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Faces of immigration: Man can't compete with illegal workers
Oarange County Register ^ | 1/4/10 | CINDY CARCAMO

Posted on 01/04/2011 2:21:22 PM PST by SmithL

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To: ViLaLuz
Not only is the quality of illegals work often inferior, it is hard to get them to warranty the work if it is defective.

It is fundamentally unfair the Americans in California who play by the rules have to comply with all of the regulatory and tax burdens California imposes on them while the illegals do not have comply because they work outside the system

41 posted on 01/04/2011 3:49:24 PM PST by rdcbn
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To: chittlin

Years ago, got a call to fix the powder room floor in a 300 grand house in Brecksville, Ohio. They had hired a couple of mezzicans to remove the lino tile, and install slate. They pulled the commode, pulled up the 1/8” thick lino, and put down the 1/2”+ slate. Looked great. But,,, They reinstalled the cr@pper with the old wax seal, leaving an almost 1/2” gap. Every time the pot was flushed, water, and sewerage, leaked into the plywood floor. The plywood floor turned into a black mold filled, mush. I cut out the floor, and had to call a specialist contractor to get rid of the mold. I then installed new plywood, re-tiled the floor and used the correct wax seal. Total cost to fix the thing was about 5 grand. They paid the mezzicans about 4 hundred bucks. Bwaaaa! They learned their lesson!


42 posted on 01/04/2011 4:03:43 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: wac3rd

“If there were no welfare state”

If there were no welfare state, the illegals wouldn’t be here, because they wouldn’t be able to afford to feed their families on what they make.


44 posted on 01/04/2011 4:36:36 PM PST by rickb308 (Nothing good ever came from someone yelling Allah Snackbar)
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To: skeeter

You ALMOST put the sarc tag too far down. ;-)
I almost missed it.


45 posted on 01/04/2011 4:40:09 PM PST by rickb308 (Nothing good ever came from someone yelling Allah Snackbar)
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To: skeeter
How do you even respond to a question like that, when every other sovereign body of people in the history of mankind has thought it important to control(read:restrict) the flow of humanity over their borders?

You can't. It's clear he is a FROBL. My guess is that his ancestors came here illegally or he makes big bucks off of illegal labor.

46 posted on 01/04/2011 5:01:29 PM PST by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: Windflier

He was being sarcastic.


47 posted on 01/04/2011 5:09:16 PM PST by mowowie
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To: Emmett McCarthy
And they do crappy work. I’ve seen it and fixed it.

Every one knows that, Emmett. But they work so cheaply the GC can afford to do it over ... and over ... until they learn how. As long as they don't ruin the material, the GC still makes out like a bandit. It's the MDOF The Mexican Do-Over Factor.

The overall quality goes slowly lower. A look at any corner in any building in Mexico will show you where this is going.

48 posted on 01/04/2011 5:38:35 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (A pity Pinochet is still dead. He would have been ideal for 2012 ... or sooner.)
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To: r9etb

Sad-sack liberals are the propgandists, yes. If you want to delve into it, yes I blame every single bastard that hires illegals. In a sane Country we would heavily fine those who employ illegal aliens. Companies that hire them should be fined huge amounts and put on probation. Yes, every one who employs illegal aliens is part of the problem. Apathy is a huge part of the problem as well.
Make all the bastards pay who continue to perpetuate this problem.


49 posted on 01/04/2011 5:50:09 PM PST by vpintheak (Democrats: Robbing humans of their dignity 1 law at a time)
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To: raybbr
I'm guessing your ancestors were border jumpers hence the approval for the current crop of invaders.

Some of them did just that ... in the 1840s.

Most of them were here well before 1700, though. Sorry to disappoint you.

50 posted on 01/04/2011 6:32:14 PM PST by r9etb
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To: SmithL
I feel bad for contractos in general, but this guy is too proud to work.
The bids would come down to $100 a day – lower than what he started out making decades ago. He was lucky to get a job a week. The last straw came when a shop owner Powelson knew well told him he may have work for him – fixing a botched flooring job one of Powelson's competitors did.

"I wouldn't do it," he said, saying that job added insult to injury.

Powelson said he's confronted contractors and shop owners he has relationships with and who now rely solely on people who are working in the country illegally.

51 posted on 01/04/2011 9:24:13 PM PST by rmlew (You want change? Vote for the most conservative electable in your state or district.)
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To: Windflier

Does no one here get SARCASM anymore?


52 posted on 01/04/2011 9:34:45 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Yehuda

You got it, Yehuda.

For years I maintained a 2 million dollar liability policy, paid worker’s comp, payroll taxes, and kept my California contractor’s license in force. I only hired AMERICAN workers, and trained them to the exacting standards of my trade. I paid my guys well, too.

Over time, our closing ratio dropped more and more, until we got to a point where the legal and ethical business model no longer worked.

Instead of going to the dark side, like so many of our competitors did, we simply failed. I’m now back to being one guy in a truck. I may be self-employed, but I can hardly call what I have, a business any more. It barely even qualifies as a job these days.


53 posted on 01/04/2011 10:51:42 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: mowowie
He was being sarcastic.

Oh? Well that just makes me feel all warm and fuzzy now.

Tell my kids who now live in near-poverty that he was only joking.

54 posted on 01/04/2011 10:53:35 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Republic of Texas
Does no one here get SARCASM anymore?

Oh, I get sarcasm, alright. I just don't appreciate it much when we're talking about the greatest loss of my entire life.

Forgive me if this isn't a laughing matter to me and my family.

55 posted on 01/04/2011 11:07:26 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Are you blind? He was TAKING YOUR SIDE BY BEING SARCASTIC!


56 posted on 01/05/2011 5:02:45 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: SmithL; calcowgirl

“Jobs Americans Won’t Do Anymore” - G.W. Bush

If the fool had done his job and deported illegals instead of pushing for amnesty then southern California could have begun the long process of freeing itself from the blight of illegals. Instead we now have Obama building on Bush’s vile border policy.


57 posted on 01/05/2011 8:57:31 AM PST by Pelham (Islam, the mortal enemy of the free world)
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To: r9etb

“The main reason the illegals come here in the first place, is because those same Americans pay them to come here.”

Having lived in southern California since the 1960s I’ve met plenty of ‘Americans’ who like to hire illegals. A lot of them have been recent legal immigrants to America. They have little or no concern about what hiring illegals does to the country. They are simply looking to hire the cheapest labor possible, just like they did back in their home country.


58 posted on 01/05/2011 9:08:25 AM PST by Pelham (Islam, the mortal enemy of the free world)
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To: rickb308

“If there were no welfare state, the illegals wouldn’t be here, because they wouldn’t be able to afford to feed their families on what they make.”

That’s simply not true. They often pile 2 or 3 families into one house to save money. Or they leave the family back in Mexico while they work up here.


59 posted on 01/05/2011 9:17:45 AM PST by Pelham (Islam, the mortal enemy of the free world)
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To: wac3rd
"If there were no welfare state, these “jobs Americans won’t do” would be filled......."

If I understand you correctly, slave wages are fine as long as they're paid to legal slaves. If you kicked every last American off the public dole, we'd STILL have an invasion from south of the border, they'd just accept a lower wage than the former welfare recipient.

Illegals moving up the employment chain is only one of the problems from Illegal Immigration. Too bad we didn't do something about it 20 years ago.

60 posted on 01/05/2011 10:08:09 AM PST by moehoward
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