In fact Sex is so much more and some might think ‘this is not really sex’...


18 posted on 01/04/2011 10:44:19 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: markomalley

Reading the article, it says:
* The study included about 3000 people who said they had been abstinent within the past year.
* Of those who said they had been abstinent for the past year, 118 of the participants tested positive.

That seems closer to 4% than 10%.


19 posted on 01/04/2011 10:51:04 AM PST by CaptainMorgantown
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To: ozzymandus

Under Bubba’s definition, they puffed but did not inhale. They just told their parents they were abstinant. The problem with many of today’s youth and parents are that they are ‘friends’ rather than having a true parent/child relationship. My upbringing was strict, but I was taught the limits and the difference between right and wrong. How we felt was really never an issue. When my parents made a ruling it was followed or punishments were doled out. Spankings were not uncommon, but during later years taking away ‘currency’ was very effective. It was up to my parents to decide what the currency was. Spending time with friends, phone time, using the car, etc were all priveleges that could be taken away very easily. The problem with kids these days is that their parents are too soft and allow the children to play one parent against the other. Society has shifted from necessities and luxuries to ‘I want it, so I have to have it’. Earning money and saving it for something you wanted or needed is a concept that is lost on society today. They do not understand what real hardship is.


20 posted on 01/04/2011 10:53:48 AM PST by toolman1401
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To: markomalley

People lying about sex, and teenagers yet! Teenagers never lie about anything.


21 posted on 01/04/2011 11:03:03 AM PST by 3niner (When Obama succeeds, America fails.)
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To: CaptainMorgantown; VRWCmember; ClearCase_guy
here is the study. And, yes, the WaTimes journalist did not word it correctly in the reporting of the story. The original verbiage was as follows:

There were 6636 male participants (weighted percent: 50.9) and 7376 female participants (weighted percent: 49.1). Sixty-seven percent of the sample self-described as white (7497 [weighted percent: 67.1]) and 16.4% self-identified as black (3097 [weighted percent: 16.4]). There were 2291 Hispanics (weighted percent: 11.8), 956 Asians (weighted percent: 3.7), and 171 in all other self-described racial/ethnic categories (weighted percent: 1.0). The mean age of participants in the sample was 21.9 years (SD: 1.8 years), and 12 522 selfreported that they had graduated high school or received a general equivalency degree (weighted percent: 88.2). Overall, 11 039 (weighted percent: 79.7) reported having penile/vaginal sex with at least 1 partner in the previous 12 months. Of all wave 3 participants who provided a urine sample for STD screening, 964 (weighted percent: 6.0) tested STD-positive for at least 1 of the 3 assessed STDs. Of the STDpositive participants, 838 (weighted percent: 89.5) reported sex with at least 1 partner in the previous 12 months, 118 (weighted percent: 10.5) reported abstaining from sexual activity during the previous 12 months before assessment, and 60 of the latter participants (weighted percent: 5.9) reported never having penile/vaginal sex in their lifetime. Thus, 118 participants (more than 10% of the 964 participants who tested positive for an STD) demonstrated a discrepancy in their STD test results and self-report of recent sexual activity.

So the short version should have said 10.5% of study participants who tested positive for an STD claimed to have no sex in the previous year and 5.9% claimed to have never had sex in their lives.

22 posted on 01/04/2011 11:07:28 AM PST by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: markomalley
Right up there with the I Didnt Know I Was Pregnant crowd.
23 posted on 01/04/2011 11:15:49 AM PST by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: markomalley

Teens lie. WOW! I stand amazed, I tell you, amazed!


24 posted on 01/04/2011 11:23:37 AM PST by vpintheak (Democrats: Robbing humans of their dignity 1 law at a time)
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To: markomalley
In this sick strange world where people stray freely into the "gray" areas and think they aren't crossing lines, this actually doesn't come as a surprise.

In the minds of these teens, if there isn't penetration then they are still being "abstinent" regardless of whether or not there is physical contact of the genitalia.

25 posted on 01/04/2011 11:32:45 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: markomalley
More than 10 percent of teens who said they were abstinent also tested positive for a sexually transmitted disease, says a study in Pediatrics released Monday — a figure public health advocates say justifies screening all teens for such diseases.

Study author Jessica McDermott Sales, a research assistant professor in the Department of Behavioral Sciences and Health Education at Emory University, said STD screenings should happen, regardless of what they say about their sexual histories.

Another study?

Conclusion -somebody wants something.

What do they want? How about mandatory testing of all (teens) what ages exactly -they all lie -lets just say all children. MANDATORY testing for STD's regardless, the parents wishes.

Where will this happen? But of course, the community 'health clinics' -planned parenthood (abortions r us)...

What good is testing without treatment and prevention and education? OH but of course...

In my opinion, this is buy another camel's nose attempting to get into the tent...

26 posted on 01/04/2011 11:40:02 AM PST by DBeers (┬ć)
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To: markomalley
So, after doing some basic math on the numbers from the article, 7.69% of those who admit to having sex tested positive for STDs while only 3.93% of those who claimed to be abstinent tested positive for STDs.

Stated differently, teens who practice or even claim to practice abstinence are 1/2 as likely to catch STDS.

27 posted on 01/04/2011 11:40:31 AM PST by kennedy (I am a Kennedy. Where do I go to claim my Senate seat?)
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To: markomalley

A high number of abstinent adults also test positive for pregnancy in the ER. The rule is you can’t trust people to answer questions about sex truthfully.


28 posted on 01/04/2011 11:52:19 AM PST by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: kennedy

Or that “abstinent” girls may still benefit from Gardisil.


29 posted on 01/04/2011 11:55:17 AM PST by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: markomalley

“More than 10 percent of teens who said they were abstinent also tested positive for a sexually transmitted disease, says a study in Pediatrics released Monday — a figure public health advocates say justifies screening all teens for such diseases.”

Which means about 90% - the vast majority - did not, a figure that shows there is little justification for a broad policy initiative to help ameliorate self-inflicted conditions of small minority.


30 posted on 01/04/2011 11:56:38 AM PST by Wuli
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To: CaptainMorgantown

“That seems closer to 4% than 10%.”

They became pediatricians because they didn’t need higher math skills like internists.


31 posted on 01/04/2011 12:03:55 PM PST by A Strict Constructionist (Oligarchy...never vote for the Ivy League candidate.)
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To: N3WBI3
Up to 60% of all US teens have HPV

BS. 24% of 14-19 year olds as reported in Dunne EF, Unger ER, Sternberg M (2007). "Prevalence of HPV infection among females in the United States". JAMA 297 (8): 813–9.

32 posted on 01/04/2011 12:18:32 PM PST by CholeraJoe (Eat moer DUCK! War Eagle!!!!)
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To: Wuli
Which means about 90% - the vast majority - did not, a figure that shows there is little justification for a broad policy initiative to help ameliorate self-inflicted conditions of small minority.

Until those 10% start spreading the STDs around town.

33 posted on 01/04/2011 1:02:07 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

The immaculate infection...


34 posted on 01/04/2011 7:58:26 PM PST by Casual
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To: CholeraJoe

“”Prevalence of HPV infection among females in the United States”

46% of women under 25 http://books.google.com/books?id=Elx37xzO0bsC&pg=PA992&lpg=PA992&dq=hpv+infection+rates+united+states+teenagers+precent&source=bl&ots=Sm5804LR6t&sig=BSLMZxBFTfRa5q1LKKv49hibo84&hl=en&ei=CxUkTemaJMSknQfH4aCUAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CEQQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q&f=false


35 posted on 01/04/2011 10:53:30 PM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: N3WBI3

Your cite is from 2000. Mine is from 2007, therefore more current. The primary sources in both are the CDC. Thanks.


36 posted on 01/05/2011 2:32:48 AM PST by CholeraJoe (Eat moer DUCK! War Eagle!!!!)
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To: CholeraJoe

Your stat only talks about grils and not girls and boys...


37 posted on 01/05/2011 10:54:25 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: N3WBI3

I was waiting for that lame argument. Even if precisely the same number of boys are afflicted as girls, the percentage would be the same. Numerator increases, denominator increases, fraction stays the same.


38 posted on 01/05/2011 11:39:36 AM PST by CholeraJoe (Eat moer DUCK! War Eagle!!!!)
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To: CholeraJoe

But what if more boys are effected than girls...

There are lies, damn lies and stats! so asking what is this number, what does it mean and how did you get it is only ‘lame’ when you have weak or incomplete numbers..


39 posted on 01/05/2011 12:05:12 PM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: CholeraJoe

But the best part is that you are so busy trying to defend 60 or 20 or 40 that you ignore the point... Chasing your tail like a confused pup..

If a higher percent of teens who did not promise abstinence have STD’s than the number of teens who do promise abstinence that means to some degree abstinence pledges work...

The rest is figuring out just how much they work..

Or we can have it your way and just assume the little buggers are so hopped up on hormones they would screw anything that walks.. Hand out condoms, give them the nod and wink about making sex meaningful and waiting, and shooting them full of untested vaccines for diseases that everyone insisted were basically harmless (until we had a vaccine)..


40 posted on 01/05/2011 12:09:21 PM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: allmendream
"I find it FAR MORE LIKELY that they (gasp!) LIED."

If you read the article, the parameter set to define "abstinent" was no sex in the last year. I find it just as plausible that they might have contracted their STD prior to that window.

41 posted on 01/05/2011 12:14:40 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

True enough. It always helps when you look at what the samples actually ARE, not what they are purported to be.

But most teenagers who have not had sex within the last year were hardly ‘abstaining’. If they were then every day of my life I am ‘abstaining’ from having sex with all the hot actresses in L.A..


42 posted on 01/05/2011 12:21:31 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

“Until those 10% start spreading the STDs around town.”

And whose fault would that be???

“The public’s” because they didn’t pass a stupid law making it mandatory that EVERY teen get regular blood tests for STDs???

Or stupid people who have unprotected sexual intercourse with persons with whom they have no assurance that such persons have not been sexually active with third parties??

All laws intended to make promiscuity “safer” are actually laws to make promiscuity easier; as if by escaping “physical health” problems that can arise from promiscuity that EVERYTHING ELSE is thus “O.K.”; when, in fact, promiscuity, with or without physical health consequences, is, by its nature, fraught with many other risks of adverse consequences to the long term health and happiness of the individual; whether or not any of those consequences are voiced as a religious issue of “sin”.

The major focus on merely successfully “avoiding STDs”, through legislation to require STD blood tests, is a diversion from the wholesale consequences of promiscuity, and IS intended to simply remove one more potential obstacle to seemingly “successful” promiscuity.

Better that people actually fear EVERY consequence of promiscuity and thereby maybe avoid being promiscuous more often than not - which DOES seem to be the case with the overwhelming majority - 90% - among those that profess some adherence to abstinence. If EVERYONE took THEIR position, maybe the 90% figure would be found among the population as a whole, and that in itself would be a major accomplishment.

In the end, YOU are responsible for knowing what you need to protect your health from consequences of your intimate human relationships and no law can absolutely insure otherwise, unless your own Liberty is the victim of the law as well.


43 posted on 01/07/2011 8:34:32 AM PST by Wuli
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